You talking about Teacher's Pets? The latest versions have been sanitised to take out the Pill as it goes against Patreon guidelines.
Patreon Is Hardening Their 'Adult Content' Guidelines. Discussion Thread
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What happened to the Patreon alternatives? Patreon started with their witch hunt in October last year and so far no viable alternative has come up yet. Seriously disappointing.
Sponsorion is on its way, there's a post in the patreon alternatives thread about it:
They are expecting to be able to launch this spring. There is a lot of work that goes into creating a site that can support an audience and follows all the laws regarding the content. They have got a payment provider and a plan. They seem to be doing what is necessary to start up. Now they just need to launch and attract an audience.
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For alternative to exists it requires whole community move out of patreon. It might take many years. I suspect it's possible only if some decent game will be created on such site to bring attention. In my opinion we're at the point in which there is Patreon or nothing as no one is gonna risk their money. We already had times when there was no platform and Patreon hunt doesn't mean those times won't return.
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Has anyone tried OnlyFans. It's popular with camwhores and it seems to not care too much about content. It requires a picture ID for creators though.
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The response from the Sponsorion team seems hopeful, I will definitely be keeping a lookout for them this spring. It seems as though they have a good idea of the different avenues to look into.
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I haven't read the full thread but I mostly guess its negative comments over Patreon rules regarding adult content and specifically incest.
don't think I commented on this thread before hand, apologize if I have, can't remember every post I made on here.
Anyway, am actually one who stands up and applauds Patreon for the rule change, I really don't understand why there is such confusion or anger towards Patreon on this.
Incest is and always been frowned upon, why is it such a surprise that games with it would be removed once Patreon discovered them?
From a developers stand point, Patreon is actually doing them a favor. Making games without incest is actually going reach a much larger player market, as "you" may be OK with incest but there will always be more people that won't even try a game that promotes it has incest.
Therefore a developers potential market would be much larger without incest in the game, that is just the simple truth.
why is that so hard for people to understand?
don't think I commented on this thread before hand, apologize if I have, can't remember every post I made on here.
Anyway, am actually one who stands up and applauds Patreon for the rule change, I really don't understand why there is such confusion or anger towards Patreon on this.
Incest is and always been frowned upon, why is it such a surprise that games with it would be removed once Patreon discovered them?
From a developers stand point, Patreon is actually doing them a favor. Making games without incest is actually going reach a much larger player market, as "you" may be OK with incest but there will always be more people that won't even try a game that promotes it has incest.
Therefore a developers potential market would be much larger without incest in the game, that is just the simple truth.
why is that so hard for people to understand?
Exactly! There were so many creators releasing games with the same story and type of game. Maybe this will make them branch out and try making new games with new ideas. No major company would want to have taboo content on their site as it leads to bad publicity.
Ooops, Patreon agents have discovered F95. Two "Patreon is cool, devs are pervs" messages in a row.
Big brother was making 25 thousand dollars a month. Summertime Saga is making 25 thousand dollars a month. Know what both those games have in common? Incest. Incest does sell to a very large audience. Just you not liking it doesn't mean no one does. Its a taboo, therefore its inherently sexier than a story about a random guy and girl in a relationship.
And by the way, you should never applaud censorship. Because if they can censor incest, they can censor all porn. And its just a matter of time. They made a fellow dev take down his game because his petite character looked to young to them. Doesn't matter that the porn industry has plenty of petite 20 somethings posing as teens so that they can market the Teen demographic as long as possible.
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OnlyFans is for picture/video content, hence why it is popular with camwhores, and why they require a photo ID to create an account. I somehow doubt they'd know how to deal with game development content, or written material. They're basically facebook for people wanting to share nude pics of themselves.
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...You do realize what the largest subgenre in porn has been for the past few years right... and literally every studio has gone into now...right?
psst...its roleplay that starts with I and ends with T
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Well, for one, they're yanking the rug out from under the feet of some people who depended on Patreon for their income.
Two, there are a lot of people who like those games and creators, so there's a lot of hate for anyone who harms either of those.
Three, if numerous games were fine making money on Patreon for years, why go after them now? No laws have changed.
Four, a lot of people see this as completely pointless censorship and/or puritanism.
No, stories about incest haven't always been frowned upon. Hell, even the Bible has
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getting him drunk and having sex with him until they're pregnant.Furthermore, stories of incest are fairly popular. The third through sixth
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were "milf", "step mom", "step sister", and "mom", in that order. Incest and near-incest is quite popular.No, depriving people of their income, and depriving many people of the content they want is not doing anyone a favor.
I don't think you understand how markets work. If the market is saturated with one kind of content, producing a different kind of content which is under-supported is actually a great way to make a profit. If you want to make money selling water, for example, you don't sell water in a place with plentiful and cheap supplies of water, you sell it in a desert. The incest market has a high demand and a low supply, meaning you're doing them the opposite of a favor by trying to get them out of that market.
Also, some games can't be changed to not have incest, as that's part of the premise of the game. This means throwing months or years of work down the drain to write vanilla stories in an over-saturated market, hoping to do as well as you were doing before. That's pretty unlikely.
Furthermore, some people aren't interested writing for that larger market, they want to write what they like. Why should they be punished for that?
You may not like fictional incest yourself, but you shouldn't be happy that those who do like it are being deprived of it for no particularly good reason. It's not like the content was harming anyone.
Honestly, I have to ask why you'd "applaud" an act that takes away the things other people like for no good reason, harming the creators and patrons alike in the process? It smacks of a lack of empathy, at the very least.
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Well, 25k per month is a silly number for a real developer so that's not really a point. Our market is nothing we can be proud of. Incest doesn't sell to a mainstream audience at all but it sells well (as many other tabbos) to a sexually frustrated perverts on the internet and that's enough to go for it. Everything else is true. I can't stand incest for various reasons but banning it won't do anything good for anyone. More vanilla stories won't bring that much of a mainstream attention as mainstream rarely go for anything more than typical porn. Other fetishes might be banned as well for similiar reasons and nothing good will come out of it. Japanese market is the only real, huge market on this planet and even tho it has its fair share of vanilla titles, heavy fetishes (especially rape and loli) are strongly present.
I disagree. It wasn't tolarated by almost every culture and religion since the beginning of our race. Except for some cultural popularity amongst nobility at some point it wasn't really popular at any time. You just used depiction of sin as an argument that incest was ok in Bible.
People like what they like and we all have our fair share of weird fetishes. Incest ban is undestandable but it's nothing good for us, even if we don't like it.
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Funny, because over the last decade we've seen a huge jump in the production of incest related roleplay content in mainstream porn. Funny, because the most popular show on television features not one, not two, not 3, but dozens and dozens more sexual relationships between family members. If anything, you're the one who's not mainstream anymore.
I don't know if you meant to say it that way, but seriously, find a better way to write, because this is nothing short of insulting.
The pills in this context were date rape drugs...