armion82

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so I was wondering....
there are so many games with Father and D
Is there any with Mother and D?

just wondering ... the only game I saw hinting this was High LIfe
Milf's Tale-sadly abandoned
The Red Room-probably,just started
High Life-also just started
Jessica O'Neil's Hard News or JOHN-it seems her mother will come in the game,but we are not sure that Stoper will like to add incest
A Wife and Mother or AWAM-we still have long way to go
The market for something like that is very very small. Is there one? Sure. But not bloody likely in a Patreon game.

Besides, that's just not what this game is, and I think it would turn far more people off than on.
Well this is not a Patreon game anyway:)
 
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Saraf

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On the contrary, I'd really like to see something like that included for the daughter.
In my opinion, the relationship with the daughter is waaay too linear until now. Romance is good, but I think it would be better to let the player choose how he would like to make this relationship evolve. After all, this is a "game" and not a movie.
Yeah you are thinking wrong,what you are asking for is impossible and whats more,never was the goal of the project(even if such an "unlimited c&c" approach was possible,which it is not and most certainly not in the form of a finite VN).

Many people here love "Dating my daughter" because of the romantical relationship between the father and the daughter, but too much romance can be a turnoff too for many other players. For example, the game was heavily criticized for his slow pacing : people were awaiting to see the daughter acting a bit more sexually and pushing the relationship forward.
Now that father and daughter have finally done their first sexual intercourse, I hope to see this relationship evolving into the extremes... or not ! Once again : let the players decide.
One way to royally fuck over your product is transforming it into something it wasnt concepted or advertised as.
DMD has always been character driven,meaning to validate such extreme character changes would need an equal amount of narrative backing.
What you are asking for is to either throw tons of resources away to support a minor fetish(likely alienating a part of your prior consumer base anyway because of its extremity,optional or not)or lowering the quality of the product by lowering its writing standards.
Also people complaining about the games pacing based on its rare release schedule has nothing to do with anything whatsoever.
Its a problem every story with splintered release dates has to face.
Whats important is the narrative´s pacing in its completed form and considering the chosen timeframe DMD absolutely made the right choice(maybe even going too fast).

I think that making the daughter slowly corrupted by extreme fetishes is heavily believable, as she is so eager to please her father that she will be willing to try anything in the end.
Yeah no,no its not.
F questions the morality of his relationship with D multiple times,going as far as trying to revert it back to a normal relationship at one point.
He has shown absolutely no willingness nor allusions to wanting to corrupt D(the complete opposite actually,trying to keep D as pure as possible while attempting to navigate through the circumstances fate dealt him).

Plus, she has already shown some signs of corruption with Elena under the shower when she was asking to be fingered. She also seems to become more and more interested in porn movies, and dirty talk. So, why can't we imagine that she will want to go further and further ?
Are you seriously equaling some light lesbianism(which completely originated from Elena at that)with beastiality?
Are you insane?

For the moment, the father doubts about this relationship with her daughter... but he has fucked her anyway, made her swallowing his sperm, and starts to stimulate her ass for anal penetration!
Yes and it is all painted in a romantic fashion not a fetishized one.
Did you somehow miss the whole swathes of narrative that deal with seeing D as a romantic partner instead of a family member?

And, if the player did the appropriate choices, he is also fucking her daughter's friends, asked Elena to "stimulate" a bit more the daughter into acting like a slut, and is working his way to mold her daughter into having some exhibitionist fetishes !
F screwing E is acknowledged by the story as circumstances and a bad choice on his part,not a corrupting action(fuck the story goes out of its way to bring it up as such,completely with F lambasting himself,how do you miss that?).
All actions with exhibitionistic conclusions are potrayed as attempts by F to make D more confident(hell wanting to model originated from D not F).
None of them are initiated as an attempt by F to corrupt D in any way,shape or form.

So, is it really impossible to imagine that he would like to go all the way and transform her daughter into a nasty slut able to have sex with dogs (or horses ?) if it pleases not only himself, but his daughter too ?
Yes it fucking is?
Maybe go ask your gf/wife/whatever to go fuck a dog and tell me how it went.
This is fucking ridiculous.


Once again, if two storylines can cohabitate, one with a romantic approach and another one where extreme fetishes are slowly transforming the daughter into a depraved sex addict... then, why not ??? Oh, and of course Elena could be a good choice to include bestiality, too. But the real interest in the game is, and I think we all share the same opinion, to see how the daughter is becoming.

I don't know if the authors are coming on this thread, but I'd really like to know if this bestyiality thing is still forecasted and what they are planning to do with it.
Plus, I think that it would be extremely disappointing if the father-daughter relationship stopped where all these relationships stop in 99% of the adult games : a little anal, some threesome with a female friend, maybe some pregnancy... and that's all. For once, I'd like to see a game who has guts and who goes all the way with extreme possibilities !

PS : I might add that since the game's updates are now rarer and rarer, I will not be able to endure a pacing as slow as it was previously. Now is the time, for the creators, to work a bit on new fetishes into the stories instead of pursuing this "I want to please my father but I'm so shy and innocent that I don't know if I must do that..." process that has lingered for too long !
This is...oh man sorry Im not even going to bother.
Let me say this,you will be sorely disappointed with the end product.
What you are looking for is a cheap nukige that doesnt care about its plot and characters as long as it can cram in as many fetishes as possible.

Im not at all against the fetish itself but the mental gymnastics you are going to to validate it are astounding.
 

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Yeah you are thinking wrong,what you are asking for is impossible and whats more,never was the goal of the project(even if such an "unlimited c&c" approach was possible,which it is not and most certainly not in the form of a finite VN).


One way to royally fuck over your product is transforming it into something it wasnt concepted or advertised as.
DMD has always been character driven,meaning to validate such extreme character changes would need an equal amount of narrative backing.
What you are asking for is to either throw tons of resources away to support a minor fetish(likely alienating a part of your prior consumer base anyway because of its extremity,optional or not)or lowering the quality of the product by lowering its writing standards.
Also people complaining about the games pacing based on its rare release schedule has nothing to do with anything whatsoever.
Its a problem every story with splintered release dates has to face.
Whats important is the narrative´s pacing in its completed form and considering the chosen timeframe DMD absolutely made the right choice(maybe even going too fast).


Yeah no,no its not.
F questions the morality of his relationship with D multiple times,going as far as trying to revert it back to a normal relationship at one point.
He has shown absolutely no willingness nor allusions to wanting to corrupt D(the complete opposite actually,trying to keep D as pure as possible while attempting to navigate through the circumstances fate dealt him).


Are you seriously equaling some light lesbianism(which completely originated from Elena at that)with beastiality?
Are you insane?


Yes and it is all painted in a romantic fashion not a fetishized one.
Did you somehow miss the whole swathes of narrative that deal with seeing D as a romantic partner instead of a family member?


F screwing E is acknowledged by the story as circumstances and a bad choice on his part,not a corrupting action(fuck the story goes out of its way to bring it up as such,completely with F lambasting himself,how do you miss that?).
All actions with exhibitionistic conclusions are potrayed as attempts by F to make D more confident(hell wanting to model originated from D not F).
None of them are initiated as an attempt by F to corrupt D in any way,shape or form.


Yes it fucking is?
Maybe go ask your gf/wife/whatever to go fuck a dog and tell me how it went.
This is fucking ridiculous.



This is...oh man sorry Im not even going to bother.
Let me say this,you will be sorely disappointed with the end product.
What you are looking for is a cheap nukige that doesnt care about its plot and characters as long as it can cram in as many fetishes as possible.

Im not at all against the fetish itself but the mental gymnastics you are going to to validate it are astounding.

Man, I will not go into a too much datailed answer as I don't want to dwell too much on the subject. We know how it will end : you'll stay on your position, and I'll stay on mine.

But let me just ask you one thing : you consider that adding bestiality would be obcene, when having incest and deflowering a 14 years old girl is totally ok ? (Yeah, 'cause let's face it : in no way the girl and her friends in DMD have 18 years old : this is just bullshit to bypass the laws...).

And to quote you and illustrate what I mean :
Maybe go ask your gf/wife/whatever to go fuck a dog and tell me how it went.
This is fucking ridiculous.
You're right. Instead, I will ask my wife if it's ok to fuck my 14 years old daughter, have a divorce, and live with her from now on...
See ? The story in DMD is already ridiculous and extreme... just as the bestiality fetish ! ;)

So please : quit the "oh man... i'm not even going to bother" thing : we all have our dark fetishes, and in no way your opinion is better than mine. And in no way you should act as condescendant as you are right now.
I'm ok with you giving your opinion and explaining why you're against mine, but I'm not when you're acting like a d**k.
 

mattius77

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I don't think I'm going out on a limb here by suggesting there is a quite a chasm between incest and interspecies-laced incest on the fetish-o-meter.

Probably not cool to judge - whatever floats your boat - but that seems to go a fair bit beyond merely 'taboo'. If for no other reason than the animal doesn't really have any agency in the situation. Whatever biological age you choose to ascribe to D in DMD, her inner monologue reveals someone who is actually relating to the situation in a fairly composed and mature fashion... might even argue she handles things better than F. Elena is also, shall we say, fairly well along, despite her physical appearance. She also shows herself to be much more emotionally secure than a child. And I think that's no small part of the appeal of this game for me, and why I'm generally not comfortable with depictions of really young looking girls in sexual situations. It gets really dicey really fast.

I also have no interest in reading the thoughts of a dog. Nor do I have any interest in watching dogs fuck, generally, so merely replacing one of the dogs in a tryst with a person doesn't really change the stakes for me.

But again, your mileage may (and apparently does!) vary. We're all here to fap.
 

Saraf

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Man, I will not go into a too much datailed answer as I don't want to dwell too much on the subject. We know how it will end : you'll stay on your position, and I'll stay on mine.

But let me just ask you one thing : you consider that adding bestiality would be obcene, when having incest and deflowering a 14 years old girl is totally ok ? (Yeah, 'cause let's face it : in no way the girl and her friends in DMD have 18 years old : this is just bullshit to bypass the laws...).
The hell are you talking about?
Im saying it doesnt fit the current narrative.
Also adding that age label is on you.
Just because you cant differentiate the narrative´s intended age from the visuals of a common store bought model doesnt mean the rest of the world cant.

And to quote you and illustrate what I mean :

You're right. Instead, I will ask my wife if it's ok to fuck my 14 years old daughter, have a divorce, and live with her from now on...
See ? The story in DMD is already ridiculous and extreme... just as the bestiality fetish ! ;)

So please : quit the "oh man... i'm not even going to bother" thing : we all have our dark fetishes, and in no way your opinion is better than mine. And in no way you should act as condescendant as you are right now.
I'm ok with you giving your opinion and explaining why you're against mine, but I'm not when you're acting like a d**k.
Wow deflecting your complete lack of common sense regarding basic storytelling with pedophilia allegations towards the entirety of DMD´s fanbase.
I dont see how that ever could go wrong.

Just to make this absolutely clear(on the off-chance that there is still some miscommunication here):
I never spoke out againt your fetish(in fact I supported it if you actually read that last paragraph of my post),all I ever stated(and countered your ridiculous mental acrobatics towards)is that its completely misplaced in a narrative that absolutely has shown no actions towards or interest in supporting it.
If my response sounded harsh it was solely because of the ridiculousness of your arguments.
Consider this my apology if it offended your sensibilities.

Though yes I agree,this is pointless and unlikely to lead anywhere(but not because I hold some kind of unmoveable stance I assure you).

I will repeat myself here:
What you are hoping for wont happen.
At most through the introduction of a completely new character and even that is really unlikely.
Look for a different game if you want fulfillment for such an extreme fetish,dont expect a already established narrative to bend towards it.
 

Saraf

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Hm dunno,depends on if and how her backstory turns out.
The story implies she was actually different in the past so finding out what changed her could be genuinely interesting if done well.
 
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Hm dunno,depends on if and how her backstory turns out.
The story implies she was actually different in the past so finding out what changed her could be genuinely interesting if done well.
Meh, doesn't excuse the way she's been towards others since. Until it's stated that F was a downright jerk/asshole and D was a little brat/bitch, she's got no excuse. Shit, she may have just been putting on an act and is now showing her true character. I just took a real dislike to her and usually I can find something to like in someone, not her.
 

Saraf

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Meh, doesn't excuse the way she's been towards others since. Until it's stated that F was a downright jerk/asshole and D was a little brat/bitch, she's got no excuse. Shit, she may have just been putting on an act and is now showing her true character. I just took a real dislike to her and usually I can find something to like in someone, not her.
Oh you are right on that,it absolutely doesnt.
More character introspective can lead to some unexpected sympathy though and with that willingness to accept a character´s redemption(admittedly it takes a lot more for me to consider a character irredemable so your mileage may vary).
 

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Hey everyone, it's been a while since the last time I played the game, and I want to re-start from the beginning, so if I download the ch1 file, I can just download the ch2 and start playing just like that?
 

fbass

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On the contrary, I'd really like to see something like that included for the daughter.
In my opinion, the relationship with the daughter is waaay too linear until now. Romance is good, but I think it would be better to let the player choose how he would like to make this relationship evolve. After all, this is a "game" and not a movie.
Many people here love "Dating my daughter" because of the romantical relationship between the father and the daughter, but too much romance can be a turnoff too for many other players. For example, the game was heavily criticized for his slow pacing : people were awaiting to see the daughter acting a bit more sexually and pushing the relationship forward.
Now that father and daughter have finally done their first sexual intercourse, I hope to see this relationship evolving into the extremes... or not ! Once again : let the players decide.

I think that making the daughter slowly corrupted by extreme fetishes is heavily believable, as she is so eager to please her father that she will be willing to try anything in the end. Plus, she has already shown some signs of corruption with Elena under the shower when she was asking to be fingered. She also seems to become more and more interested in porn movies, and dirty talk. So, why can't we imagine that she will want to go further and further ?
For the moment, the father doubts about this relationship with her daughter... but he has fucked her anyway, made her swallowing his sperm, and starts to stimulate her ass for anal penetration ! And, if the player did the appropriate choices, he is also fucking her daughter's friends, asked Elena to "stimulate" a bit more the daughter into acting like a slut, and is working his way to mold her daughter into having some exhibitionist fetishes ! So, is it really impossible to imagine that he would like to go all the way and transform her daughter into a nasty slut able to have sex with dogs (or horses ?) if it pleases not only himself, but his daughter too ?
Once again, if two storylines can cohabitate, one with a romantic approach and another one where extreme fetishes are slowly transforming the daughter into a depraved sex addict... then, why not ??? Oh, and of course Elena could be a good choice to include bestiality, too. But the real interest in the game is, and I think we all share the same opinion, to see how the daughter is becoming.

I don't know if the authors are coming on this thread, but I'd really like to know if this bestyiality thing is still forecasted and what they are planning to do with it.
Plus, I think that it would be extremely disappointing if the father-daughter relationship stopped where all these relationships stop in 99% of the adult games : a little anal, some threesome with a female friend, maybe some pregnancy... and that's all. For once, I'd like to see a game who has guts and who goes all the way with extreme possibilities !

PS : I might add that since the game's updates are now rarer and rarer, I will not be able to endure a pacing as slow as it was previously. Now is the time, for the creators, to work a bit on new fetishes into the stories instead of pursuing this "I want to please my father but I'm so shy and innocent that I don't know if I must do that..." process that has lingered for too long !
The market for something like that is very very small. Is there one? Sure. But not bloody likely in a Patreon game.

Besides, that's just not what this game is, and I think it would turn far more people off than on.
I agree it may never end up in the game but it was definitely listed as an optional future fetish when DMD was first released.
 
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RustyV

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I think its perfectly workable with one of the side characters or a new side character. Not really with D though. Maybe at the very end of chapter 3 if you take the harem route or something.
Yeah a side character maybe. Elena gets a job at the zoo.
Of course we will never know what the extent of the Chapter 3 plot line might have been.
"And they called it puppy love
Oh, I guess DMD fans'll never know "
 

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If I remember correctly there was a BDSM tag
will that be implemented anytime soon or implemented at all?

unlike beastality this is more of a mainstream fetish r8?

Well any of the tags he has the ability to add with side character events at any point he feels the need to. I think it was just a catch all attempt, clickbait to get you to try out the content. Obviously the main focus on the game is F/D route, hence the title. With two main routes, F/D pure for taboo romance, and F/D harem for fun (where all the fetishes put in as clickbait can find a place).
 
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