I think it's pretty awesome. It'd be nice to also include the Glamour Slam scenes as well.
I will add later the Glamour Slam to vault scenes, as for "Organized by Story" well I already did that, if you select the first 3 outfits you will have 3-4 dance(1-4) options but the slut outfit will have only 1(dance 4)
True, I'm just thinking that there may be future content that either breaks that format or has more complicated formats to take advantage of different character backstories/relationships. Especially thinking about some of the Starfire/Blackfire or Supergirl/Powergirl content (or when the "event" content like the prison, costume party, etc gets added). So having a master "story" list could be a nice addition.
My biggest gripe with the original SU is it's a bit unfocused.
I'm so glad that you're stepping up and volunteering to help resolve this egregious situation. . . . Naw, I'm just pulling your chain. SU has more than just one problem and they've been pointed out and ignored by SSR7 for years.
If someone had a list of scenes they needed/wanted filled in (like with the request for the bad ending), I'd be willing to write up new scenes and text. But if I'm being honest, the original Something Unlimited's framing makes for some really repetitive scenes. Having Lex be the protagonist narrows the types of interactions between characters, and if I were personally making a DC themed X-rated game, I think there would be a lot I'd fundamentally change/take in a different direction. Obviously, the original devs were making the game they wanted, but I think it's also a bit obvious they were mainly interested in doing erotica involving certain few characters and a lot of the other heroine options are purely there because they're kind of "expected" to be there.
.I've only just recently stumbled on these remake projects, and frankly, a big part of why I hesitated to straight up volunteer or just make something and share is because like you, SU has lost a lot of intrigue for me. Really early on, I was just waiting for Zatanna content (but also Huntress and Black Canary, considering they're literally the starting heroines). Then, we started getting more and more Teen Titans characters and Young Justice Characters (and getting story content for them) before the original 9 were even "mostly" in the game. When I finally got the Zatanna content, outside of decent artwork, I was pretty underwhelmed in how it felt a bit phoned in. As I mention above, almost purely out of respect for the work you and xMendoza have done, I'm actually totally willing to help write scenes if people have certain scenes in mind. But because of the overall narrative of SU, I don't have much of a creative drive to proactively add new girls personally. Like, would I love to see Star Sapphire, Stephanie Brown, or Mera content? 100%. And in my own Twine game experiments and writing, I've written erotica for those characters. But I can't say the idea of writing scenes of Lex stuff feels that appealing.
Just wanted to be clear: when I was talking about what I would personally change about the story, I didn't want to imply that I think you or OhWee should/need to make story changes. Was just theorycrafting about my preferred direction. I honestly appreciate both of your guys's efforts because even though I don't personally like the design of SU, both of your remakes are a HUGE improvement over the original in terms of quality of life, and accesibility.
We can take more specific story points to DMs to avoid spoilers, if there's plot idea's you'd like to troubleshoot/bounce off with someone.rebirth095
While I can't speak for xMendoza's efforts, which are intended to stay a bit more 'true' to the path, yeah I have some ideas on where to 'take' the basic premise/storyline of SU. As you've noted, the SU storyline doesn't really 'go' anywhere. Yeah sure new locations have been tacked on for Lex to visit, such as Themyscira and I have no idea about Gotham as I stopped playing SU just before Gotham dropped, but those seem more like afterthoughts/wouldn't it be cool if' additions that are chasing SR7's artistic whims.
As I've mentioned before, I DO have a backstory in mind that IMHO better explains why Lex is doing what he's doing. I do want it to be something 'new' and not just a rehash of some event in the DC canon. Darksieid invading Earth has been done a bajillion times a bajillion different ways, and there's no real 'mystery' there anymore. Sure, you can change things up a bit, but in my mind there's some new player in town (from the Universe perspective at least) that brings about the current situation, and why Lex is doing what he's doing.
Indigo/Braniac 8(?) is intended to be the harbinger of sorts that appraises Lex of the true nature of the situation, as she's perceived it anyways, and is also there for sexy fun time of course! 'Cuz this IS a porn game after all!
But back on topic, yeah I was just pondering Lois and Diana's relationship today as it relates to Clark and Lex, and have some ideas there... the last few WB DCAU movies have really been leaning into Diana and Clark being lovers, and I see some potential there...
In any case, yeah this is just one angle I've considered as it relates to SU ReImagined. My main holdback here is that we really need a team of sprite re-mixers/artists that can create new artwork for any new scenes that SU ReImagined writers may come up with. This is why I keep suggesting that someone take on the mantle of 'Art Curator'. This person would scan the Fanart thread regularly and catalogue usable art, and then if it fits one of the storylines that interests a writer, that can be worked into the overall narrative, the Art Curator would simply point the writer to the artwork in question, and/or maybe put a request in the Fanart thread for additional art along those lines.
I'm not expecting the Art Curator to actually make any artwork (they are free to do so of course) or do any of the Ren'Py coding for associated scenes being created, their job would simply be to watch the Sprite Remix thread for interesting artwork, make inquiries/suggestions in said thread as needed, and help writers find the fan artwork that they are looking for.
The next update of ReImagined will show off my ideas r.e. the alternate backstory that I have in mind, and will start to introduce a few new roles inside of Lex's organization. Understand that on Earth 69, Lex is a different man than other Lex Luthors that we've watched and read about, and I want to lean into that.
I don't think of Lex as a mustache twirling villain in this situation. Sure, he can be ruthless in his business dealings, and has had his hand slapped a few times by the authorities for crossing a few lines, but the alternate backstory is a crucible of sorts that will test Lex's abilities as he comes up with a solution to the current problem, and while he's not becoming 'good' (although good Lex the rebel does intrigue me, he's been shown a few times in DC lore), well he has a new outlook on life after having a near death experience...
But that's why it's an alternate backstory, and why I keep saying that others can use ReImagined to come up with their own backstory ideas, as well as story ideas, as different people have different ideas that they might want to explore.
So yeah, if you are interested in exploring this further, we can discuss. I'd like to maintain a bit of mystery though so that cool plot twists aren't spoiled for others that stumble across ReImagined later on, so yeah such things are best discussed in PMs.
Hope this helps!
OhWee
Before you can start inserting any love interests into the game, tou really need to have some artwork to play with. The only male heroes that have made an appearance so far are: Batman, The Question and Wally West, (The Flash - Not Barry Allen). ( No, I'm not going to include Harvey Bullock, . . . that would be disgusting, . . . ).We can take more specific story points to DMs to avoid spoilers, if there's plot idea's you'd like to troubleshoot/bounce off with someone.
When it comes to Lex Luthor, the key traits I always associate with him is resentment. It's why I really like the idea of him being physically fit (was so annoyed by the Jesse Eisenberg casting) and how he describes himself in All-Star Superman: He truly believes he's earned everything he's gotten in terms of intelligence, fortune, and body. As such, Superman as a concept insults him because in his mind, this is an entity that surpasses him without any of the work. But simultaneously, I think there's an overestimation of himself that's key. During the storyline where Superman walks the Earth for a year, so is "missing" from the world, Superman confronts Lex after returning, and hits him with a "What have you accomplished while I've been gone?" Because for all of Lex's rhetoric that "if not for me wasting time on dealing with Superman, I could accomplish great things and have saved humanity myself", that's really just a lie he tells himself. Because at the end of the day, Lex didn't get where he is truly "by himself".
Regarding Diana/Clark, I think it's kind of funny as after the pairing grew in popularity after Dark Knight Strikes Again, it feels like writers started criticizing the pairing a bit more recently. Injustice in particular comes to mind, as WW is almost treated as a bad influence (I'd argue, a lot of this also stems from the fact that in the last decade or two, WW has slowly started being written as the member of the Trinity that's ok with killing, putting her more at odds with Clark). That said, especially in a porn game, I am more than happy to explore more pairings/scenarios as that's something I really do find missing in SU. I mean, we're gonna do a porn game set in the DC universe, but not have all three Batgirls in an orgy? Or the male Robins triple penetrating Steph (the one female Robin)? Or threesome as Starfire and Barbara fight over Nightwing's cock? Threesome between Aquaman, Mera and her evil twin sister where the player has to figure out which is the real Mera? So many possibilities
I totally get your point about the art being the limiting factor. That's mainly why for my pet project, I was more text focused and was making a Twine game. So when I was writing a chapter of a story arc where after a blood infusion, Barbara started transforming into Starfire, I was able to do some photoshop work to make an illustration just to flavor what's really a text based story. As you pointed out, for a visual novel, not only do you need the images for the scene itself, but if you want to preserve continuinty, you need images for the characters modified appropriately for that scene for the dialogue (at least for the way SU presents itself currently).
I've not tried it, but I wonder if any of the AI art generators do a decent job with the Bruce Timm's style (or even just something adjacent)? Because, I think having to write around art does make the process less exciting, creatively (imo). So if there was a way to at least get some of those scenes that way, even if the character spirtes aren't doable, that could at least fill in some gaps.
Frankly, unless there's someone that is willing to commit to do artwork the way SSR7 does for Gunsmoke Games, I don't think trying to match the art direction of what has been done is a viable option. Gunsmoke can take a storyline or set of scenes from beginning to end and ensure that there's artwork for all of that. Unless there's an artist that is willing to do that for a mod, scraping together fanart won't be able to match that.
