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Well looks like the "who's story you're more interested in" poll reflects the favorite charcter poll very well lol
 
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The new mod scenes are done! There's 7 of them in three main quests, and there's some animation as well.
Try it and let me know what you guys think. Here's how to trigger the quests:

New custom events/scenes:
  • Quest #1: The goth girl is jealous of you and Ashley, and has something planned to get you to notice her. Complete Ashley's story then choose "Talk" at her door to start Juliet's quest.
  • Quest #2: Emma wants you to take her to the beach. She will come to your room when the twins are level 14 or higher.
  • Quest #3: Autumn has been having some naughty dreams lately. Maybe you can take advantage of this somehow? Complete Autumn's story to begin her scenes.

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@joethebeast Thanks for the review.

Could you tell me which animations exactly you're saying are bad? Some need to be in 3 frames, or just deleted entirely, as they can't be in more frames, but others may be able to get more frames. Either way, I would love to know the list of animations you noticed are bad.
Kali: BJ, Boobjob, Thighjob
Lin: Wake up BJ; Handjob; Anal
Android: Wake up HJ; Boobjob
Shower scenes: Lin, Kali, Maria

But why the 3 frame limit? :unsure:

I guess Android's face is fairly subjective... But how could you call this qt ugly :cry:

In any case, I have no idea where you got "She hides her face because she's ugly" from. In her story, she states she hides her mouth because it's a sexual organ, since she's sort of a sex doll.
Totally subjective. I liked her only because of her body, good job there!
I noticed that in your poll she figured in 2nd least liked character (only after ashley). But why? Maybe her personality, maybe her story, maybe her face? I can't answer for others, only give my personal opinion. I hope you don't get offended because she's your creation, and stuff like that...
But I was only being silly when I said that she hides her face for that reason :)

How do you mean "The game fails to let you know which scenes you haven't unlocked"? Like, a counter to the story events? It lets you know when you end each characters story as of the current update. Or do you mean other events, like training events? It lists all the training options you have once you begin training. Either way, I am very curious about what your thoughts are on this. Would love to get a more in depth response.
I feel kind of lost in this game. I don't really know if I unlocked everything or not... For example, how do i know if there is a shower scene for Felicity, Emma and Autumn in game? There should be a "character progression" or something like the lain's mod to help the player out. Maybe use the PC to view a gallery of events? It can be fun to figure out how to unlock the content, but I don't always know there if there is something more.
 
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Kali: BJ, Boobjob, Thighjob
Lin: Wake up BJ; Handjob; Anal
Android: Wake up HJ; Boobjob
Shower scenes: Lin, Kali, Maria

But why the 3 frame limit? :unsure:
Three frames isn't specifically the limit. Under 3 and it would look terrible, so it's basically a minimum of 3 and it depends on how much work I want to do.

In the animations you see that have three frames, I move every part of the girl's body manually, like stop motion animations. 3 frames takes me 30 minutes to an hour. However, you wouldn't guess it from just seeing it, but all the smooth animations (21 frames +) actually take me 5 minutes. This is because I started using Honey Selects pre built animations, and use some voodoo magic to turn them into frames. I don't take them in videos, but that's another discussion I don't want to get into.

So, this means, in cases where the pre built animations aren't in the game, I have to make them myself. Android's handjob animation when she wakes you up as an alarm is one I made frame by frame, and took quite a long time to do. I couldn't do that any other way, it's just not possible. (Unless I want to spend over 30 hours making one animation)

You may not understand why these things are like this for many reasons (not meaning to offend you, honey select is just vastly different from programs like Blender for example), but in every case possible, I will make the animations smoother.

All of Kali's animations I can make better for sure, and definitely plan to.

I can definitely make Lin's Handjob and Anal animations (I didn't even know her anal animation wasn't in 21 frames, oops) much smoother, and definitely plan to. But her wake up BJ is impossible, unless I want to change that animation entirely (Would you prefer I change the animation and make it smooth? Or keep the animation and keep the 3 frames?)

The two Android animations are also impossible to make smoother (I say impossible, but I mean I'll never do it because of the insane amount of work it requires).

All of those shower scenes, I can definitely smooth out.

I very much would like your opinion though. Would you prefer I change the animation and make it smooth to the ones I can't make smoother? Or keep the animation and keep the 3 frames?

Totally subjective. I liked her only because of her body, good job there!
I noticed that in your poll she figured in 2nd least liked character (only after ashley). But why? Maybe her personality, maybe her story, maybe her face? I can't answer for others, only give my personal opinion. I hope you don't get offended because she's your creation, and stuff like that...
But I was only being silly when I said that she hides her face for that reason :)
That poll isn't about most/least liked character. That's specifically about the characters story. Autumn polled least liked in general, but fairly highly in people interested in her story.

Android polls equally to Maria, and higher than Felicity and Autumn on which character is your favorite (only choose one). So this is a story issue, and I'm not quite sure why people aren't that excited about Android's story. I can understand Ashley since a lot of people dislike her craziness, but I am curious why people aren't interested in Android's story.

I feel kind of lost in this game. I don't really know if I unlocked everything or not... For example, how do i know if there is a shower scene for Felicity, Emma and Autumn in game? There should be a "character progression" or something like the lain's mod to help the player out. Maybe use the PC to view a gallery of events? It can be fun to figure out how to unlock the content, but I don't always know there if there is something more.
I sort of see that as a good thing. A sense of wonder is amazing for a game, and I'm not too keen on being told I have to do X/X events to finish the game. I don't even like being told what chapter/part I'm on in video games. You are able to view a gallery of events through the Gallery. It's on the same screen where you save your game. Events that are placed there are the most important events of that characters story, and or sex scenes/animation you can only see in that event.

You can always check the patch notes to see what's included, but I honestly don't expect anyone to go back and review all the patch notes, that's just insane. I suppose for a new player, they're not going to know Felicity & Emma are new characters and they don't have all the bells and whistles the other characters have. But, that's why it's labeled v0.5, and not v1.5. The game is in a beta state so not all the bells and whistles are implemented. I would even go so far as to say Harem Hotel is in a demo state, there are a ton of mechanics and characters that just aren't implemented yet. Even the early game will get changed and added on to, like new story events between already made story events.
 

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I don't really want to go back and redo the story for the 2% of people who finished the Twin's story before they started Ashley's, it's just work I could allocate into a new event. I think it's fairly obvious to a player that you're supposed to play through Ashley's story, and if you don't want to, that's fine. But you should expect a little bit of inconsistency if you skip things.
It's not really about skipping Ash's story; since you only meet them fairly late in Ash's story, simply playing both stories together will likely result in issues.
 
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Three frames isn't specifically the limit. Under 3 and it would look terrible, so it's basically a minimum of 3 and it depends on how much work I want to do.

In the animations you see that have three frames, I move every part of the girl's body manually, like stop motion animations. 3 frames takes me 30 minutes to an hour. However, you wouldn't guess it from just seeing it, but all the smooth animations (21 frames +) actually take me 5 minutes. This is because I started using Honey Selects pre built animations, and use some voodoo magic to turn them into frames. I don't take them in videos, but that's another discussion I don't want to get into.

So, this means, in cases where the pre built animations aren't in the game, I have to make them myself. Android's handjob animation when she wakes you up as an alarm is one I made frame by frame, and took quite a long time to do. I couldn't do that any other way, it's just not possible. (Unless I want to spend over 30 hours making one animation)

You may not understand why these things are like this for many reasons (not meaning to offend you, honey select is just vastly different from programs like Blender for example), but in every case possible, I will make the animations smoother.
I don't know if you've come accross it before but there is a mod to make custom animations in studio neo. I've used it a bit and it takes some getting used to but you don't have to move each body part seperately.




If you don't mind me asking, what do you use to turn the animations into frames?
 
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I don't know if you've come accross it before but there is a mod to make custom animations in studio neo. I've used it a bit and it takes some getting used to but you don't have to move each body part seperately.




If you don't mind me asking, what do you use to turn the animations into frames?
I've messed around with what that video is showing off. It's very bad... I can make a characters arm go in any direction, but... Well, it's not meant for character animations, more like object animations, such as a bouncing ball.

I've actually never seen that mod before, I may have to look into that.

I had a custom mod made for me that I've shared with two people. Jikei(Mythic Manor) and Lykanz(The Inn). It simply pauses all animation, then skips a few frames with a click of a button, which essentially allows you to take pictures of an animation and compile it into a smooth animation. This also accounts for breast physics, making breast physics fantastic.
 

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I've messed around with what that video is showing off. It's very bad... I can make a characters arm go in any direction, but... Well, it's not meant for character animations, more like object animations, such as a bouncing ball.

I've actually never seen that mod before, I may have to look into that.
The mod is the same one in the video so if you've tried those animations before I'm not sure if it's any different.
 
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Three frames isn't specifically the limit. Under 3 and it would look terrible, so it's basically a minimum of 3 and it depends on how much work I want to do.

In the animations you see that have three frames, I move every part of the girl's body manually, like stop motion animations. 3 frames takes me 30 minutes to an hour. However, you wouldn't guess it from just seeing it, but all the smooth animations (21 frames +) actually take me 5 minutes. This is because I started using Honey Selects pre built animations, and use some voodoo magic to turn them into frames. I don't take them in videos, but that's another discussion I don't want to get into.

So, this means, in cases where the pre built animations aren't in the game, I have to make them myself. Android's handjob animation when she wakes you up as an alarm is one I made frame by frame, and took quite a long time to do. I couldn't do that any other way, it's just not possible. (Unless I want to spend over 30 hours making one animation)

You may not understand why these things are like this for many reasons (not meaning to offend you, honey select is just vastly different from programs like Blender for example), but in every case possible, I will make the animations smoother.

All of Kali's animations I can make better for sure, and definitely plan to.

I can definitely make Lin's Handjob and Anal animations (I didn't even know her anal animation wasn't in 21 frames, oops) much smoother, and definitely plan to. But her wake up BJ is impossible, unless I want to change that animation entirely (Would you prefer I change the animation and make it smooth? Or keep the animation and keep the 3 frames?)

The two Android animations are also impossible to make smoother (I say impossible, but I mean I'll never do it because of the insane amount of work it requires).

All of those shower scenes, I can definitely smooth out.

I very much would like your opinion though. Would you prefer I change the animation and make it smooth to the ones I can't make smoother? Or keep the animation and keep the 3 frames?



That poll isn't about most/least liked character. That's specifically about the characters story. Autumn polled least liked in general, but fairly highly in people interested in her story.

Android polls equally to Maria, and higher than Felicity and Autumn on which character is your favorite (only choose one). So this is a story issue, and I'm not quite sure why people aren't that excited about Android's story. I can understand Ashley since a lot of people dislike her craziness, but I am curious why people aren't interested in Android's story.



I sort of see that as a good thing. A sense of wonder is amazing for a game, and I'm not too keen on being told I have to do X/X events to finish the game. I don't even like being told what chapter/part I'm on in video games. You are able to view a gallery of events through the Gallery. It's on the same screen where you save your game. Events that are placed there are the most important events of that characters story, and or sex scenes/animation you can only see in that event.

You can always check the patch notes to see what's included, but I honestly don't expect anyone to go back and review all the patch notes, that's just insane. I suppose for a new player, they're not going to know Felicity & Emma are new characters and they don't have all the bells and whistles the other characters have. But, that's why it's labeled v0.5, and not v1.5. The game is in a beta state so not all the bells and whistles are implemented. I would even go so far as to say Harem Hotel is in a demo state, there are a ton of mechanics and characters that just aren't implemented yet. Even the early game will get changed and added on to, like new story events between already made story events.
As for Lin's alarm clock bj, smooth animations would be nice, as long as we can still see that adorable face looking up at us. But I understand if you don't want to go to the effort, and it is one of my favorite things to see, it is very sweet and sexy.
Android's HJ is a bit lacking, but since it's short it goes by quickly, so not a big deal.
This not a big deal either way really, and I can't speak for anyone else here, but they were the animations I saw more than any others, so there is something to be said for them being nice. From the time I unlocked it I had her doing it every day until the day Ashley started to attacking people and I learned that I could have Anne(the Android), take her place. I will keep her as my bodyguard until this whole mess with the crazy girl is over. :ROFLMAO: It's a tough call, it really is, but as long as I can see Lin's cute little face looking up at me, then I will be happy.

I am still new to HS, and have barely touched NEO, so I only have a rough idea of how some of it works, so I can't speak too much on that yet, but that is interesting to know.

As for Autumn, at first I was attracted to her look (I love redheads, almost as much as unnatural colors like purple, pink, and blue), and then I got mixed feelings about her personality, having issues with religious types in general (though they can be fun to corrupt) but I like how she at least tries to be nice to everyone and fails, it's cute racism (that we need to cure), but the more I think about her, the more I want to know if my wild and crazy hunches are true. :p

I like Anne (Android) quite a bit, and I very much look forward to her award winning blow jobs! ;) but I guess it is too close to mind control, as she is programmed to serve/service us, even if we really did have to earn her dedication like anyone else. It is not so much that I am not interested in her, but the others just have more of a draw, Kali and her sister are gorgeous, and I want a 3way with them. :devilish: At least not having actual family (like a mom and a sister) for him to go after, you are less likely to get stuck in a rut like some games on polls, and have certain people who win every one they are on.

I generally try not to read the patch notes, unless I have an issue, I figure the fact that you tell us when we have reached the end of each story for the current version, makes for a pretty good sign that I am done with that girl aside from any grinding left to do. ;)

I look forward to seeing where you take this next, no matter who you work on.

How did I not see that gallery button? :sneaky::ROFLMAO: Sometimes being dyslexic is a real issue...

...Oh, that thing with Lin dying her hair, I assume both options have her change it back (I told her no blond for you! I like her natural hair much better, even if the new style was nice), but I am guessing the way these are done, that it would be way too much work to keep both options. That is one advantage of using the paper-doll sprite option, oh well, it would have been nice to have the option to let Ashley keep her blond hair for everyone who likes it, and allow those of us who don't to change it back. ;) But other than doing two renders for every scene she is in, I can't see any good way to do that for this style.
 
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As for Lin's alarm clock bj, smooth animations would be nice, as long as we can still see that adorable face looking up at us. But I understand if you don't want to go to the effort, and it is one of my favorite things to see, it is very sweet and sexy.
Android's HJ is a bit lacking, but since it's short it goes by quickly, so not a big deal.
This not a big deal either way really, and I can't speak for anyone else here, but they were the animations I saw more than any others, so there is something to be said for them being nice. From the time I unlocked it I had her doing it every day until the day Ashley started to attacking people and I learned that I could have Anne(the Android), take her place. I will keep her as my bodyguard until this whole mess with the crazy girl is over. :ROFLMAO: It's a tough call, it really is, but as long as I can see Lin's cute little face looking up at me, then I will be happy.
Those are the animations you see most? Hm, I think this may be true for others as well. As a developer, I really don't know how people play the game, or what they do in general in the game, that's what the recent survey was for. But I think I will update the animations for the alarms. Although it will likely be completely different than what it is now.

Do you have any other information that could be useful to me? Such as how you play the game in general.

As for Autumn, at first I was attracted to her look (I love redheads, almost as much as unnatural colors like purple, pink, and blue), and then I got mixed feelings about her personality, having issues with religious types in general (though they can be fun to corrupt) but I like how she at least tries to be nice to everyone and fails, it's cute racism (that we need to cure), but the more I think about her, the more I want to know if my wild and crazy hunches are true. :p
Yes, I know people don't really like her personality, and that's very much intentional. Rags to riches is the most popular form of storytelling. So to boil it down, I write characters in their most flawed state at the beginning of their story, but try to provide cracks and glimpses of what they will turn out to be. Autumn is stuck in her ways, but she is very caring and nice to everyone. She knows her beliefs aren't popular, so she tries to avoid the subject, but at the same time, it dictates how she acts.

This is slightly different for Ashley, as I wanted a crazy girl to fill the yandere niche. I like to think the stories I make are very heartwarming, and as you can clearly tell, Ashley isn't very heartwarming. She's definitely dedicated, but not heartwarming. And recently, you've likely seen the cracks I've been talking about. She mentions a 'mask' when she doesn't have any makeup with her brown hair. If you're clever enough, you could tell she's faking everything. The brown hair, lack of makeup, everything, was meant to signify her mask behind left behind in that event. In the recent two events as of v0.5, you can almost see that, yes, she put back her mask on, but it's as if she didn't put it on correctly. In the most recent two events, you can see Ashley act differently when nobody is there to see her, and even in her spy cam scenes, she talks about herself in a poor light. These things are very subtle, though.

:devilish: At least not having actual family (like a mom and a sister) for him to go after, you are less likely to get stuck in a rut like some games on polls, and have certain people who win every one they are on.
Could you explain this a bit more? I don't understand what you mean.


I generally try not to read the patch notes, unless I have an issue, I figure the fact that you tell us when we have reached the end of each story for the current version, makes for a pretty good sign that I am done with that girl aside from any grinding left to do. ;)
I don't think training is grindy, is it? Each option provides unique scenes I think everyone who enjoys those specific themes are going to like, and possibly revisit. I specifically mention that their story has been finished, and not everything to do with them, because there are a lot of things to do with them outside of story. There's a lot of 'roll of the dice' events that go down.


...Oh, that thing with Lin dying her hair, I assume both options have her change it back (I told her no blond for you! I like her natural hair much better, even if the new style was nice), but I am guessing the way these are done, that it would be way too much work to keep both options. That is one advantage of using the paper-doll sprite option, oh well, it would have been nice to have the option to let Ashley keep her blond hair for everyone who likes it, and allow those of us who don't to change it back. ;) But other than doing two renders for every scene she is in, I can't see any good way to do that for this style.
I've explained this in detail before, but any amount of customization will never happen. Long story short, if I were to give each girl 1 alternate thing, just anything about them you could change, I could get that done in 6 months to a year, simply because the game isn't made in sprites. And that update would only be able those customizations, it's an insane amount of work. I do however want to make my next game in sprites so customization is an option.
 

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Those are the animations you see most? Hm, I think this may be true for others as well. As a developer, I really don't know how people play the game, or what they do in general in the game, that's what the recent survey was for. But I think I will update the animations for the alarms. Although it will likely be completely different than what it is now.

Do you have any other information that could be useful to me? Such as how you play the game in general.
Let's see, This might take some time... let me think a min.
As for those, I set her to wake me up, and since it was basically a free BJ and slut point, and adorable, I left it go, as I said, until I had the option to work on Android. I will set her back once the threat of Ashley is over. (I wouldn't want Lin to get hurt because she was sleeping next to me when the crazy girl breaks in).

Let's see, once I loaded the new version, it took me a while to work out a habit, but now I go to the kitchen and work on Lin's obedience (head pat and spank if I need the points) because they do not pass time. Then I run around and look to see where everyone is (who is hanging out where), and decide who I will work on for that shift, and go do that, do the same thing at noon for Android, and repeat.

I normally like to work on one girl at time, but in here, it's designed to spread that out a bit more, since some people are only home at some times, or some days, so I do a bit here and a bit there. Spread that love around. :love:

I do something with another girl in the evening, and then go back to spy on the girls at night. I never did see Ashley talking on cam, other than the occasional time when she is in the alternate outfits, saying something about how I like to see her wear it, but I assume I just haven't gotten that far with her. I think I missed out on part of her class, since I never got the 'E' riddle.

I try to get at least a 13 in every skill, though I am not into feet, so I ignore those, and there is no 'thigh-master' trait yet, so I didn't worry about the thigh jobs skill either. I love the Exhibition scenes, those are generally my favorites.

Sometimes I will grind the same event over and over, and other times I will try to break it up to be less dull. (No matter how sexy a scene is, doing it so many times in a row get's old if it's the same each time). I am not sure what else to say about it, but if you have any questions, I will do my best to answer them.

Yes, I know people don't really like her personality, and that's very much intentional. Rags to riches is the most popular form of storytelling. So to boil it down, I write characters in their most flawed state at the beginning of their story, but try to provide cracks and glimpses of what they will turn out to be. Autumn is stuck in her ways, but she is very caring and nice to everyone. She knows her beliefs aren't popular, so she tries to avoid the subject, but at the same time, it dictates how she acts.
I completely agree with you on the 'flawed' characters, it makes them far more interesting, more relatable. It compels you to want to 'fix' them, and gives you a goal.

I admit, the religious aspect was a bit off putting at first, as was her rudeness, but I figured that was what you have in mind, and I can see a lot of potential in her, not only her character, but also what her story can tell us abut the history of the world itself. I already learned a lot in the few conversions we had with her, and I am eager for more lore. The anal beads and lube were bloody hilarious! I cannot WAIT to see her use them! (I still think her mom was an elf). :p

This is slightly different for Ashley, as I wanted a crazy girl to fill the yandere niche. I like to think the stories I make are very heartwarming, and as you can clearly tell, Ashley isn't very heartwarming. She's definitely dedicated, but not heartwarming. And recently, you've likely seen the cracks I've been talking about. She mentions a 'mask' when she doesn't have any makeup with her brown hair. If you're clever enough, you could tell she's faking everything. The brown hair, lack of makeup, everything, was meant to signify her mask behind left behind in that event. In the recent two events as of v0.5, you can almost see that, yes, she put back her mask on, but it's as if she didn't put it on correctly. In the most recent two events, you can see Ashley act differently when nobody is there to see her, and even in her spy cam scenes, she talks about herself in a poor light. These things are very subtle, though.
I am only up to a 20 Friendship for her (19 for Maria), so I haven't seen it all yet, but I have gotten pretty far.

I like dedicated, and even some who push it pretty far, I have even forgiven some yandere characters for physical attacks (such as Anna from Shimoneta), just due to her sheer sexiness and she can be pretty scary too, like Ashley. However, Ashley is scary without being sexy to make up for it (at least by my standards), with her body type, the best she can hope for is to be cute, and she it's just not enough for me (especially with that hair color/style). There is a table sexy vs. crazy, and Ashley falls in the 'no go' part of the chart. ;)
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It was quite obvious that she was putting on a front, true, but for someone who is depressed almost all of the time, just being sad on camera for me, wasn't enough endearing for me, to win me over when almost every other thing about her is something I don't like. It's kind of a personal thing for me, hits too close to home, and reminds me of some psychos I knew IRL, in certain Anime, and represents everything I dislike in characters. She is the loli type, which I never liked, Lin got a pass for being an elf, and being the only one we saw at the time, I has just assumed that you were going with the 'smaller than human average' type elf, and by the time I learned otherwise, her adorableness had more than won me over, where as with Ashley, she lacks those good points for me (no offense, intended, really), it's just personal tastes. I don't like blondes, and she isn't one naturally, but bleached it which is worse. Don't get me wrong, I have literally been in her emotional place, and did a lot to stand out myself at one time but I like to think I handled it better. :LOL:
If you do let her hair go back to normal, and her personality changes, then her and the MC can start over, and try again. :ROFLMAO: Start a real relationship, over that fake one she was pushing up to this point.

Could you explain this a bit more? I don't understand what you mean.
Oh, sorry. Heh. Just a joke based on the fact that many of these games that have the MC's family as part of the cast of love interests, when they do polls for what character to do next, the mother wins most of them, followed by the sisters. When they put those on the poll, it's almost a guarantee who will win. You won't have that option, so you ought to have more variety in your polls.


I don't think training is grindy, is it? Each option provides unique scenes I think everyone who enjoys those specific themes are going to like, and possibly revisit. I specifically mention that their story has been finished, and not everything to do with them, because there are a lot of things to do with them outside of story. There's a lot of 'roll of the dice' events that go down.
It has improved from the first time I played this game, I admit, there are just a few places where it still is. As I mentioned before, trying to keep the girls' affection score up as high as the sluttiness score, redoing the same 2-3 dates over and over got a bit old. And grinding out 13+ for each of the sex scenes was a bit much.... kind of, partly due to having to do a date (or 3) for each one to keep the affection up. The new outfits do help to change things up, and the 2nd time the dialogue changes, so that is nice. Maybe a change of dialogue to go along with the levels of the skill. Which reminds me of something else I was thinking the other day. As the submission stat goes up, what the non-maids call you should change. At least changing to 'master' by the time they hit 10-13 or so. I can't think of other names, unless maybe they start by calling you by name, and start with Sir after they get 3 points, then master when they hit 10. This is another place where a variation in the dialogue could go a long way in making the 13+ scenes be less repetitive. It is nice that for the submissive score goes up for any, but like for Maria it is her only way to get a hand job.
Catching the girls out of the room, I like having the alternate options, but it might be helpful to have another one that has her follow you to her room for a private talk, so if you want to do her normal stuff, you can. Or maybe you can call her to her room, or yours. ;) I am assuming you will be adding a cell phone for him soon, since you talked about an app for Android, so maybe that is a place you can 'summon' one of them to do things when they are not in their room.

I've explained this in detail before, but any amount of customization will never happen. Long story short, if I were to give each girl 1 alternate thing, just anything about them you could change, I could get that done in 6 months to a year, simply because the game isn't made in sprites. And that update would only be able those customizations, it's an insane amount of work. I do however want to make my next game in sprites so customization is an option.
That's about what I expected, didn't think it was a viable option in this style. Sorry it was asked before.
 

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Let's see, This might take some time... let me think a min.
As for those, I set her to wake me up, and since it was basically a free BJ and slut point, and adorable, I left it go, as I said, until I had the option to work on Android. I will set her back once the threat of Ashley is over. (I wouldn't want Lin to get hurt because she was sleeping next to me when the crazy girl breaks in).

Let's see, once I loaded the new version, it took me a while to work out a habit, but now I go to the kitchen and work on Lin's obedience (head pat and spank if I need the points) because they do not pass time. Then I run around and look to see where everyone is (who is hanging out where), and decide who I will work on for that shift, and go do that, do the same thing at noon for Android, and repeat.

I normally like to work on one girl at time, but in here, it's designed to spread that out a bit more, since some people are only home at some times, or some days, so I do a bit here and a bit there. Spread that love around. :love:

I do something with another girl in the evening, and then go back to spy on the girls at night. I never did see Ashley talking on cam, other than the occasional time when she is in the alternate outfits, saying something about how I like to see her wear it, but I assume I just haven't gotten that far with her. I think I missed out on part of her class, since I never got the 'E' riddle.

I try to get at least a 13 in every skill, though I am not into feet, so I ignore those, and there is no 'thigh-master' trait yet, so I didn't worry about the thigh jobs skill either. I love the Exhibition scenes, those are generally my favorites.

Sometimes I will grind the same event over and over, and other times I will try to break it up to be less dull. (No matter how sexy a scene is, doing it so many times in a row get's old if it's the same each time). I am not sure what else to say about it, but if you have any questions, I will do my best to answer them.
Thank you! That was very insightful. By the way, the riddle stuff is apart of Kate, Ashley's school mate. You can go to Ashley's college and talk with everyone there, an addition I plan to add to.

I completely agree with you on the 'flawed' characters, it makes them far more interesting, more relatable.
Jesus Christ, tell that to my D&D buddies. All they want to do is make the perfect character, and I keep telling them flaws make better characters than Bull Rush... :cautious:


It was quite obvious that she was putting on a front, true, but for someone who is depressed almost all of the time, just being sad on camera for me, wasn't enough endearing for me, to win me over when almost every other thing about her is something I don't like. It's kind of a personal thing for me, hits too close to home, and reminds me of some psychos I knew IRL, in certain Anime, and represents everything I dislike in characters. She is the loli type, which I never liked, Lin got a pass for being an elf, and being the only one we saw at the time, I has just assumed that you were going with the 'smaller than human average' type elf, and by the time I learned otherwise, her adorableness had more than won me over, where as with Ashley, she lacks those good points for me (no offense, intended, really), it's just personal tastes. I don't like blondes, and she isn't one naturally, but bleached it which is worse. Don't get me wrong, I have literally been in her emotional place, and did a lot to stand out myself at one time but I like to think I handled it better. :LOL:
Yeah, all good. I don't expect people to like everyone.

It has improved from the first time I played this game, I admit, there are just a few places where it still is. As I mentioned before, trying to keep the girls' affection score up as high as the sluttiness score, redoing the same 2-3 dates over and over got a bit old. And grinding out 13+ for each of the sex scenes was a bit much.... kind of, partly due to having to do a date (or 3) for each one to keep the affection up. The new outfits do help to change things up, and the 2nd time the dialogue changes, so that is nice. Maybe a change of dialogue to go along with the levels of the skill. Which reminds me of something else I was thinking the other day. As the submission stat goes up, what the non-maids call you should change. At least changing to 'master' by the time they hit 10-13 or so. I can't think of other names, unless maybe they start by calling you by name, and start with Sir after they get 3 points, then master when they hit 10. This is another place where a variation in the dialogue could go a long way in making the 13+ scenes be less repetitive. It is nice that for the submissive score goes up for any, but like for Maria it is her only way to get a hand job.
Catching the girls out of the room, I like having the alternate options, but it might be helpful to have another one that has her follow you to her room for a private talk, so if you want to do her normal stuff, you can. Or maybe you can call her to her room, or yours. ;) I am assuming you will be adding a cell phone for him soon, since you talked about an app for Android, so maybe that is a place you can 'summon' one of them to do things when they are not in their room.


That's about what I expected, didn't think it was a viable option in this style. Sorry it was asked before.
Speaking of submission, pet names will be included in v0.6 as a part of their Submissive trait. You can rename them to whatever you want, although they will unfortunately not call you whatever you want. There are just too many instances and subinstances of the usage of [name] that It would be very confusing for me to implement. So you can call Ashley "Fuck bunny" or whatever.
 
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@Coffeecool I somehow missed your review. Thanks for it! But... The twins are exact copies of each other. I literally copy/pasted their model and only changed the hair, haha.
 
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@Coffeecool I somehow missed your review. Thanks for it! But... The twins are exact copies of each other. I literally copy/pasted their model and only changed the hair, haha.
Adding on to that, because I think it is interesting and they do look a bit different due to the different eye animations and poses I use, here's an example (I didn't get her hair color right)


Normal Emma

Normal Emma with pink hair

Normal Emma with pink hair and Felicity's hair style

Felicity
 

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Thank you! That was very insightful. By the way, the riddle stuff is apart of Kate, Ashley's school mate. You can go to Ashley's college and talk with everyone there, an addition I plan to add to.
Always glad to help where I can.
I did go to her class, but she got kicked out before I got to ask all of the questions. I also look forward to more with Juliet. I love her goth look.

Jesus Christ, tell that to my D&D buddies. All they want to do is make the perfect character, and I keep telling them flaws make better characters than Bull Rush... :cautious:
A lesson I learned from Rumiko Takahashi. Every character in her stories need therapy to some degree or another, just like real life! :LOL: Sometimes the most fun can be found in the flaws and mistakes. Even my uber powered god level characters had flaws. ;) I was always fond of a thing we called whimsy wine, drinking it was much like having someone hit you with a jester wand, but not as boring, a lot more crazy things could happen. :ROFLMAO:

Speaking of submission, pet names will be included in v0.6 as a part of their Submissive trait. You can rename them to whatever you want, although they will unfortunately not call you whatever you want. There are just too many instances and subinstances of the usage of [name] that It would be very confusing for me to implement. So you can call Ashley "Fuck bunny" or whatever.
That's kind of cute, Felicia will just be 'Kitty', I just like the idea of them calling me 'Master', like the maids, at least in the dungeon scenes once we get them well trained, as like an upgrade to 'Sir'. As for the rest of them, it might be fun to throw in on occasion for humor (to be cute or embarrass him in front of others, like when we took Android to the clothing store), but I see them speaking to him normally the rest of the time.
 
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Adding on to that, because I think it is interesting and they do look a bit different due to the different eye animations and poses I use, here's an example (I didn't get her hair color right)


Normal Emma

Normal Emma with pink hair

Normal Emma with pink hair and Felicity's hair style

Felicity
Very cute, though I would suggest a different tint than her sister if she is going to dye it, since they were twins, it would help her stand out and add to her individually. Maybe a darker tint, or more blue.
 
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