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CheekyGimp

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So after thinking remake...? Lets give the old shit Episode 24 a try I can conclude the following:
The Writing and any narrative causality it was supposed to create utterly collapses every episode anew. :poop:

Final example:

I got used to the random side chick from Episode XX appears => Main Girl Romance is_kill = yes
But the Jolina, Elaine, Bella at the Beach House scene invalidates a player choice five clicks after it was optioned.

If I am given the following switch board

EP 24: Mayor Decision Warning
1) E=Yes, B=No
2) E=No, B=yes
3) E=yes, B= Yes, B_revenge = yes

Why does: Fuck_J_First from Episode 22, set B=No and B_revenge = No?

It deselects Bella from the game without any prompt or player input and invalidates the revenge path aka third choice I made five clicks ago...:ROFLMAO:
I was promised a Revenge plot and some Bella action, but now that Coffee Jane makes me rich for fucking her first I no longer want to romance or revenge Bella? WTF? Why offer a choice only to kill it five clicks later...

The game went from female romance option refuses MC due to cluster fuck to => MC refuses romance options by himself after choosing it...o_O

TL;DR:
Don't bother with the remake if the writing in every episode causes random romance kills in the same or following episode. :sick: I lost faith in that game ever having a clear path remake or not...
If someone can translate this for me, I'll take a look at your complaint. I think you are complaining about my writing, but I cannot be sure. If I were you, I'd consider re-writing your message because I think your cat may have ran across your keyboard as you were typing. Now considering how difficult your small message was to follow, imagine trying to write a game with 912,376 words, hundreds of major path divergences and thousands of choices. Not that easy, right? But thanks for the feedback, if that's what it was. Or maybe it was a recipe for hungarian goulash that someone converted to chinese using google translate and then back to english using the Rosetta stone.
 

CheekyGimp

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Hi.
Just discovered this and playing on Android using Ceb's. Do I need to download both season 1 and episode 24?
No, they can be treated like separate games (saves aren't compatible). Season 1 is the remake with updated art and script changes (and will cover episodes 1-10 of the original, plus some new/original content). This will be released on steam when it's finished (this summer). The original game will conclude with episode 25 (plus some epilogues) and work will re-commence on episode 25 this summer once we get the steam release completed. After episode 25 and epilogues are released, the original game is over. And then we will continue with the steam version until it also ends at the same place as the original. The second half of the original game and the second half of the remake will be very similar as there'll be very few changes (really only the first half that is getting the overhaul), so as we progress with the remake / steam version, there will be less and less edits required compared to the original. Season 2 will not continue the game AFTER episode 25. It is just the next bunch of episodes (after episode 10) of the remake... so Season 2 will cover (for example) episodes 11-20. Hope that makes sense?
 

shadosgt

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Ok I'm just trying to verify, there is currently no way to keep Monica/Katie/Jenna relationship wise? Am I missing something? It's really You keep
Mon/Zar or
Jen/Kat or
lie to them and lose all 3?
 

Maviarab

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Ok I'm just trying to verify, there is currently no way to keep Monica/Katie/Jenna relationship wise? Am I missing something? It's really You keep
Mon/Zar or
Jen/Kat or
lie to them and lose all 3?
Correct.
 

JackMiejov

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Ok I'm just trying to verify, there is currently no way to keep Monica/Katie/Jenna relationship wise? Am I missing something? It's really You keep
Mon/Zar or
Jen/Kat or
lie to them and lose all 3?
I think, through the end of Ep24, the game forces the player to make the choices:

Katie -OR- Monica
Bella -OR- Elaine

As far as I know, neither Zarah nor Jenna have an impact, but you're correct that there's no way to keep Monica/Katie/Jenna.
 

K.T.L.

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Yeah. Pity that. I had to reject Monika because I can't resist Katie for long.
On the other hand, they're all just icing on the Lily cake...
 

massagecook01

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Yeah. Pity that. I had to reject Monika because I can't resist Katie for long.
On the other hand, they're all just icing on the Lily cake...
i had a terrible feeling and was so upset with myself when katie said that she heard monica crying in her room and that she suspected that monica's boyfriend broke up with her.
 

K.T.L.

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i had a terrible feeling and was so upset with myself when katie said that she heard monica crying in her room and that she suspected that monica's boyfriend broke up with her.
Yeah, that doesn't sound good :( but I haven't seen that scene. I have never let things progress that far. I rejected anything but a friendly relationship with her from the start. But then I'm not averse to multiple play through's of a game so once I work out what's going on in the first run through, I know how to avoid a lots of the 'unwanted' scenes in subsequent runs. Guess I was just lucky that on my first playthrough I went with Katie, Lily and Debbie. Just can't avoid Lily, she's so impossibly cute.
 
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massagecook01

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Yeah, that doesn't sound good :( but I haven't seen that scene. I have never let things progress that far. I rejected anything but a friendly relationship with her from the start. But then I'm not averse to multiple play through's of a game so once I work out what's going on in the first run through, I know how to avoid a lots of the 'unwanted' scenes in subsequent runs. Guess I was just lucky that on my first playthrough I went with Katie, Lily and Debbie. Just can't avoid Lily, she's so impossibly cute.
yeah i hear you Lily has one of those natural bodies that was made to breed and bear children, she's got the skin, the not huge boobs but not small and a ass for days and her face is probaly one of the most beautiful in the game, i had to reject her and debbie for katie and jenna or if i did or not i'm not sure i rejected them because i never got a scene to were we had the converation about breaking up. :unsure:
 

K.T.L.

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yeah i hear you Lily has one of those natural bodies that was made to breed and bear children, she's got the skin, the not huge boobs but not small and a ass for days and her face is probaly one of the most beautiful in the game, i had to reject her and debbie for katie and jenna or if i did or not i'm not sure i rejected them because i never got a scene to were we had the converation about breaking up. :unsure:
Pretty sure I've seen a comment somewhere in this thread that said Jenna is happy with whoever you're with. I haven't tried it yet but, if that's the case, there should be no issue getting Lily, Debbie, Katie and Jenna. I'll have to try that next. Sounds sort of exciting tbh... :whistle: I'm not that bothered about the rest of them!
 

LionHeart 95

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If someone can translate this for me,


So after thinking remake...? Lets give the old shit Episode 24 a try I can conclude the following:
The Writing and any narrative causality it was supposed to create utterly collapses every episode anew.

This is growth of the MC vers life or just being a 2d Character so the player discussing this is wants to Mc to have no growth and stay true to the first ep. That is not a story but porn which this game is not!

Final example:

I got used to the random side chick from Episode XX appears => Main Girl Romance is_kill = yes
But the Jolina, Elaine, Bella at the Beach House scene invalidates a player choice five clicks after it was optioned.

If I am given the following switch board

EP 24: Mayor Decision Warning
1) E=Yes, B=No
2) E=No, B=yes
3) E=yes, B= Yes, B_revenge = yes

Why does: Fuck_J_First from Episode 22, set B=No and B_revenge = No?

These Examples show that the MC is growing to love hate relationships with the player in mid to the choice based on a predefined story so the Player is out of touch to their true self. On how to play a game. Either play out all outcomes to see the genius of the Devs’ or follow your own path to develop the story based on the constraints placed by the Developer to give the player a since of the world they imagine the Characters live in and can self immerse. Obviously the player is unable to see him/her self in the role of the MC so they miss the genius of this VN

It deselects Bella from the game without any prompt or player input and invalidates the revenge path aka third choice I made five clicks ago...
I was promised a Revenge plot and some Bella action, but now that Coffee Jane makes me rich for fucking her first I no longer want to romance or revenge Bella? WTF? Why offer a choice only to kill it five clicks later...

When playing Bella as a Li you still can Reject her later but if you push her away early she doesn’t get the message you don’t want her. (but that is later revealed part of her plan) so the Player again has missed the entire VN overall growth of the Plot. Revenge on Bella is a choice but a lame one if I was to give credence to the plan of the MC why he act as a smip in one moment but and alpha most of the other times. A harsher consequences need to be a choice of Mc similar to the rework of the touching of Monica’s ass in the first ep. A legal or huge slap by Elaine leaving a hand print on her face or (you get the ideal)

The game went from female romance option refuses MC due to cluster fuck to => MC refuses romance options by himself after choosing it...

Again the Player misses the Title of the game here “Where The Heart Is” in the beginning the MC needs love he never truly had after his mother passed. Rekindled with Monica and her daughters his heart opens but is lost looking everywhere and finds love in every girl he sees then he matures a little and see that one or more may not be his future.

TL;DR:
Don't bother with the remake if the writing in every episode causes random romance kills in the same or following episode. I lost faith in that game ever having a clear path remake or not...

At first I too did not see a reason for the remake but after playing the demos released so far I’m all in as it is giving a more real feel to the personality of the Mc and the ladies within the game. The Player posting this just feels let down but I believe based on past comments after the game completes epilogues will provide for options the Player may enjoy.

I think that the best I can decode this post!
 
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Skep-tiker

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Pretty sure I've seen a comment somewhere in this thread that said Jenna is happy with whoever you're with. I haven't tried it yet but, if that's the case, there should be no issue getting Lily, Debbie, Katie and Jenna. I'll have to try that next. Sounds sort of exciting tbh... :whistle: I'm not that bothered about the rest of them!
Definitively possible
 
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