VN Ren'Py Abandoned Our Fate - A new family [v0.15 SE] [CedSense]

[215303j]

That being said though, I do question how it will play out though.
On one hand, the father isn't a pushover. He my have to make a choice to either, let things happen. Like holding his daughter down, and letting the guy pop her cherry and rape the shit out of her, for his career.
Or put his family first, and ruin his chances of furthering his career.

I think it's a bit too early in the game for your second option.
And F's chances of getting on that asshole's show were zero to begin with...

I'm also thinking too that, what the hell am I paying thousands of dollars to a heavy, if he's not doing his job.
We've already paid for his service to follow, even had the choice to have cams installed as a part of it.
My bet is that we won't have to intervene much if your heavy comes in and beats the prick down. Thus still leaving the possibility for interview later.

Maybe, but on the other hand, it's also time for dad to play the knight in shining armour again. Thus getting bonus points with D, which will work out positively on both the good and the bad path.

 

[215303j]

I actually like the cliffhangers

closure is always given at the start of each episode, it gives the forum something to shout about and he hasn't pulled the rug from under us "you're going to screw: end episode: next episode: nope, her friend called/ your wife called/ you have to leave for work", the cliffhangers are all resolved in a manner that suits their seriousness

I agree with this. Nothing wrong with the cliffhangers up to now in my opinion.

 

[Kuniyoshi]

I'm glad I waited a while before I started this because I could not put it down! The only negative that I can think of so far is that I have to wait for the next version now!

 

[Vortex5000]

It's a decent game but I do have one gripe, on the "good" paths if he cheats on the girlfriend he seems to feel absolutely no guilt. This is bizarre to me as while even good people can sometimes cheat they'd usually feel really guilty about it afterwards (especially because his girlfirend and him seem to genuinely love one another and have an active sex life as well) but he just seems pleased with himself. Not sure if that really matches the overall personality of the character in that arc.

 

[goditseb]

The Plan for future it say :

In later updates, all major fetishes will be optional.

what does all mean, for example bestiality ?

 

[Ignazzio]

The Plan for future it say :
what does all mean, for example bestiality ?

Major is the word. It's hard to imagine bestiality in this game but if optional who knows

 

[weaselman]

It's a decent game but I do have one gripe, on the "good" paths if he cheats on the girlfriend he seems to feel absolutely no guilt. This is bizarre to me as while even good people can sometimes cheat they'd usually feel really guilty about it afterwards (especially because his girlfirend and him seem to genuinely love one another and have an active sex life as well) but he just seems pleased with himself. Not sure if that really matches the overall personality of the character in that arc.

to me it seemed like the MC didn't think that it would matter, it's just a fling after all and the GF would never find out

plenty of people who don't consider it cheating if there's no love involved or they do consider it cheating but as long as their SO doesn't find out then it's all good

 

[Vortex5000]

to me it seemed like the MC didn't think that it would matter, it's just a fling after all and the GF would never find out

plenty of people who don't consider it cheating if there's no love involved or they do consider it cheating but as long as their SO doesn't find out then it's all good

I mean... sure some people think like that, but I generally wouldn't consider those kinds of people "good" people. My point is even when he seems extremely caring and compassionate he feels absolutely zero remorse about cheating, like nothing. The fact that it probably won't matter should be irrelevant, I say this as somebody who cheated in the past, I mean I was much younger and extremely immature at the time, not to mention somewhat intoxicated and I still felt guilty about it. Like not feeling anything at all for cheating doesn't exactly fit the attitude of a guy who feels guilty for briefly eyeing up his daughter who he never even knew growing up. In fact, even if you turn her down the second time he makes it seem more like a time constraint rather than not wanting to cheat, it's actually sort of vaguely annoying to me.

 

[215303j]

I mean... sure some people think like that, but I generally wouldn't consider those kinds of people "good" people. My point is even when he seems extremely caring and compassionate he feels absolutely zero remorse about cheating, like nothing.

I agree with what you are saying, but on the other hand, on the "good" path, I would reject those women.
Which is what a "good" person would do obviously.

 

[HeavyEavy]

I mean... sure some people think like that, but I generally wouldn't consider those kinds of people "good" people. My point is even when he seems extremely caring and compassionate he feels absolutely zero remorse about cheating, like nothing. The fact that it probably won't matter should be irrelevant, I say this as somebody who cheated in the past, I mean I was much younger and extremely immature at the time, not to mention somewhat intoxicated and I still felt guilty about it. Like not feeling anything at all for cheating doesn't exactly fit the attitude of a guy who feels guilty for briefly eyeing up his daughter who he never even knew growing up. In fact, even if you turn her down the second time he makes it seem more like a time constraint rather than not wanting to cheat, it's actually sort of vaguely annoying to me.

I'm not sure how it will play out eventually, but on one of the paths when you call your girlfriend, you tell her about having sex with her watching, and she get really turned on by it, just say'n

 

[Vortex5000]

I'm not sure how it will play out eventually, but on one of the paths when you call your girlfriend, you tell her about having sex with her watching, and she get really turned on by it, just say'n

That's when you go dominant yes, but it's one thing to explore those as fantasies on the phone, and another to actually go ahead and do them before you've talked about it seriously.

I agree with what you are saying, but on the other hand, on the "good" path, I would reject those women.
Which is what a "good" person would do obviously.

I feel like there's a middle ground to be struck, a flawed man so to speak, one who might cheat but is still trying to be a good person. The kind of person that's quite common in the real world, that kind of person would undoubtedly feel guilt and shame, but might cheat in certain circumstances anyway.

 

[HeavyEavy]

That's when you go dominant yes, but it's one thing to explore those as fantasies on the phone, and another to actually go ahead and do them before you've talked about it seriously.



I feel like there's a middle ground to be struck, a flawed man so to speak, one who might cheat but is still trying to be a good person. The kind of person that's quite common in the real world, that kind of person would undoubtedly feel guilt and shame, but might cheat in certain circumstances anyway.

I guess I'm not sure where, how or why you would think that they don't have an "open" relationship. They aren't cohabitating so they can't have that close of a relationship. which puts them in a "dating' type relationship with no real commitment. This is kind of reinforced since he still comes and goes as he pleases. If they were that commited they would be living together after what (is implied) has been a long relationship. I guess I'm saying that I didn't see/read anything that would imply the kind of relationship your foisting on him.

 

[Vortex5000]

I guess I'm not sure where, how or why you would think that they don't have an "open" relationship. They aren't cohabitating so they can't have that close of a relationship. which puts them in a "dating' type relationship with no real commitment. This is kind of reinforced since he still comes and goes as he pleases. If they were that commited they would be living together after what (is implied) has been a long relationship. I guess I'm saying that I didn't see/read anything that would imply the kind of relationship your foisting on him.

Except you know, he doesn't tell her and whispers about it on the phone with his friend if you tell him. Also not sure why you'd assume it's an open relationship just because they don't live together, most relationships are not open, especially at that age. So the default assumption I make is it IS committed unless said otherwise. Because nothing is said about it being open I assume it is not.

 

[HeavyEavy]

Except you know, he doesn't tell her and whispers about it on the phone with his friend if you tell him. Also not sure why you'd assume it's an open relationship just because they don't live together, most relationships are not open, especially at that age. So the default assumption I make is it IS committed unless said otherwise. Because nothing is said about it being open I assume it is not.

Pretty sure you don't have to tell or whisper to your agent about her, it's none of his business. If you don't sleep with her, you can lie to him and say you did. Also isn't your agents SO related to the girlfriend? Why didn't she say anything about it, she just blows it off as him being him ie. normal. And iirc you can choose your "sex" style no matter which path you take(don't recall exactly, haven't played it for a while). I'm also curious how old you are based on your comment about age. I'm 57 so I think I have a problem with your comment J/K... I chose not to tell him anything, and I didn't stay with the "GF" after dinner and sex, didn't do dishes either, cause that just ain't me. I believe those choices are available even on the "good guy" path. I'd also mention that you don't have to have sex with other women, you chose to. If your going to have guilt about it that guilt should have stopped you before you did it. If that's the case you have no moral compass and it wouldn't bother you anyway. There are games available where you can get cucked and feel guilty all you want, just say'n...

 

[Vortex5000]

Pretty sure you don't have to tell or whisper to your agent about her, it's none of his business. If you don't sleep with her, you can lie to him and say you did. Also isn't your agents SO related to the girlfriend? Why didn't she say anything about it, she just blows it off as him being him ie. normal. And iirc you can choose your "sex" style no matter which path you take(don't recall exactly, haven't played it for a while). I'm also curious how old you are based on your comment about age. I'm 57 so I think I have a problem with your comment J/K... I chose not to tell him anything, and I didn't stay with the "GF" after dinner and sex, didn't do dishes either, cause that just ain't me. I believe those choices are available even on the "good guy" path. I'd also mention that you don't have to have sex with other women, you chose to. If your going to have guilt about it that guilt should have stopped you before you did it. If that's the case you have no moral compass and it wouldn't bother you anyway. There are games available where you can get cucked and feel guilty all you want, just say'n...

I don't really have the energy to address all of this, but I will say that I'm not personally feeling guilty, why would I feel guilty about exploring different button clicked options in a VN. I'm saying the character should perhaps feel guilty, which is a fair bit different. And I don't see how feeling guilt about cheating has anything to do at all with cuckolding, I'm not interested in cuckolding, I'm interested in exploring moral dilemmas. If you don't see how somebody could make a decision and then feel guilty about it you must have led a pretty care free life. Sometimes somebody knows something is wrong, does it anyway, and regrets it afterwards. This applies to many things in life.

I'm only in my late 20's, so perhaps you're offended on the age thing, but I've got many friends who are significantly older than I am, pretty much all of them are in committed relationships, the ones who are not are generally straight up bachelors. It doesn't really matter anyway though, open relations in general are a small % of overall relationships, obviously people commenting on a porn site are going to be somewhat more open to them on average and therefore somewhat more likely to engage in them, but they are not by any means the norm, humans being naturally jealous and insecure.

Its the last I'll say on it anyway, at least with anyone but the dev, if he says it's an open relationship then that's fine (although that should be clarified in game, I doubt from a narrative perspective that would have gone unsaid if it were the case), otherwise I think it's a narrative flaw, it's as simple as that.

 

[HeavyEavy]

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I'm sorry your so "butt hurt" over this, you have missed my point. I'm not sure if it's because of the way I presented it, or you just chose to ignore it. If you are going to do something that will make you feel guilty, then why do it? In most cases you wouldn't. So him not feeling guilty for "cheating" would make sense to me. Here's a bit of wisdom for you: Forget EVERYTHING that is said before the word "but", since that word negates everything said prior to its use. I'm not upset about the age comment, I said as much, but you seem bent on justifying yourself. I take more offense to your statement about this website and the "people" that are here, you must feel pretty guilty about, and the rest of us aren't. Not everyone here are looking for porn, if they are they're idiots. I just like games with adult content, however I must agree that there are way to many click porn type games and I don't waste my time on them. I found 4 games here that I rather like. I also enjoy the discussions I have with people about plots/storylines and directions games go. So you should just relax and enjoy the discussions, or continue as you are and be "butt hurt".

 

[Vortex5000]

I'm sorry your so "butt hurt" over this, you have missed my point. I'm not sure if it's because of the way I presented it, or you just chose to ignore it. If you are going to do something that will make you feel guilty, then why do it? In most cases you wouldn't. So him not feeling guilty for "cheating" would make sense to me. Here's a bit of wisdom for you: Forget EVERYTHING that is said before the word "but", since that word negates everything said prior to its use. I'm not upset about the age comment, I said as much, but you seem bent on justifying yourself. I take more offense to your statement about this website and the "people" that are here, you must feel pretty guilty about, and the rest of us aren't. Not everyone here are looking for porn, if they are they're idiots. I just like games with adult content, however I must agree that there are way to many click porn type games and I don't waste my time on them. I found 4 games here that I rather like. I also enjoy the discussions I have with people about plots/storylines and directions games go. So you should just relax and enjoy the discussions, or continue as you are and be "butt hurt".

You sound really offended for some reason, look I think you're misinterpreting a lot of what I'm saying, text is a fickle medium. I'm not going to engage in this conversation anymore, as it's not clearly not going anywhere, have a good one man.

 

[FroKe88]

New pictures :heartcoveredeyes:

I ask the Tier3 and 4 patrons to choose a new swimming suit for 'Claire', as she will need one very soon , and here is the winner:

 

[Ignazzio]

That's what I call a preview

 

[weaselman]