VN Ren'Py Completed Dating My Daughter [Ch. 1-4 v1.01] [MrDots Games]

[youpla]

When you're stating a fact - here that I don't know anything about the subject - the least you can do is to provide some argumentation, development, and proofs.

 

[Engelstein]

When you're stating a fact - here that I don't know anything about the subject - the least you can do is to provide some argumentation, development, and proofs.

The proof is the fact that they are providing updates monthly on two games.

 

[youpla]

The proof is the fact that they are providing updates monthly on two games.

Yes you're right. But as regular the updates are (at least for Melody), I'm talking here about the contents of these updates. I personally think that someone working constantly on games like these ones should be able to propose updates a bit more consequents. Currently, there are close to no interactions, no branching, no new game mechanics, and in fact these updates are a bit short too (but maybe it's just me who think that way ?).

When I compare, for example, with what ICSTOR has done in more or less one month for the X-Mas addon of Milfy City... and that was just a bonus scenario ! Well, I think you see what I mean.


i'm not saying DMD is a bad game. And the same goes for Melody, even if I think it has no "uniqueness". But the games drag on and feel uninspired as the time goes on. MrDots should work a bit on the gameplay mechanics and the choices given to the players instead of going wityh the same formula at the same rythm since 2 years.

 

[armion82]

In 24 posts, it's not so bad.
My ratio is, by the way, higher than your.

But I'm not here to do a dick contest. From now on, I will answer your posts only if you have something constructive to say instead of "your posts are shit". My 15 years old are way behind me.

Then whay you said about the 1400 and 1000 renders?

 

[youpla]

Then whay you said about the 1400 and 1000 renders?

Since you have edited your previous post by adding this point AFTER my answer, of course I didn't see it. Please, at least be honest with your posts...

Now, to answer you : I don't really care about the quantity of renders. Much often, these renders are just slight variations of other ones. Surely it adds some life to the conversations with the characters, but the counterpart is that the "big" events with original graphics, animations, and sexual "activities" are spare.

 

[armion82]

Since you have edited your previous post by adding this point AFTER my answer, of course I didn't see it. Please, at least be honest with your posts...

Now, to answer you : I don't really care about the quantity of renders. Much often, these renders are just slight variations of other ones. Surely it adds some life to the conversations with the characters, but the counterpart is that the "big" events with original graphics, animations, and sexual "activities" are spare.

You edited your post too.How I am suppose to know what you will said.
You are the one that bring what peoples do for 1 month not me.

 

[youpla]

You are the one that bring what peoples do for 1 month not me.

In that case I will ask you, with no harm intention, a single question : do you have a job ?

If yes, then you surely are working constantly. Let's say, 7-8 hours a day. With the week-end, let's roughly say that you are working ~38 hours by week.
Now, once again, when someone is gaining surely way more than 10000$ by month, then I take as a fact that the activity procuring such a "salary" can be considered as its main activity.
Then, by considering that MrDots is working 38 hours by week, even 30 hours, and hell even 20 hours by week, can we consider that the updates as they are right now with Melody and DMD are in par with a "constant line of work" ???

We all know that Patreon is a "easy" source of income once you suceed in producing a game that appeals to the public. The problem is that, way too often, the authors do the max during the first steps of the games, and then adopt a somewhat "lazy" rhythm when they are gaining enough money. After all, why should they go all the way if things are right as they are ?
Look at Mr.c "Corruption" : the content of updates are now sometimes ridiculous, way lighter than what they were at the start of the development.
And should I talk about Akabur ? The perfect example of someone milking his patreons with absolutly no contents ?

Well. MrDots is not as "lazy" as these other developers, far from it. But he has now assumed a slow pace with his updates, with no novelties at all (once again) in the games' mechanics or in the stories. And for someone who, you are saying, is working "constantly" on these games, I find it a bit difficult to swallow.

 

[armion82]

In that case I will ask you, with no harm intention, a single question : do you have a job ?

If yes, then you surely are working constantly. Let's say, 7-8 hours a day. With the week-end, let's roughly say that you are working ~38 hours by week.
Now, once again, when someone is gaining surely way more than 10000$ by month, then I take as a fact that the activity procuring such a "salary" can be considered as its main activity.
Then, by considering that MrDots is working 38 hours by week, even 30 hours, and hell even 20 hours by week, can we consider that the updates as they are right now with Melody and DMD are in par with a "constant line of work" ???

We all know that Patreon is a "easy" source of income once you suceed in producing a game that appeals to the public. The problem is that, way too often, the authors do the max during the first steps of the games, and then adopt a somewhat "lazy" rhythm when they are gaining enough money. After all, why should they go all the way if things are right as they are ?
Look at Mr.c "Corruption" : the content of updates are now sometimes ridiculous, way lighter than what they were at the start of the development.
And should I talk about Akabur ? The perfect example of someone milking his patreons with absolutly no contents ?

Well. MrDots is not as "lazy" as these other developers, far from it. But he has now assumed a slow pace with his updates, with no novelties at all (once again) in the games' mechanics or in the stories. And for someone who, you are saying, is working "constantly" on these games, I find it a bit difficult to swallow.

Why you don't complain same way in Milfy City?He is making even more money and posts an update once per 3 months.
Or you better ask why games like Death Stars,Dual Family and Malise and the Machine are still making so much money without even updates.Mr.Dots is one of the most honest here and it's realy not fair to complain that he is taking a month off.

 

[thanatos69]

What's the point of all this discussion? Another random guy telling top-tier devs how they should run their businesses. How original...

The thread was created to discuss about what happens in the game, not to whine about what the dev does or does not do with his time or money. Grow up, please. And if you don't like the game or the dev, just move on.

 

[pim0]

Which render

in her thread ??

DAUGHTER render

 

[bas]

@armion82 and @youpla - enough, please. Take it to PM. Thanks

 

[armion82]

Damn- I just realise that last time father saw Elena's boobs was back in 0.07.

Spoiler: Elena's boobs

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Despite the fact that we can have sex with her 4 times,her tits are always covered.Not to mention we always do it doggy style.Is that a hint who will be into bestiality

Spoiler: Sex with Elena

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[dailandemon]

really damn good game, i was hoping for a 3way with d and the friend but i suppose that will come in the future

 

[rogue886]

D & Elena are the only 2 paths I have kept open.
Hoping Elena makes it back to the MC & D in the next update

 

[RustyV]

DMD is still a great VN even after the Patreon drama that would have killed a lesser game.

 

[Jeff Steel]

I don't think I'm going out on a limb here by suggesting there is a quite a chasm between incest and interspecies-laced incest on the fetish-o-meter.

Probably not cool to judge - whatever floats your boat - but that seems to go a fair bit beyond merely 'taboo'. If for no other reason than the animal doesn't really have any agency in the situation. Whatever biological age you choose to ascribe to D in DMD, her inner monologue reveals someone who is actually relating to the situation in a fairly composed and mature fashion... might even argue she handles things better than F. Elena is also, shall we say, fairly well along, despite her physical appearance. She also shows herself to be much more emotionally secure than a child. And I think that's no small part of the appeal of this game for me, and why I'm generally not comfortable with depictions of really young looking girls in sexual situations. It gets really dicey really fast.

I also have no interest in reading the thoughts of a dog. Nor do I have any interest in watching dogs fuck, generally, so merely replacing one of the dogs in a tryst with a person doesn't really change the stakes for me.

But again, your mileage may (and apparently does!) vary. We're all here to fap.

lol, thoughts of a dog:

(What Elena coming at me with dildo? Ruh-Roh! Not worth Scooby snack!)

 

[Jeff Steel]

That is what bugs me. Not only for DMD, but also for many other incest games discussed on F95zone.
Guys are talking about romance, beautiful story, love, even art or whatever... But let's be honest : these games are just fap material with an extreme taboo fetish ! The problem is that there are so many games with incest at their core that people almost seem to believe that it's somewhat normal, that this fetish is just common.
Hell no ! It's ok to have fantasies about incest, not to cover our eyes with false pretexts like "love between two people", "beautiful story", "romance", etc...
And to those saying that Daughter's looks in DMD are just a graphic way to depict a 18 years old girl and nothing else, I'll say that I'm pretty sure that DMD had its success not only with the incestuous relationship as its core, but also with these girls looking like 14 yo schoolgirls. Let's get these things out of the game, and you have something with no originality and just pretty graphics (and a somewhat developed story). Look what happens with "Melody", the other game from the creators : its success is far less behind "Dating my daughter" because it has nothing really original : graphics are nice but girls are bland and uninteresting, no incest so no exciting taboos, etc...

I finally perfectly understand people saying that bestiality in DMD would destroy the story and their appeal for the game. But... if it's optional, it's not a problem, isn't it ? In DMD, we can already direct our daughter toward sharing, exhibitionism, bondage, and dirty talk, anal, and possibly a threesome relationship with Elena. But... all of these fetishes are optional and player CAN choose to let them happen or not. If for bestiality there is a warning from the father when the choice occurs, something like "Do I really want to see my daughter becoming more and more eager to do extreme things ?", with Yes/No choice, "NO" locking definitly bestiality from the next chapters of the story... then where is the problem ?

Like Longo McFap, I hope that these last petals of corruption will serve many purposes. Not for simply bringing anal = 1 petal, sex with Elena = 1 petal, cum inside without contraceptive = 1 petal. But for more "general" approach about the daughter's corruption, like 1 petal = ok to have sex with girls, 1 petal = ok to have sex in public, 1 petal = ok to dress and talk like a slut, 1 petal = ok to have bestiality, etc...
The best, overall, would be to have two routes where these petals will be used in totally different ways given the father's previous choice. But as the game is evolving right now (a visual novel with very little interactivity), I suppose it will never happen.

Anyway, if the authors can't read what we're talkiong about, I suppose that this discussion serves, alas, no purpose. I'd really like to have their two cents about this whole thing, though...

First, I disagree with you regarding Melody. In terms of story structure, character architecture, etc, it has way more originality than 95% OG the other games out there. If you are considering only physical sex actions done as originality, then you are right. But then a variety of sex actions In itself is not particularly creative and original - it is the weaving of them in as part of an organic character/plot driven story that makes them creative and original.

As for “success [of Melody] is far less behind [DMD]” - if you take f95 posts, then you are correct; if you take number of Patrons, then you are incorrect (though they had/have a difference of @ 200 Patrons I believe.)

As for MDots staff support in bestiality, one person discussed it with D (or hinted at it in a wishlist); there was discussion by another of it with Frank’s sister (kind of a punishment event); and I have been against it with D but okay with others. Have no idea where MDots stands on this as I never asked him.

I do know that (in this VN) incest has become SO much more normalized in this VN world compared to the real world. Take the male characters that have had more than one scene - three of them (MC, Jeff, and Olivia’s Dad) have hand incest. Add in that the only stated reason for a frowning on incest in this world is the view of society. There has not been, and probably won’t be, a discussion of genetic abnormalities in this VN as a reason against incest - imo in this world incest does not cause genetic issues. Instead, imo the societal issues revolve around the issue of parents being in a position of trust, so that incest with a daughter and a step or adopted daughter have the same weight.

We might still have beastiality yet, but I doubt it will be with D. D still has to work thru the following that have been hinted at through various means:

1 - anal
2 - rimming
3 - accept creampie - accept possible pregnancy
4 - marriage to MC
5 - threesome with Elena - Elena as housemate and MC’s sex partner
6 - accept Georgina/Jennifer as MC’s sex partners (and housemates, etc)
7 - accept swap with Margo
8 - whatever might come out of the hinted Rachel storyline
9 - whatever might come out of the Cassandra storyline
10 - whatever might come out of Martin storyline
11 - BDSM
12 - nude (and sexual) photography for someone other than MC

Given these probably have priority over D and incest, and the format is to work D thru each step in her character development, and DMD in this format is finite, imo D will not get to beastiality.

 

[Jeff Steel]

Yes you're right. But as regular the updates are (at least for Melody), I'm talking here about the contents of these updates. I personally think that someone working constantly on games like these ones should be able to propose updates a bit more consequents. Currently, there are close to no interactions, no branching, no new game mechanics, and in fact these updates are a bit short too (but maybe it's just me who think that way ?).

When I compare, for example, with what ICSTOR has done in more or less one month for the X-Mas addon of Milfy City... and that was just a bonus scenario ! Well, I think you see what I mean.


i'm not saying DMD is a bad game. And the same goes for Melody, even if I think it has no "uniqueness". But the games drag on and feel uninspired as the time goes on. MrDots should work a bit on the gameplay mechanics and the choices given to the players instead of going wityh the same formula at the same rythm since 2 years.

I think Milfy City is a great product, but it is not monthly. Then I don’t know if ICSTOR is realeasing product every month, like MDots is with the DMD/Melody combination. Does anyone else have information on this? Otherwise he has had releases with Milfy City as follows:

December 2018 episode
0.5 - November 2018
0.4 - June 2018
0.3 - May 2018
0.2 - March 2018
0.1 - February 2018

That being said - I have not followed that game on Patreon, so I don’t know how much release came in the subreleases, and I do know that the game is pretty robust in its releases by the amount of its copious release (pun intended).

In addition, MDots on the art/coding side is a one-man show. Perhaps ICSTOR is as well. Does anyone know if anyone in that group is credited with art/renders/coding beyond one person? (Btw, I’ve never downloaded the game but get all my Milfy updates from Turkvangogh off of Pornhub as it is so much quicker - so I’ve never seen the game’s credits)

I don’t envision DMD or Melody deviating off their current format or game mechanics. They should remain unified as to both products. The next product could deviate considerably - and maybe even dramatically - but that remains to be seen.

 

[Naughtynaughty]

I have been putting this game off for years now (no idea why) but I FINALLY started playing a couple days ago.
This game....I... I have a hard time putting it into words.
It's absolutely amazing.
I've only just finished Chapter 1 and I have already grown so fond (and protective) of D and I'm so in love with F&Ds relationship. I have no qualms about the incest, but I admit that I'm rather shocked that a game built around that taboo/fetish could be one of the most romantic things I've witnessed.

I know me, and know I could never go so far as to share her with another male character and I've even been desperately avoiding sharing and exhibition points (I'm incredibly territorial by nature. Even in games. The nudist beach was tough for me) but I do admit that I am intrigued by the idea of adding Elena to the mix if it's handled right.
I'm wondering, though, does starting the MFF route with Elena lead to HER giving D her first orgasm, or does F still get to do it?
As pleasing a women is my own personal goal, I found that scene to be the single most romantic and sweetest thing I experienced in CH1. And there were so, so many wonderful things that happened in said chapter.

I think Elena taking any of Ds first times/experiences would kill any motivation I have to pursue that route, but if things can remain romantic even with Elena in the mix, and if she doesn't steal precious moments away, like the first orgasm, then I will definitely give it a try.
Anyone want to fill me in on that without major spoilers?

 

[Kboy99]

I passed the first chapter on android. can I start chapter 2 on PC with the savefiles from android? If so, where do I put them?

I've tried pasting them in dmd2\game\saves , but the game says "the files from ch.1 couldnt be loaded". Help!