In all honesty, I do not wish to persue this in court, nor do I want their money. The above was basically just a scary threat I wanted them to take seriously. I was also told according to Italian Law, false copyright claims lead to time in Prison, so hopefully they take this threat seriously and shut down their website.
Any thoughts?
UPDATE: I was just notified that giochipremium.com's payment processor is: "securionpay.com", their email is: legal@securionpay.com
If you would like to, you could file a complaint to them claiming that giochipremium.com is selling coprighted material.
giochipremium.com's website registrar is:
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and their host is
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If you would like to, you can also file a complaint there as well.
UPDATE 2: giochipremium is the same owner who runs traduzionipremium.com, they seem to also own this Patreon
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UPDATE 3: After my threat was made against them, they agreed to take down the game! If your game is up here and you don't want it to be, please do the same!
UPDATE 4: They seem to have completely banned some IPs. You can still access their website using a VPN.
UPDATE 5: Giochi are so salty I got my game taken down from their website, they're attempting/threatening to get people's games taken down from Patreon. Fucking pathetic.
Kinda hypocritical given that you too are "illegally selling" a game with assets STOLEN FROM ILLUSION... if you start doing stupid shit like this, giving them ultimatums and what not, then Illusion may very well do the same thing to you. Don't scream bloody murder when you're just as guilty cause now word is out that someone "stole from you"
Kinda hypocritical given that you too are "illegally selling" a game with assets STOLEN FROM ILLUSION... if you start doing stupid shit like this, giving them ultimatums and what not, then Illusion may very well do the same thing to you. Don't scream bloody murder when you're just as guilty cause now word is out that someone "stole from you"
Runey isn't selling anything.
Nothing was stolen from Illusion.
Runey's game isn't the only one on the site that's being stolen.
Not all of the games that have been stolen are based on Honey Select.
Im not a game developers but that site seriously disgusted me, something need to be done to shut down that site or better if can sent all the culprit to prison.
Runey isn't selling anything.
Nothing was stolen from Illusion.
Runey's game isn't the only one on the site that's being stolen.
Not all of the games that have been stolen are based on Honey Select.
#1 Patreon is commercial use dude... A.K.A. selling(unless the game is for downloadable for free)
#2 the art and animation style of honey select was used and is being sold on patron... A.K.A. stealing
#3 I understand that, but he started the post acting like he owns what he is selling himself, which he doesn't... because look at point #2
#4 of course not, but I was just saying Runey is being a hypocrite himself
keep in mind dude, I support Runey and I love his game, but when he comes out and says that "what this website is doing is wrong", well he isn't any better
Im not a game developers but that site seriously disgusted me, something need to be done to shut down that site or better if can sent all the culprit to prison.
This may be a piracy site but there is a massive difference between
Stealing someone's work and passing it off as your own (the Italian scumbag)
and
Sharing games while giving credit to the original developer and even posting links to that developer. (F95)
Dude get out to get some vitamin for your brain, this site doesnt make money by selling game, you can download all the game in this site for FREE!!! but those scumbag just stealing others hardwork, translated it, claiming it was their and selling it. you're stupid for cannot understand the difference.
This may be a piracy site but there is a massive difference between
Stealing someone's work and passing it off as your own (the Italian scumbag)
and
Sharing games while giving credit to the original developer and even posting links to that developer. (F95)
the whole purpose of my argument is, I don't want f95 to get shut down because some dude points a finger, and, because he is doing something wrong too, he gets everyone else screwed
#1 Patreon is commercial use dude... A.K.A. selling(unless the game is for downloadable for free)
#2 the art and animation style of honey select was used and is being sold on patron... A.K.A. stealing
#3 I understand that, but he started the post acting like he owns what he is selling himself, which he doesn't... because look at point #2
#4 of course not, but I was just saying Runey is being a hypocrite himself
keep in mind dude, I support Runey and I love his game, but when he comes out and says that "what this website is doing is wrong", well he isn't any better
Dude get out to get some vitamin for your brain, this site doesnt make money by selling game, you can download all the game in this site for FREE!!! but those scumbag just stealing others hardwork, translated it, claiming it was their and selling it. you're stupid for cannot understand the difference.
Dude get out to get some vitamin for your brain, this site doesnt make money by selling game, you can download all the game in this site for FREE!!! but those scumbag just stealing others hardwork, translated it, claiming it was their and selling it. you're stupid for cannot understand the difference.
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Well i admit my english was bad but i still comment anyway, and like i said you need some sort of vitamin in your brain, you were saying this site posting a pirating content kinda similar with those scumbag?, but you were the one who're missing the point like i mentioned before so read it again, and you just an idiot who blindly defending their scumbag countrymen.
therefore, in your opinion, whoever makes paid material made by others available to all, inevitably damaging the finances of the creators, is ok. But those who sell free material after having modified it without altering the credits of the authors and therefore offering them public visibility deserve the prison.
therefore, in your opinion, whoever makes paid material made by others available to all, inevitably damaging the finances of the creators, is ok. But those who sell free material after having modified it without altering the credits of the authors and therefore offering them public visibility deserve the prison.
Kinda hypocritical given that you too are "illegally selling" a game with assets STOLEN FROM ILLUSION... if you start doing stupid shit like this, giving them ultimatums and what not, then Illusion may very well do the same thing to you. Don't scream bloody murder when you're just as guilty cause now word is out that someone "stole from you"
therefore, in your opinion, whoever makes paid material made by others available to all, inevitably damaging the finances of the creators, is ok. But those who sell free material after having modified it without altering the credits of the authors and therefore offering them public visibility deserve the prison.
To be honest, by reading this I'm not sure if you are confusing things, if you aren't understanding them or if you are just dumb. Could you say who is the good guy and the bad guy according to you?
therefore, in your opinion, whoever makes paid material made by others available to all, inevitably damaging the finances of the creators, is ok. But those who sell free material after having modified it without altering the credits of the authors and therefore offering them public visibility deserve the prison.
Only three sentences and yet still managed to fuck up all three.
First: Paid Material. You completely misunderstand Patreon and indeed, episodes. To the extent that makes it clear you have never thought at all. Patreon is not about selling the material, or the product. It is about sponsoring the creator for their creative effort, NOT the result of that effort. Anyone with an ounce of brain can see this in three easy ways:
If an account chooses to charge per month (the default) rather than per update, then whether or not there is a product release that month, you still pay for the time. Patreon makes no link between the release or availability of a product and the act of sponsorship. You sponsor the artist/creator/person - you are not 'buying' anything.
Each release contains material from previous releases, whether or not you paid during the creation of those, with no price difference. i.e. there is no connection or relationship between the amount of new product and the payment. If I sponsor someone for 8 months at $10 a month ($80 total), then on the 8th month I get exactly the same product as the guy who only started supporting in that 8th month and only paid $10 total.
As mentioned previously, if you look at the credits of pretty much any game I can think of, you see the top tier sponsors using forum names, meaning they setup up their Patreon account using their forum name, meaning they joined the Patreon to support that game *after* knowing exactly where and how they could get it for free. They are choosing to support the developer - the exact opposite of the demoralizing effect of having one's work and credit stolen, claimed as someone else's edit, even changing the name to try to ensure players who like it, and who might pay that grandma-rimming cuckmuppet (which is fraud BTW - taking money under false pretences) for it, can't easily or reasonably find the original source.
Since the opinion of others was based on that understanding, and yours was not, that naturally discounts your commentary of their opinion or it's basis.
If you can get someone capable of reading and thinking to explain the above to you (presumably with sign language and crayon drawings), you might see that therefore distributing their product for free does not harm the business, but on the contrary, is a free sample and advertising, and how they may actually gain sponsors. Many devs, just as NaughtyRoad stated, freely post their own updates to F95, and most Patreon pages themselves, right where the money-making decision is taken, offer a current free version.
So, that's "damaging the finances" also proven completely false and ridiculous as a statement.
Free material: Well, this is where things may get complex for a non-English speaker, never mind a non-sapient. Just because it carries no price tag doesn't make it completely free. It is like a 'free lunch' - it's given as a way to gather an audience and pitch them something. In this case, it is pitching the creativity of the developer and asking for support for future creation.
I detailed before that this was a key point, but obviously you didn't get anyone to explain it to you with mimes and crayons yet, or perhaps this concept is simply beyond you. F95 lets downloaders know, even before they download and start to enjoy, who is responsible for the creation, how they can support it, and generally encourages them to do so. The Italian website does the exact opposite, claiming to have created these, explicitly stating so in fact. It also takes the money up front, so it has already taken the customers money (fraudulently, as I mentioned, a separate crime punishable by jail time) before they are able to see a modified version of only the cheapest part of the content (the text is cheap, 90% of the work is in creating the images to which no modification is applied).
And finally, while the Italian scum-sucker behind this copyright theft and customer fraud may indeed leave the end credits in place, I somehow have the suspicion they'll be the one part of the game NOT translated to Italian when the product is being sold almost exclusively to an Italian-speaking audience, no? So, again, bullshit. Fuck you very much.
