How can incest be seen as being about power ?
It's only in cheap incest stories that the MC force it on the others. But in this case, incest isn't the fetish of the game, but its background ; it's a corruption/hypno/whatever story taking place inside a family.
The incest fetish is about giving in to your uncontrollable and unconditional love ; possibly uncontrollable lust, but like it need to be a mutual feeling, it's more a side effect of the love than anything else. A story where you care more about the love you feel, than about anything else, including moral and the judgmental comments of others since it's incest, but it's far to be limited to this. It's yourself and your own life that you put in the background by placing the love you feel in the first place.
When you give in to your love in an incest story, it's not the other that you put in an uncomfortable place, it's yourself. You worry about what people will think of your lover, while not caring a single second what they'll think about you. You protect your lover while exposing yourself.
Where's the notion of power in this ?
Note that it's also a perfect example to show you how deeply you're wrong on your view over NTR players. Especially when you say that, since they are true NTR lovers, they want to be cucked in real life.
Do you really thing that true incest lovers want to bang all their family ? What would it say about you, the author of an incest game, if it was true ?
In fact it tend to be the opposite. Lovers of the incest fetish care and love their family so much that they wouldn't cross the line even if they had the possibility to do it, by fear that it will change this feeling, alter it in the wrong way.
The same error is made about rape fetish, that you always describe as a question of power, which isn't the case ; rape fetish isn't about power, but about control, which is different.
And anyway, what "rape fetish" are you talking about here ? It's a two sided fetish, there's those (equally male and female) who feel it as the rapist, and those (once again equally male and female) who feel it as the victim. For the later, rape is another way to loose control over the situation. There's those who love to loose it by doing submissively everything told to them (submissive fetish). Those who love to have it taken by force (rape victim fetish). Those who love to have it enforced on them (masochist). And so on.
In all cases, the "giver" is in position of control, which give him power over the situation, but a limited one. Limited because in all cases, the situation is the result of a consensual decision. One voluntarily gave to the other the power to control him,
but under his own conditions.
Why do you think that the BDSM scene have the notion of safe word ? It's because the "giver" is never the one that effectively control the situation, just the one that decide. At anytime the "receiver" can stop everything, just by saying a word.
There's no power in all those fetishes, just control. If it was a question of power, then it wouldn't be a fetish, but a twisted mind, at best, or a mental sickness, at worse.
And so ? There's many people of power, feared by everyone, that are also masochist or fully submissive once in the bedroom. It can come from a feeling of guilt, but mostly it's just how they like sexual encounters, and nothing more.
The fact that, during sex, what they want is to loose all control over the situation doesn't mean that it's how they are in all other situations. And there's absolutely nothing incoherent in the fact to be in control of everything all day long, then loose all control once it's question of sex.
It's not even reducing the subject to its minimal part, it's also denying everything about the reality of fetishism. You can't find a single fetish that have a single thing intrinsic to it, once you passed the name of the fetish itself.
Urology is about humiliation, which is far to be intrinsic to this fetish, therefore the only intrinsic part is piss.
Submission is about loosing control, which is far to be intrinsic to this fetish, therefore the only intrinsic part is submission.
Incest is about unconditional love, which is far to be intrinsic to this fetish, therefore the only intrinsic part is banging relatives.
It's even worse for SM, since even the name of the fetish isn't intrinsic to it. By example, the cheating fetish have a sadistic variation, while NTR have a voluntary suffering (and so masochist) variation.
And so on. Every single fetish is just a particular way to express/acquire/feel something that can be expressed/acquired/felt in other ways. And it's this way that trigger the desire, not what is expressed/acquired/felt.
But here the loop is complete and the discussion go around in circles. The only intrinsic part of NTR is being a weak cuck. That's what people who have the NTR fetish in real life want. What mater for them isn't to be humiliated or whatever else you want. No, what mater for them is to feel the humiliation (or whatever you want) of being a weak cuck.
But you explicitly refuse this as a valid reason, asking again and again for more intrinsic reasons that do not exist. Which just demonstrate that it's not just the NTR fetish that you misunderstood, but also what is a fetish.
You want to force rationality where there isn't a single once of it, in fetishes. But the fact is that fetishes are the exact opposite of phobias, and therefore stand outside of all rationality.
In top of that, you refuse to acknowledge that there's a different between liking a fetish, and having a fetish. The first one is about the liking of a genre of story, while the second one is about living a particular situation. And despite everything you say they are two totally different things.
Which fall back to what I said above. Since you're the author of an incest game, should we assume that you're banging your mother ?
Obviously, it's not what we do, we assume that you like this fetish, not have it. Like in fact you do yourself for every one writing an incest game, because you know for sure that they aren't necessarily incestuous in real life.
You apply to NTR reasoning that you don't apply to other fetishes, showing clearly that you aren't here to have your mind changed, but just to express your own disgust over NTR lovers.
Therefore, like
baka said, you're just here to judge, not to understand.
