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@Runey wtf, are you still awake?
If I were honest about my main reason behind disliking our first interaction with cornwall, it would be because that is our first true date like event with Lin and it ends not with Lin playing around in her new dress, not watching the sunset or just taking a stroll in the park and talking, no it ends with a public fucking contest when some random guy challenges you. Then her story line devolves from there Lin gets less and less "innocent" (if thats the correct descriptor??) and then we end up with orgies ... all to "save" the elves etc, maybe (most likely) it's because I tend to mostly play vns of the moe dating sim style but I just don't like the turn Lin's route has taken.
That's exactly what I'm saiying. I wouldn't even complain if it wasn't the purest, most innocent girl in the game that has to take this route. If it was someone else like ashley or maria there wouldn't be any problem for me and it would even fit to them. But I know as much as anybody else that Lin is the only "real" slave at that moment and it wouldn't make sense with anybody else.
BUT!
If you want to change the event or give an alternative route @Runey , why don't make it possible to go with Jin instead? (I still don't have played the beta, so I don't know how you integrated her, but this is the first thing that came to my mind)
 

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YAAAWN... good morning^^
@Runey wtf, are you still awake?

That's exactly what I'm saiying. I wouldn't even complain if it wasn't the purest, most innocent girl in the game that has to take this route. If it was someone else like ashley or maria there wouldn't be any problem for me and it would even fit to them. But I know as much as anybody else that Lin is the only "real" slave at that moment and it wouldn't make sense with anybody else.
BUT!
If you want to change the event or give an alternative route @Runey , why don't make it possible to go with Jin instead? (I still don't have played the beta, so I don't know how you integrated her, but this is the first thing that came to my mind)
Haha yeah, I'm still awake. About to go to bed.

I don't think a Jin route would be possible.

As someone who had mixed feelings on the Cornwall stuff:

Part of it's the fact that when I play a game focused on harem, with no other males and a sex-rompy vibe (Although that feels like a disservice to the game), I kinda go into it thinking, "Alright, every girl I see that isn't taken is going to be in the harem." With Sylvia introduced before Cornwall, I assumed she'd be in the hotel and was looking forward to watching some of the hot air get taken out of her, much like Felicty and Autumn. I'm not the sort to conflate "You don't get every girl you set eyes on for your own" with NTR, but I got my hopes up and the second Cornwall event, at the time, dashed them. Now that we have a chance to take her off Cornwall's hands, this doesn't sting as much, but it did cause quite a few sighs at the time.
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Thank you for that feedback!

Firstly, I would like to say that Side Characters like Lucy, Ellen, Moon, Sylvia, etc are not apart of the Harem. At least, not like the Main Characters are. In games, I don't like it when you can't have fun with every girl you see, so I want to make that a feature in this game. However, they likely wont have a comprehensive story like the main girls, and wont receive content every update.

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When you say "very little character development" I'm not exactly sure how you mean. That event's purpose was to change Cornwall's mind and introduce some new Elves.

And yeah, I totally get what you mean by not wanting to see others having sex.

I hope this answers some of your quests, I'm really tired at the moment and have had a rough day.
 

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As someone who had mixed feelings on the Cornwall stuff:

Part of it's the fact that when I play a game focused on harem, with no other males and a sex-rompy vibe (Although that feels like a disservice to the game), I kinda go into it thinking, "Alright, every girl I see that isn't taken is going to be in the harem." With Sylvia introduced before Cornwall, I assumed she'd be in the hotel and was looking forward to watching some of the hot air get taken out of her, much like Felicty and Autumn. I'm not the sort to conflate "You don't get every girl you set eyes on for your own" with NTR, but I got my hopes up and the second Cornwall event, at the time, dashed them. Now that we have a chance to take her off Cornwall's hands, this doesn't sting as much, but it did cause quite a few sighs at the time.
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I think you should edit your post and put most of it behind a spoiler tag.
 
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YAAAWN... good morning^^
@Runey wtf, are you still awake?

That's exactly what I'm saiying. I wouldn't even complain if it wasn't the purest, most innocent girl in the game that has to take this route. If it was someone else like ashley or maria there wouldn't be any problem for me and it would even fit to them. But I know as much as anybody else that Lin is the only "real" slave at that moment and it wouldn't make sense with anybody else.
BUT!
If you want to change the event or give an alternative route @Runey , why don't make it possible to go with Jin instead? (I still don't have played the beta, so I don't know how you integrated her, but this is the first thing that came to my mind)
I would be happy to just walk away from corwalls challenge and continue the date with Lin, the first event (day out with Lin) and do next challenge with Jin. That would solve my issues with the route.
 

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I would be happy to just walk away from corwalls challenge and continue the date with Lin, the first event (day out with Lin) and do next challenge with Jin. That would solve my issues with the route.
punching him in the face first and then walk away would be my first choice but yeah, your option would work too :LOL:
 

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I had a weird glitch/bug during the android event where she falls into the hot spring, Kali comes to looks after her, says about staying with her, MC goes to buy water sealant, goes to next day, but then shows the past event where android is in city and going shopping instead of her recovering and being water sealed
 

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I would personally hate this.

Runey already said that Maria has stopped streaming.

Corruption only to the point of having a kinky girlfriend open type relationship (BDSM, public sex, exhibitionism, poly, etc.).

I wouldn't be opposed to purchasing a stripping pole for the bar and have the girls with high exhibition do strip teases for money. That would be as far as I'd go...

Too many players when they hear the word "harem" automatically assume slavery. None of the girls are trained to this point and I'm very happy about that. Even the MC treats Lin and Android like family and not like a slave.

There are several hardcore slave training games on this site for players who want it.
which ones are you talking about?
 

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Thank you for that feedback!

Firstly, I would like to say that Side Characters like Lucy, Ellen, Moon, Sylvia, etc are not apart of the Harem. At least, not like the Main Characters are. In games, I don't like it when you can't have fun with every girl you see, so I want to make that a feature in this game. However, they likely wont have a comprehensive story like the main girls, and wont receive content every update.

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When you say "very little character development" I'm not exactly sure how you mean. That event's purpose was to change Cornwall's mind and introduce some new Elves.

And yeah, I totally get what you mean by not wanting to see others having sex.

I hope this answers some of your quests, I'm really tired at the moment and have had a rough day.
Ah, sorry, put it in spoiler tag now.

Yeah, the side character treatment makes sense, and it's another reason I and possibly others didn't comment much on that before. Just, before one realizes a character's a side character, it's possible to get one's hopes up. XD It's just a risk of the design.

As to the rest, the best way I can say it is...
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Hope tomorrow (Today?) is better, and just to make clear, absolutely love the game!
 

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I did the Pub upgrades in the afternoon and when I clicked on Mixology training it said I needed to be in the morning, but the option never reappeared in the morning. Also, while Maria is supposed to work in the Pub she never appears as a worker there.
 

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I did the Pub upgrades in the afternoon and when I clicked on Mixology training it said I needed to be in the morning, but the option never reappeared in the morning. Also, while Maria is supposed to work in the Pub she never appears as a worker there.
Are you playing the leaked or the official version? Are you playing from an old save or from scratch?

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Wednesday will become a delightful day with 3-4 new Elves :D
 

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beta 3? will there be a final version after a while or the beta is the one for this month?
 

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beta 3? will there be a final version after a while or the beta is the one for this month?
There will be a full release sometime this month. Maybe next week a v0.6 pre-release (a completed version).
 
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He is not a hypocrite, and he does decide who gets to keep Elves. He has put it into law that you can not abuse a slave, that was his decision. So if you abuse a slave, he/his program takes that Elf away.

To abuse an Elf, one or more of the following must be true. You have beaten her, caused her intentional pain (emotional or physical), or have forced yourself on her.
Well, that part was based on people saying that he obviously forced himself on his slave during the event. If it just looked like it, ignore that part.
That being said, while I'm not a huge fan of it happening, I recognize that the MC is technically his own person. I can try to self-insert, but he's his own defined character in some senses, more than Link I suppose in LoZ. Given this and the fact that it means Lin has a chance to improve her sister's life, I think that's how I really was able to get past it without too much thinking; its for Lin's good, and I feel like she verbalizes her desire to win more than some people are really recalling / letting on.
If I wanted to, I could make a very long list of things I would have done differently to him. I won't, of course, because most of them are minor things that don't really matter. But when something is bad enough, it demands mention. And that Lin says she wants to doesn't really make much of a difference; we don't get the option to even try to talk her out of it.
People aren't going to hurt an Elf for disobeying, but they can make them do things they don't like, like cleaning the toilets and such.
I don't really understand that; if you can't hurt an elf for disobeying, how do you make them do anything?
I didn't mean to attack you. Just as you, I was stating my opinion. I admit that little bit was probably unnecessary. I just felt like saying it, because I had feeling that the negative input on the events shifted from discussion to something like "I don't like the event and it's unacceptable that it's ingame".
At least for me, I don't like the event but it's not unacceptable that it's in the game; it's unacceptable that you have no choice. I don't think I've seen anyone demanding that the event be stripped from the game entirely; we'd just like to see a different option.
A discussion about an alternative route is interesting, though. I don't know the least bit about storytelling, so my input on this might be limited, too. But any input could help Runey in creating an acceptable alternative route.
I would love to see an alternative route, but it's hard to suggest anything without having seen the 0.6 scene that depends upon this.
From what I've gathered the people who have voiced their concerns about the event don't like
1) Submitting to Cornwall by accepting his challenges
2.)The feeling of degrading Lin (Lin stating that she wants it doesn't matter)
Add "3: it's also degrading to the player, being forced to fuck for his amusement". Even if you like the normal exhibitionism scenes, they are very different because nobody is being forced to do anything; the MC suggests "Wouldn't it be hot to get your tits out in front of everyone" or whatever, and the girl says "Mmm, yes, let's try that", if not explicitly then implicitly. They can also say "no", and the MC accepts that.
I would classify this as a "hardcore" path. The alternative would have to be something more romantic. I haven't played the current beta, so I don't get the whole picture. There is basically a follow up on the orgy if I caught that correctly. Either both paths split only for a few events and then end up at the same spot, maybe with different dialogue or, but that would probably require more work, both paths stay separate and basically offer a romantic and a hardcore style for Lins story.
I should download the beta and increment Lin's friendship using the console, to see what the event is about. I'm loath to even do that, but if there's a prospect of getting a route that avoids him, it would be worth it. I just have to make sure to keep my save from before the letter in a safe place.
That event's purpose was to change Cornwall's mind and introduce some new Elves.
The "changing his mind" purpose is problematic, because you've indicated that it's possible to lose the contest and not change his mind; if the story works with you failing to change his mind by losing, surely it should work with you failing to change his mind by not engaging.
For introducing the elves, I'll have to get back after inspecting the 0.6 event, but surely a different way of introducing them could be contrived? Another day out with Lin, for example, where you run into Sylvia again and she gets to see you and Lin in a different context?
I hope this answers some of your quests, I'm really tired at the moment and have had a rough day.
I hope you feel better tomorrow and that whatever it is works out OK for you.
 

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I'd like Autumn to initially become corrupted by someone she tries to help become a "Godly and good" person.....Jin or Maria perhaps. :D
 

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Honestly the only obummer for me in Cornwall event was
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I see a lot of love to Lin here, but for me she doesn't really stand out (though her blowjobs are great). She doesn't have any particular trait (aside being faithful but honestly for that personal whorehouse it doesn't really matter)
 
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