What are some rare fetishes you want to see in games?
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This has been mentioned but I'll say it anyway:
Intimacy, hand-holding and deep connection: Yeah, sex is cool but where is the love?
Bisexual/semi-straight male PC's exploring their sexuality: I don't usually play bisexual or gay, but I like having the choice to if there is a good male NPC/follower/LI available.
Traps/Femboys/Tomgirls: There are some good games with this archetype, but there just aren't enough of them. They don't have to be feminine-coded or gay either. I just like the aesthetic of girlishness and twinks.
Male submissiveness: And here i want to be clear that I think there is a huge difference between submissiveness and femininity. A lot of games conflate these and treat submissiveness as taking the stereotypical "woman's role" in sexual encounters, or in general. It says a lot about the author when they cannot distinguish between femininity and submissiveness. I want to be able to play as a male character and be submissive and following orders without being someone's receptacle for dildoes, strap-ons and cock-binders.
Female domination: On the flip side to the above, conflating domination with masculinity. Women who are sexually dominant and that translates into "doing what the man would do" is such a bore. When I play a game and let the woman take charge (which is a rare option in many erotic games) very often this will lead to her taking the "male role" pulling out a dildo/butt-plug, or denying my MC to use their male parts because "they are the woman now". Whenever the dialogue makes reference to her using my characters ass as a pussy I roll my eyes. Women can be in control while still using their own sexual organs, damn it.
Taboo exploration: I like taboos, but I would like it much more in games if the characters actually behaved like what they were doing was absolutely wrong. Following characters that can't resist the temptation any longer and having to reconcile that they are going to break taboos and they get closer to each other for it is exciting! The obvious one here is incest, but even other taboos when written well make the whole things so much better. Player characters jumping head-first into deviancy is not exciting at all.
Mommy-domme/pampering: Women characters who force, or heavily encourage, other characters into a receiving role of motherly nurturing such as breastfeeding, grooming, washing, massaging etc. This doesn't need to include age-play (better if it doesn't), nor does it have to include sex, but just that the woman gets off on being a mamma goose and will take control of the encounter to let herself live out that fantasy is pretty darn hot. Bonus if she is just a little bit patronising, or an obsessive that admonishes you for being reckless/putting yourself in danger. Double bonus if she is the kind to force you to sleep with her so she can keep an eye on you while you're sleeping. Triple bonus if she wants to have another baby so she has more people to pamper. What can I say? I have a MILF type.
Intimacy, hand-holding and deep connection: Yeah, sex is cool but where is the love?
Bisexual/semi-straight male PC's exploring their sexuality: I don't usually play bisexual or gay, but I like having the choice to if there is a good male NPC/follower/LI available.
Traps/Femboys/Tomgirls: There are some good games with this archetype, but there just aren't enough of them. They don't have to be feminine-coded or gay either. I just like the aesthetic of girlishness and twinks.
Male submissiveness: And here i want to be clear that I think there is a huge difference between submissiveness and femininity. A lot of games conflate these and treat submissiveness as taking the stereotypical "woman's role" in sexual encounters, or in general. It says a lot about the author when they cannot distinguish between femininity and submissiveness. I want to be able to play as a male character and be submissive and following orders without being someone's receptacle for dildoes, strap-ons and cock-binders.
Female domination: On the flip side to the above, conflating domination with masculinity. Women who are sexually dominant and that translates into "doing what the man would do" is such a bore. When I play a game and let the woman take charge (which is a rare option in many erotic games) very often this will lead to her taking the "male role" pulling out a dildo/butt-plug, or denying my MC to use their male parts because "they are the woman now". Whenever the dialogue makes reference to her using my characters ass as a pussy I roll my eyes. Women can be in control while still using their own sexual organs, damn it.
Taboo exploration: I like taboos, but I would like it much more in games if the characters actually behaved like what they were doing was absolutely wrong. Following characters that can't resist the temptation any longer and having to reconcile that they are going to break taboos and they get closer to each other for it is exciting! The obvious one here is incest, but even other taboos when written well make the whole things so much better. Player characters jumping head-first into deviancy is not exciting at all.
Mommy-domme/pampering: Women characters who force, or heavily encourage, other characters into a receiving role of motherly nurturing such as breastfeeding, grooming, washing, massaging etc. This doesn't need to include age-play (better if it doesn't), nor does it have to include sex, but just that the woman gets off on being a mamma goose and will take control of the encounter to let herself live out that fantasy is pretty darn hot. Bonus if she is just a little bit patronising, or an obsessive that admonishes you for being reckless/putting yourself in danger. Double bonus if she is the kind to force you to sleep with her so she can keep an eye on you while you're sleeping. Triple bonus if she wants to have another baby so she has more people to pamper. What can I say? I have a MILF type.
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Don't forget that the MC was also written as a loser who lacks the self-awareness to realize that he's not in fact better than everyone else. Unemployed, cheated on, and living on his cousin's couch, yet thinks he's God's gift to humanity.
Rape couple:
The idea is that a man and woman rape someone together.
With the woman often being the helper.
Betrayal:
There are very few things as satisfying as turning people against there loved once's.
Imagine this scene.
You are raping a teenager in her room.
She cries out for help.
Her mother shows up to gag her and tell her to stop struggling.
The empty eyes that follow are like the forbidden tree of eden.
Just too damm tasty.
Mindless drone:
So many mind control games and so far only superpowered has the option to turn minds off.
I want to see empty eyes.
Speaking in monotones.
Emotionless sex is wonderful.
Speaking of which.
Ignore sex.
Where you fuck someone and they dont react to you at all.
No moaning, No horny face.
Just compleet unfazed.
Works wonders in combination with emotionless sex.
The idea is that a man and woman rape someone together.
With the woman often being the helper.
Betrayal:
There are very few things as satisfying as turning people against there loved once's.
Imagine this scene.
You are raping a teenager in her room.
She cries out for help.
Her mother shows up to gag her and tell her to stop struggling.
The empty eyes that follow are like the forbidden tree of eden.
Just too damm tasty.
Mindless drone:
So many mind control games and so far only superpowered has the option to turn minds off.
I want to see empty eyes.
Speaking in monotones.
Emotionless sex is wonderful.
Speaking of which.
Ignore sex.
Where you fuck someone and they dont react to you at all.
No moaning, No horny face.
Just compleet unfazed.
Works wonders in combination with emotionless sex.
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Yeah no.
I still want them to be moving.
Mind break is hot.
Necrophilia is one of the few things i dont like.
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Are you being serious or are you joking? I am hoping this is a joke, because I laughed tbh.
Outside of the really weird celebrity worship fanfic characters, it's in my top 10.
If that was your intent, needless to say: If you were kicking a field goal, you kicked it right at your own head coach because it didnt come off that way at all.
Also, respect for accepting critique with maturity. Many cant do that. You did, so kudos.
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Nice.. you horndog.
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How about no sex content? i mean delay it to the maximum, so when you get it you feel it like uber achievement.
Also (hear me out I know it's sick and twisted) how about HAND HOLDING! (there i said it)
Also (hear me out I know it's sick and twisted) how about HAND HOLDING! (there i said it)
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That's one of the most braindead takes I've ever read on this site. You can dislike the art style, but calling the gameplay of one of the incredibly few visual novels with lots of player choices and many distinct routes "trash" is just bizarre.
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I like GGGB, but its "racial depictions"... the most prominent black guy is a BBC rapper called Tyrone. Should I add more?
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When I mentioned "Celebrity fetishism", I thought of Tyrone. She is literally fetishing K*nye West. Along with Jack literally being The R0ck copypasta and Mama's weird new BF being Anders0n C00per copypasta. The MC is literally a drawn model Ashley Graham. Ashley's dad is literally a drawn older Louie Anderson. Ashley's mom is a drawn Emilia Clarke. You can say its equal opportunity celebrity fetishizing.
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I mean, that's true, but that makes it sound worse than it actually is. It's not like he's just randomly a rapper because "lol, that's the only job black people have besides being an athlete or a criminal, right?" Him being a rapper is actually tied to the plot, it's not just a flimsy pretense at characterization. Does the game engage in fetishized interracial content? Sure, but I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Compared to the low standard of how black men usually are depicted in these games I don't think GGGB deserves much criticism on that front. Maybe shouldn't have called him Tyrone because it's too much of a meme by this point. GGGB also doesn't aspire to be a grounded and realistic game in the first place, most of the characters are pretty trope-y and "larger than life." Especially if you lean into the "going bad" part of the game.
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If you talk to Tyrone slightly, you can even see some depth and motivations. He is there for "blacked" content, for sure though. But as I said, Eva Kiss really went nuts on fetishing celebrities in that game. Not just "Tyrone" but lots of characters.
I'm with Jaike on this one.
The post was in response to the statement that Personal Trainer was bad because of stereotypical depictions of race, while GGGB showed "fair" racial depictions. I had to do a double take when I read that lol.
I can't speak for Personal Trainer because I didn't play it past the intro, but GGGB has as two of its main plot lines, Tyrone and his posse chanting about snowbunnies, and Mexican gangbangers.
I like raceplay and unwholesome shit in porn as much as the next degenerate, but let's call a spade a spade. It's a literal fetishization of racial stereotypes.
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Mexican gangbangers? So you're saying there's a lot of diversity and representation.
Maybe I'm braindamaged from playing too many cuckold games, but if you think GGGB is racist or deals in too many stereotypes you literally haven't played enough games. Also I don't really know what people want. If you feature minorities but do it in a "fetishized" way it's bad, if you don't you get threads whining about every character being white. Should GGGB only have featured white criminals and a fat, nerdy, black guy with a micro penis as a love interest to subvert the audience's racist expectations?
If you're going to feature a rapper and gang members as characters in your game and it's set in the US they probably shouldn't be white. Does that mean you have to fully lean in to every stereotype? No, but you should lean into some of them unless you're trying to make some hyper-realistic character study and not a porn game where you turn into a degenerate slut.
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LOL, I probably played more NTR shit than youMexican gangbangers? So you're saying there's a lot of diversity and representation.
Maybe I'm braindamaged from playing too many cuckold games, but if you think GGGB is racist or deals in too many stereotypes you literally haven't played enough games. Also I don't really know what people want. If you feature minorities but do it in a "fetishized" way it's bad, if you don't you get threads whining about every character being white. Should GGGB only have featured white criminals and a fat, nerdy, black guy with a micro penis as a love interest to subvert the audience's racist expectations?
.Notice I didn't make any statements regarding what is "proper" or good or bad. I'm not a SJW who would get offended at fictional situations... in a porn game no less. It was the irony that I, and presumably Jaike, picked up when the guy dissed one game for being stereotypical while praising GGGB for "doing it right."
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I guess it depends on what doing it right means. If you want to play a politically correct, diverse, realistic dating sim, then no, GGGB didn't do it "right." But it did it right for what the game wanted to be. Also I think there's a scale of "being stereotypical." Like, there's a vast chasm between having a black character who's a rapper and likes to fuck white chicks and whatever you might find in a Jobeo game.
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Hah, didn't know my short dumb comment would raise a minidebate.
I don't really disagree with anything said here, like I said I like GGGB so I don't think it's actually bad. My criteria for "very fair" are just kinda high, maybe too narrow. Certainly higher than "better than average". Not an NAACP endorsement, but to stick with Tyrone, though there are other examples like desmo wrote, I think combining a BBC, rapper and the name Tyrone in one character pushes it below "very fair" and down into "tropey but decent". (Not that alone but you know what I mean.) For very fair, I'd say "pick one" and save the other tropes for other characters. Again, doesn't mean GGGB's a bad game, far from it. It's really about the width of choices and player agency.
How to balance stereotyping vs tokenism in ethnic minority characters is a big topic, but keeping it short I think people usually are too quick to throw the "too white" card.
Back on topic, "forced" headshaving or "forced" lactation, both combined with immobilisation. The second one is relatively common in HTML games.
I don't really disagree with anything said here, like I said I like GGGB so I don't think it's actually bad. My criteria for "very fair" are just kinda high, maybe too narrow. Certainly higher than "better than average". Not an NAACP endorsement, but to stick with Tyrone, though there are other examples like desmo wrote, I think combining a BBC, rapper and the name Tyrone in one character pushes it below "very fair" and down into "tropey but decent". (Not that alone but you know what I mean.) For very fair, I'd say "pick one" and save the other tropes for other characters. Again, doesn't mean GGGB's a bad game, far from it. It's really about the width of choices and player agency.
How to balance stereotyping vs tokenism in ethnic minority characters is a big topic, but keeping it short I think people usually are too quick to throw the "too white" card.
Back on topic, "forced" headshaving or "forced" lactation, both combined with immobilisation. The second one is relatively common in HTML games.