VN HTML Ren'Py Completed Coming to Grips with Christine [Ep. 1-5] [Tora Productions]

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botc76

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Well, patreon or not these short chapters are stupid. It's hardly worth playing at all.
Will wait until we've got something substantial.
 

metalbeard

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Mortze said it takes him hours to render a high res image and he doesn't have that sort of time or computer power. So, for the sake of releasing the game in a reasonable time period, he has to compromise on image quality. Unlike some of other developers, they don't use same background for multiple images. Each of their images have different back & foreground.

I too wanted him to make the game with high res images but can't argue with his logic. Their last game had more than 1800 unique images and it took about 6 months to render them all. If they render high quality images, then the game will take a lot more time.
Ah, well if he doesn't have the hardware to shorten those render times, I can understand the grainy renders - however shouldn't they invest in hardware, kinda like investing back in the business.? Or we can never get a game who's story and art is equally good?
 
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ScottyLQ

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I don't really mind graphics resolution. The models seem a bit off, but apart from Keeley (yikes), and she's not the main focus of this game, it's nothing major.

What boggles me is the way they're treating their source material. Last game it was all about "wow, check out how cool Christine is and all the crazy stuff she makes you do". Now right out of the gate you get a somber "Christine is bad, and all the crazy stuff she made you do was bad".

Also, it's pretty sad they're adopting the commercial format, but if they're going to go "professional" with this and are able to take the criticism and donor expecations that it entails, then good luck to them.


Yeesh
 
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k0e

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I'll hold off any major criticism until the other parts are released, but damn, Sandy doesn't look right here and she's my favourite as well, so this is a double downer for me.
 

Stev1

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Praying for some cheating/cuck/ntr content from them for once.

They always get sooo close but never cross the line.

Take the first game of this series, she super excited to put a camera in her neighbors house to spy on them having sex, and even gets her friend to 'test' you to make sure you don't cheat...says she 'never feels bad about anything' etc.

But cheating on you? Straying with the odd hook up? Its always the same 'I would NEVER do that' kind of line.

Not really a bad girl imo then.
 
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Dasati

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What boggles me is the way they're treating their source material. Last game it was all about "wow, check out how cool Christine is and all the crazy stuff she makes you do". Now right out of the gate you get a somber "Christine is bad, and all the crazy stuff she made you do was bad".
It's more highlighting that the stuff she made you do was fairly extreme. Remember Adrian at the start of the first game was extremely timid and lacking in self confidence. She was his dream girl he'd lusted after for months by that point so getting to be with her was a high. We don't know how much time has passed between the end of the first game and the start of this one other than they've been dating "a while". Its safe to say the honeymoon period is over, the rose tinted glasses have been removed and now Adrian is questioning if, long term, he could be happy being the junior partner in the relationship. Tlaero's gig has always been about writing more realistic character's in her games. Hell she even caught some flak with Redemption for Jessica as some people thought that your character was weak. I disagreed with that assertion then, but in this case Christine is clearly the more dominant one in the relationship so i think it's natural that Adrian would have doubts.
 

ScottyLQ

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I don't know about that, after Christine I always felt more that her gig became writing unreasonably 'cool', strong female characters, and physically useless male leads who brought all the sentimental stuff into the game.

I mean if they're not part of a super-powered secret cabal, they're lamborghini-driving, gun-toting "security agents".

The first two or three Phreaky games really were more grounded and realistic.
 

jtc

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I don't know about that, after Christine I always felt more that her gig became writing unreasonably 'cool' strong female characters, and physically useless male leads who brought all the sentimental stuff into the game.
She's still better than anyone else in the "porn game" business.

I'll take "unreasonably strong female characters" over the rape, incest, bestiality, cheating etc that 99% of these games are full of, any day.
 

ScottyLQ

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She's still better than anyone else in the "porn game" business.

I'll take "unreasonably strong female characters" over the rape, incest, bestiality, cheating etc that 99% of these games are full of, any day.
Take what you want, sir or madam, but don't misquote me. I said "unreasonably cool, strong female characters". I realize I missed the comma (which I'll fix right now), but do notice which noun the adjective affects.

Your passionate response seems a little biased though, there's plenty of games out there that aren't full of rape, incest, bestiality, et-cetera.
 
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nyanza

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Their games are always such a nice change of pace from the usual overused crap. The unreasonably cool and strong female character could be an equivalent to "muh dick is 12 inches and I'll fuck all my family, neighbours and friends in the 5 days this game will take place in". Yeah, none of them are widely realistic but at least here things don't look like written by a bored sixth grader between classes. It doesn't exactly fit my tastes completely either but looking at the way things are presented I know very well which one I would choose.
 
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Lndlordd

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they generally do make good games with a gripping story line.....new game called 'darkness falls' is out....looking forward to playing it..
 

macadam

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i feel a bit of pain .. :/

of course its great when its about Mortze and Tlaero, their games are awesome.
but thoses multiples projects are killing me :(
i wait pandora next chapter for sooo long..

they definitly should concentrate on 1 game and then move to the others. instead of making multiples games in same time that slow the whole process of them all.
 
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