- Jun 5, 2017
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Won't be much of a game then, but I guess ripping images does speed up the process a little.
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Everyone with their own cup of thinking. Cheers~
Okay seems we all getting too hyped about the topic......and clearly you take what people saying here in the negative way rather than take it as a criticism for better.
Feel free to disregard what people talk about your game and the content of it but don't be surprised if later on you will meet with some real issues from wider public on the finished product if things stays as is......
All things considered.......you still got deadline to meet so less reading here and focus on what you doing please?? Lets get to it again when you deliver the final product.....in due month.
"Don't play the game, don't support the game if it offends your moral standard." - soooo....were you saying people who play and support your game don't have moral standard?? Somehow its funny really.....
I will still wait for the final product though - to see what can one achieve within a month and half......granted if you not taking down your game.
Aw, I like how you're encouraging him here, good on you. Honestly, taking a look at that patreon, it probably wouldn't be an issue. He'd probably have to make a significant amount of money for it to be worth taking any legal action, and it doesn't look like that'll happen soon. Who knows though, this could be a hidden gem developed in record time that starts his erotic-game production career.
No, that doesn't necessarily follow. "If it offends your moral standard" means it might not offend someone's moral standard, not that they're immoral if it doesn't. Nit-picking here, but if I'm not allowed to think pirating images on a pirating site is funny, you're not allowed to laugh at that. XD
Whoa, dude, take it easy. Listen, if you want to develop naughty games, and by extension put yourself out there in the public eye, you need to understand that things like this are going to happen to you. There are going to be people who speak out against any kind of art, and if enough people know you, there are going to be people who don't like you.
Like, basically everyone with any significant number of views on youtube gets death threats. Most of them don't lose any sleep over it, because the world is full of trolls, and people who legitimately want to kill you don't generally announce they're coming in advance. Most people. Fuck you Anita Sarkeesian...
For one thing, plenty of people here do spend money on porn, I don't think that's a fair statement at all. For another, an outburst like that doesn't make you look any better. You're a dev, put your game face on. I've seen a few devs around here openly talked trash about their projects to, and they usually come off as the nicest, most reasonable people.
Say something like "The best thing about this corn-crusted turd is that it's over eventually," and they'll come back with something like "Glad you got some enjoyment out of it, thanks for the feedback!" And we tend to like these people, even if we know they're probably pissed, and putting on a fake PR mask.
And here, people aren't even really criticizing your work, they're bringing valid concerns to you attention. Real talk, if you're going to blow up and come back with biting sarcasm when shit like this happens, especially when you're admittedly in the wrong (based on the changes you made to your patreon), you are not cut out to be a dev, because this shit is gonna happen to you all the time. And I'm not speaking as a dev here, just as an artistic type, so maybe I'm talking out of my ass, but I feel actual devs would back me up here.
Like, find a friend to vent to, geez. Game devs get abused, that's a widely know fact in the industry; you knew what you were signing up for!
And on your point about the assets not being used outside of their country, being wasted... I mean, they're not wasted, they're used in Japanese games. I dunno man, I feel like that's like saying it's okay to steal a penny. It's just a penny, nobody is gonna use it anyway. And then that line of logic makes a slippery slope, and you end up in Office Space.
Maybe that's a bad example, but the gist is where does it end, and how far does it go if you're allowed to keep getting away with it?
Also, pirate bay's been shut down a few times, and someone else doing something doesn't mean its okay.
Also, pirate bay was trying to keep its site up with donations and ads. It wasn't selling a product with stolen content. What you gotta remember is that its a service. Treat it as being similar to wikipedia. Information may be free, but it isn't truly free. A lot of the journals cited require a connection to a legal institution with rights to a journal. What you are doing is taking donations for creating a product using someone else's content. First thing you should do is really rebrand yourself as selling services and the money is to simply keep the service going for others to continue to use, whether it be pirating porn, or etc. But then again, the reselling of assets is another touchy subject since there are patron creators that act as collections of other works. So try to avoid selling yourself as one of those kinds of services.
What exactly is being sold here? All I saw was a Patreon account!
(You know that online service that allows people to donate some of their money to others.)
It's really about marketing yourself. You gotta sell yourself as a service. The OP was trying to compare themselves with PirateBay which is a service and has ongoing cost for hosting which is what the donations are for. But the OP has no ongoing cost such as a website which the donations are going towards. The person has to sell their services to convince people that the use of the assets were in good faith and were not intended to be out of malicious intent.
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I'm just being frank. If people have moral problems with the game, they can pass on it. And I don't mean that with any malice. There's plenty of porn to go around. Just move on to the next and find what floats your boat. I understand the criticism, but I made a deliberate choice, and I'm sticking by it. I'm not exactly going to hire an artist for my free game lol. But yeah, try the updated version due on October 25th and let me know what you think. And I think I'll take up on that advice and stop reading these posts till the update.
- Oct 16, 2018
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Thanks for the tip. I'm not trying to come across as a dick, but it looks I did. I suppose reading my post again, it does look like I may been overly sarcastic and defensive. It'd be nice to put on the PR mask, but I'm just going to be frank. I'm not a professional game dev. I'm making a free game as a hobby. People can shit all over the game for all I care, but the morality of the game existing at all is something that I felt needed to be addressed given the amount of concerns about it. And in this case, I think we're all just going to have to agree to disagree.
Which is why, I keep saying, it's all good if people don't want to play it or support it (and it seems this came across like I'm being malicious? But really I just meant it in a conciliatory way to those offended). I don't have a single patreon supporter, but I still plan to finish and release the game in November. It will be free to play regardless of if people donate.
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Well besides the few static images that I priated, I have to put in time and effort in designing an entire rpg. But I'm not trying to sell anything. It really is just if people enjoyed it, they can donate some change if they feel inclined to do so. Maybe I can break even on a percentage of the electricity I'm using making the game lol or buy myself a burger to maintain the energy to keep working. If not, oh well. This first game is getting released for sure regardless.
Here's the thing, mate: This forum is absolutely flooded with 0.1 pre alphas with 2 pics and 3 words for a story. Each and every one of those game's developers promises the sky, the moon and a sane presidency within the half life of chromium-51.
If you set yourself the goal to finish the game in a month and a half...more power to you. Every other person here will stay sceptical at best. And mind you, we have every reason to be. What I'm saying here is: If you manage it, great. But we won't hold our breath. So instead of trying to fight against windmills here, just do your thing.
See if you can deliver a half-decent game. If you can, you'll get followers. If not, you won't. It's simple as that.
If you set yourself the goal to finish the game in a month and a half...more power to you. Every other person here will stay sceptical at best. And mind you, we have every reason to be. What I'm saying here is: If you manage it, great. But we won't hold our breath. So instead of trying to fight against windmills here, just do your thing.
See if you can deliver a half-decent game. If you can, you'll get followers. If not, you won't. It's simple as that.
- Jun 23, 2017
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I'm just going to put this out there but before people get too excited they should realize most of the games on the site use stolen Daz assets. It's just much harder to catch well because noone knows for sure but if you think these barely english speaking devs who are releasing 0.1s are spending hundreds of dollars for licenses then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you
The only ones paying for art are usually the ones drawing their own or hitting someone up on Devianart to do original artwork.
Dev your game looks pretty solid for a 0.1. Interested to see how it plays out.
The only ones paying for art are usually the ones drawing their own or hitting someone up on Devianart to do original artwork.
Dev your game looks pretty solid for a 0.1. Interested to see how it plays out.
You talking about daz3d? Thought most of their stuff was for sell for others to use. That or unless someone was pirating their 3d models and etc. If they are, OP can find some nice models to use in their game. Saw a nice closet slut waiting to be lewded.
Two points: first, I primarily objected to your patreon declaring you were non-profit, and then to you saying that you were non-commercial in your first reply. You are neither of those things. If you want to ask for money, fine; if you want to say your game is free and the patreon supporters won't get perks, fine; but don't pretend you're a charity, mate.
Second, this website accepts donations, and no one has a problem with that. Why? Because no one is profiting from the site, all monies donated pay for the costs, or improvement, of the site. Your game uses stolen art, you aren't hiring artists or paying anyone, any money you make goes into your pocket for your personal use. Shaming others for their personal morality, while defending your own morality with insults and flawed arguments is pretty silly.
The only other issue I would raise is the fact that you are admitting to stealing and receiving money for stolen work, and using this site as your primary means of publicity and distribution, if someone did want to take you down for your theft, you can be sure they would come here too.
We can agree to disagree, but this is an open forum, you don't control what gets posted here, just as we have no control over what you do.
No, no, that's not the part that made you sound like a dick. You sounded like a dick when you got all indignant with your "robin-hood of porn" and your generalizing everyone as "hav(ing) never spent a dime on any porn. . . ." and "High horse cock stroking. . . ." comments, and got into your diatribe about piratebay and moral indignation.
It wasn't all: "live and let live!"
"That guy's an asshole, get'em!"
I understand if you were angry, but if this really is just a hobby, and you're really not in it for the money, and people really are totally wrong here... fuck 'em. It's just a hobby, it's not worth getting upset over.
- Sep 15, 2017
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Did someone mention Honor Among Thieves? Really reminds me of uncharted 2. Great game. Wonder if that is possible for a sex game though.
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I know it's a saying, but have you ever played Among Thieves? I believe there is a section called Honor Among Thieves. Should totally play it.