VN Ren'Py Blurring the Walls [v0.5.2] [Torimiata]

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sasha12q1

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We all know that slut Ayumi is warming up and training for Terraza's big cock, the purpose of slow play is important for this reason, it's a training, she can't go from MC's small cock, to Terraza's mega, hahaha
A golden hair tanned macho with bazooka-dick vs pathethic micro penis MC. We have seeing it a thousand times. There is nothing new here. Its a BIG-BIG-BIG cliche. I bet that there will be unavoidable netorase->netorare stuff and golden boy will fuck all girls while pathetic MC will watch and cry or jerk off. All this is naive and predictable.
 

Miiiiiiiku

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it's crazy to me how much reassuring people need that ayumi and MC are secure in their relationship, are still in love, etc. this is a work of fiction - the dev can write two sentences and any transgression between the characters can be amended and forgiven. the dev has said repeatedly "this game will have a happy ending," i don't know what else he could possibly do to make everyone relax lol

it's crazy how much anxiety this genre generates in people. i'm begging you guys to chill out, enjoy the big titty anime girls, and jerk off... you'll feel better after ❤
Lots of thoughts here. Bare with me.

I think it started with me being a HUGE fan of MC and FMC's pillow talks. It's obvious she's doing all this for him and her feeling better from it herself and being able to explore herself is a bonus. I love those constant reminders from Ayumi that she wants MC to focus on her and she remembers that it's all for him. Makes me think while she does look like shes heading down the sloot route she knows whos bed she'll be in at the end and she seems like she has a switch she can turn on and off.

I think the corruption aspect is what kinda made me anxious. Especially considering Terrace's size and the fact that he's actually a trusted friend between the two. Dev has made it super clear in his writing that their bond is unbreakable and that Ayumi has no interest in losing what she has and MC trusts her with his life, but it does make me curious what Ayumi will be thinking about when her brain is scrambled once it finally happens and talking about it with the MC afterwards and how much it'll change her and him if any. Not to mention who will draw a line first since its a huge step to just let another dude screw your GF. It does make me nervous. Like how strong is her mental and how will MC react seeing Terrace fuck her brains out? I'm basically like MC at the beginning before the awakening. Where corruption is a huge fear. I definitely trust the dev, which is why I wonder how they'll write Ayumi...

It does make me remember some other posts on here saying size isn't everything and she seems like she's, while not the size of Terrace, been fucked before MC and all of this is for their own pleasure and it'll probably just be MORE teasing about it while being lovey dovey. Plus Dev is on the loving side like you mentioned.

TL;DR trying to channel MC's mindset and just trust her mental strength. Terrace is massive to the point where it makes me curious to think what the scene will look like. Not anxious but more curious how they'll make that work. They seem secure enough as a group and relationship that it shouldnt be that awkward, but how long will it continue after that? That's my biggest concern with sharing your GF especially with a close friend.

I'm still going to watch it to see this mastermind at work and if it's good I'll continue. You had no idea how fkn anxious I was to see Ayumi kiss Ari and almost Terrace. Then Terrace mentions "it's just a kiss for all Im concerned" makes me curious how they'll explain sex and how MC will absorb the scene.

Random thoughts. Before you say "dev can just rewrite them" or "it's just art" or "chill" I know lol doesnt make it any easier to watch but it does make me wonder since Im into the writing.
 
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WhiteFireDaemon

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I think the corruption aspect is what kinda made me anxious. Especially considering Terrace's size...
Usually these sort of games take the path of FMC turns into a size queen trope but it's always possible that it could go the other way. Ayumi might end up trying it out later and find that while Terracce's size is fun to try, it's a bit too big and she prefers someone like our MC who is a more comfortable size for her.
 

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Usually these sort of games take the path of FMC turns into a size queen trope but it's always possible that it could go the other way. Ayumi might end up trying it out later and find that while Terracce's size is fun to try, it's a bit too big and she prefers someone like our MC who is a more comfortable size for her.
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Dude. This is porn-game land. Your last sentence is absolutely correct and realistic in the real world, but never have I ever seen a porn game where an LI said anything of this sort. The whole concept of "everything in moderation" is kinda lost in this sphere - I mean that for dick sizes, cocky or aggressive attitudes, everything.

It would be super cool writing and a plot twist if it happened as you described, but I just don't see it ever going that way.

Actually I take that back, ALWL did it, so maybe we can see it here.
 
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Once Ayumi gets her pussy dilated by Terazza, there's no turning back, MC only has to give handjobs, fetishes come at a high price, hahah, cuckolds once, cuckolds forever,
 

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This game will have a cheating route in the future? As netorare have a lot of potential too :love: I ask because the sharing is not my thing hehe
 

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Usually these sort of games take the path of FMC turns into a size queen trope
And that's one of many things I'm struggling with atm. Obv the premise still revolves around sharing so its bound to happen. But thats kinda one of my fears. Either MC is a super secure chad or he's not aware what he's creating in Ayumi lol


Usually these sort of games take the path of FMC turns into a size queen trope but it's always possible that it could go the other way. Ayumi might end up trying it out later and find that while Terracce's size is fun to try, it's a bit too big and she prefers someone like our MC who is a more comfortable size for her.

And how do those games end? Lol

Do you think Ayumi will end up doing things without MC's consent eventually? And personally do you see her becoming a size queen based off what we have seen?

That's kind of my issue. Like how do I interpret something like that? I guess as long as Ayumi doesn't straight up fall it's still fine? That's where my curiousity lies because me being an NTS virgin Ive never seen these sort of things work especially if Terrace is a close friend. I could get Ayumi fucking other dudes but the fact that MC is small compared to Terrace and he's a good friend of theirs does make me nervous on testing Ayumi's mental strength. She almost makes me think she'll lose control due to the fun of it.

Like eventually Ayumi will just lose control right? She's starting to get corrupted. Thats why Im still intrigued with this. Eventually I see them having a line they cant cross or wont, but the progression seems to be moving along to where all thats left is Ayumi touches another dick or fucks one. Will she forget why she's doing this or start doing things without MC's consent?

I'll keep on the look out for the Terrace update. Witness corruption is probably my main struggle. This'll be interesting.
 
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NGL, some of ya'll are acting like being a size queen inherently makes you an immoral sociopath lmao. People have preferences that they compromise on IRL all the time. This isn't an outlandish concept. You think every dude who likes big tits is going to turn their nose up at a flatter woman? Make fun of her and/or refuse to love her just because of that? C'mon now.

Like, look, assuming the game even does take the whole "getting fucked by a bigger dick is inherently better and corrupts you into a size queen" porn logic angle (which I personally doubt, but w/e), why would this suddenly transform Ayumi into a bad person? Why would this cheapen anything? She can still be the same character as before, with slightly different preferences, and she can still love the MC just as much. Whether or not she enjoys sex with another partner more isn't some magical, evil switch point. In fact, it's kinda, y'know, a common part of the NTS fetish and its appeal.

Also, as a slight aside, the whole "corruption" element of this story (a label I still contest, but, again, w/e) has more to do with her getting into being slutty and having fun with the fetish than it does size queening. They're not antithetical to each other or anything, sure, but they're not in complete alignment and shouldn't be treated as synonymous.
 

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And that's one of many things I'm struggling with atm. Obv the premise still revolves around sharing so its bound to happen. But thats kinda one of my fears. Either MC is a super secure chad or he's not aware what he's creating in Ayumi lol

And how do those games end? Lol

Do you think Ayumi will end up doing things without MC's consent eventually? And personally do you see her becoming a size queen based off what we have seen?

That's kind of my issue. Like how do I interpret something like that? I guess as long as Ayumi doesn't straight up fall it's still fine? That's where my curiousity lies because me being an NTS virgin Ive never seen these sort of things work especially if Terrace is a close friend. I could get Ayumi fucking other dudes but the fact that MC is small compared to Terrace and he's a good friend of theirs does make me nervous on testing Ayumi's mental strength. She almost makes me think she'll lose control due to the fun of it.

Like eventually Ayumi will just lose control right? She's starting to get corrupted. Thats why Im still intrigued with this. Eventually I see them having a line they cant cross or wont, but the progression seems to be moving along to where all thats left is Ayumi touches another dick or fucks one. Will she forget why she's doing this or start doing things without MC's consent?

I'll keep on the look out for the Terrace update. Witness corruption is probably my main struggle. This'll be interesting.
As for whether or not Ayumi will be come a size queen, we can't possibly know at this point. Nothing in the game has suggested whether she will or won't and I'm not away of Torimiata having mentioned anything. The FMC becoming a size queen is just one of those kinks that tends to correlate with NTR and cheating sort of games. That doesn't necessarily mean that it will happen in this game however and from the tone Torimiata has given when describing the future of this game, I don't think it'll ever be something along the lines of "omg, his monster cock is so much better than yours and I no longer love you!" I suspect at most, Ayumi will like sex with Terracce, but since we know the game is going to have a happy ending, I think that even if she does like it, she's going to love the MC more than she could ever love big cocks. My only thought in regards to the size queen stuff was that since it's usually a common aspect of NTR games and that this game has such a different kind of tone from that, then it would be kind of a cool sort of thing if Torimiata surprised us with Ayumi not being a size queen and preferring MC's smaller, more reasonable size. It would be a bit more realistic since women do in fact have trouble dealing with too big of a cock as it can be too painful.

Yes, I know porn tends to ramp up things to crazy situations a lot of times, but I would honestly be surprised if we got anything along the lines of Ayumi humiliating the MC about his penis size or even her going and having any kind of sexual contact without his blessing. I could see her possibly doing something if a moment came up, but I expect it'd be after she talked about the possibility with the MC first to get his permission and that he'd be told all about it after the fact. This game is a netorase game, not a netorare. It's just tagged netorare because everything gets lumped under the one umbrella.

Just remember that this game is about sharing Ayumi for the MC's pleasure, it's not a cheating game. If you're fine with a FMC having sex with other guys then I think you'll be fine. Both Ayumi and Terracce have already shown that they definitely don't want to do anything that will hurt the MC. Everyone should lose some inhibitions along the way and find new exciting things to experiment with sexually. I'm not sure what you mean by witness corruption, but it would probably be better to think of MC and Ayumi becoming more sexually liberated rather than corrupted. They're not really losing any kind of morals or love for each other really, just trying to push their limits a bit to see what new things they might like doing. It's kind of like a couple trying out public sex or anal, but in this case, they're experimenting with teasing, exhibitionism/voyeurism, and sharing.
 

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NGL, some of ya'll are acting like being a size queen inherently makes you an immoral sociopath lmao. People have preferences that they compromise on IRL all the time. This isn't an outlandish concept. You think every dude who likes big tits is going to turn their nose up at a flatter woman? Make fun of her and/or refuse to love her just because of that? C'mon now.

Like, look, assuming the game even does take the whole "getting fucked by a bigger dick is inherently better and corrupts you into a size queen" porn logic angle (which I personally doubt, but w/e), why would this suddenly transform Ayumi into a bad person? Why would this cheapen anything? She can still be the same character as before, with slightly different preferences, and she can still love the MC just as much. Whether or not she enjoys sex with another partner more isn't some magical, evil switch point. In fact, it's kinda, y'know, a common part of the NTS fetish and its appeal.

Also, as a slight aside, the whole "corruption" element of this story (a label I still contest, but, again, w/e) has more to do with her getting into being slutty and having fun with the fetish than it does size queening. They're not antithetical to each other or anything, sure, but they're not in complete alignment and shouldn't be treated as synonymous.
gamers when an anime waifu says she likes big dicks:
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There's two things going on simultaneously here.

One is the recognition of the existing trope in avns for a girl to be utterly wooed by a big dick, disregarding everything else and that becoming the sole motivator in her interactions. That's not an unreasonable to think given how common it is in avn writing. I hope this game doesn't become that. (dont mind the size queen, do mind the implication it would make her treat the bf worse).

The second is the many players who reinforce this trope; saying things like "once she gets fucked by a big dick, she'll forget all about her boyfriend" (said with a tiny bit of drool at the corner of their mouth). On the surface they seem scornful of the idea, but it's said in a "doth protest too much" way that makes me think they actually find the idea titillating.

I don't, that silly ntr trope has been done to death. What I DO think would be hot is if Ayumi ends up craving action with big dicks, but not at the cost of her relationship; i.e. she gets actively turned on by terrace but always wants to do stuff with him in the context of including her bf.
 

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Being a size queen on it's own isn't, but when it comes to NTR games, it's usually part of a SPH kink that adds to cuckold and cheating fetishes which is where people tend to have a problem with it.
NTR to NTS magic wand fix: torimiata writes a line of dialogue that shows MC likes being humiliated for his small penis

boom, like magic, it's now a consensual NTS fetish! see how easy that was?

but the fact of the matter is, all the NTR vs NTS border patrolling in this thread isn't because people are worried about the sanctity of ayumi and kento's relationship, it's because the posters on f95 are fragile, insecure dorks who self-insert, and take any small-penis humiliation personally

the insecure people DO NOT WANT these elements included in the game, so they are disguising their insecurities as critiques, hoping to kick up enough dust to scare the dev off including them
 
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NTR to NTS magic wand fix: torimiata writes a line of dialogue that shows MC likes being humiliated for his small penis

boom, like magic, it's now a consensual NTS fetish! see how easy that was?

but the fact of the matter is, all the NTR vs NTS border patrolling in this thread isn't because people are worried about the sanctity of ayumi and kento's relationship, it's because the posters on f95 are fragile, insecure dorks who self-insert, and take any small-penis humiliation personally

the insecure people DO NOT WANT these elements included in the game, so they are disguising their insecurities as critiques, hoping to kick up enough dust to scare the dev off including them
People not wanting to see it in games isn't necessarily due to an insecurity. It might just be due to preferred tone in a game. SPH is a degradation kink meaning that the guy gets disrespected by his girl. It's not exactly the most healthy thing for a relationship and is counter to the idea that most men want to be respected by their wife/girlfriend. Also, the difference between NTR and NTS really has nothing to do with the existence of a humiliation kink. That could be or not be in either and not change anything. The difference between them is consent, and it's been made clear that this game will be about consensually sharing and not about cheating.
 

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It might just be due to preferred tone in a game.
So much this. I have a wide latitude of behaviors I accept from gfs in games, as long as they're done in the context and in service of the existing relationship. This is why I dislike games like LTNI or Holding hands. They insist the LIs are doing these things in the context of a relationship, but it sure feels like they'd be doing them anyway, boyfriend or not.
 

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It might just be due to preferred tone in a game.
then i wish people would just be honest and say "this doesn't turn me on" instead of trying to rationalize their preferences by making them seem empirical, like this:

SPH is a degradation kink meaning that the guy gets disrespected by his girl. It's not exactly the most healthy thing for a relationship and is counter to the idea that most men want to be respected by their wife/girlfriend
bringing up what is or isn't healthy in real relationships is completely irrelevant. this is a fake story and the author can make any character consent and enjoy anything. constantly applying real life rules to it is just a way to say "actually my preferences aren't mere preferences, they're actually A Law Of Nature and inherent to humankind"
 

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then i wish people would just be honest and say "this doesn't turn me on" instead of trying to rationalize their preferences by making them seem empirical, like this:



bringing up what is or isn't healthy in real relationships is completely irrelevant. this is a fake story and the author can make any character consent and enjoy anything. constantly applying real life rules to it is just a way to say "actually my preferences aren't mere preferences, they're actually A Law Of Nature and inherent to humankind"
That's probably a fair criticism, though if we got rid of that, half the posts on the forums would disappear :LOL:

I mean 80% of game discussion could be reduced to "This turns me on" or "This doesnt turn me on" - but we get this idea that couching an opinion in 'objective-sounding wrapping' makes it more legitimate. Unfortunately the broader forum culture incentivizes this - more blunt posts tend to get reported or ignored, so we take turns with mealy-mouthed language to advance our preferences.
 

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bringing up what is or isn't healthy in real relationships is completely irrelevant. this is a fake story and the author can make any character consent and enjoy anything. constantly applying real life rules to it is just a way to say "actually my preferences aren't mere preferences, they're actually A Law Of Nature and inherent to humankind"
A dev can indeed write any kind of story they want and make it as unrealistic as they want, but there's a fine line with suspension of disbelief. At a certain point, the story asks the audience to excuse one too many leaps of logic and they lose interest. While a story could charge forward without concern for what is healthy in real relationships, trying to instead write a story that is more realistic makes a more immersive story that can be more easily enjoyed by the audience. It's a matter of dancing on the edge of what is an interesting escape into fiction versus maintaining a logical set of world rules that keep the story engaging. While the writing is definitely good enough that I'd enjoy the story either way, I really really like that this story won't be going down the typical path of shitting all over the mc as the girl becomes a slut with at best no consideration for her boyfriend/husband.
 
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