Why do so many games force you to have Anal
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I actually can't think of any games where it was forced but I only play MF and FF games. There are a lot of them where it's optional though. It's a fairly popular kink. I personally don't like it but vaginal sex is almost always available as an alternate option so I just pick that instead.
For some reason, there is hardly any anal action in lesbian games or porn.
I've always wondered why that is, because there are actually women who prefer anal to vaginal IRL.
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1 in every 5000 women is born w/o a vagina. Complete
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.I hadn't heard that but I suspect for guys, some consider it the final form of dominance. They haven't fully conquered her until they've had her ass. Just a guess since that's not my thing. Not really sure why lesbians might be into it but hey, strapons/etc are a thing so why not?
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"Sexual preference"
The anus is 400 times more sensitive than the vagina. gay people aren't stupid
Actually I was talking about women with a functional vagina.
As you say yourself:
Gay people are still stupid though because they miss the boobies.
I didn't really consider that in my post, but yeah, that's probably a thing as well.
Personally I consider blowjobs more about dominance than anal though.
Which is somewhat funny, because for some girls, a blowjob seems to be the way to avoid/postpone "real sex".
I accidentally read "Babies" instead of "Boobies".Gay people are still stupid though because they miss the boobies.
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You are getting 80-90% of your reliable information about those classical civilizations from the predecessors of Catholic priests (clergy and scribes). When you hear about politicians and rulers with hopefully less dramatic tales than the fabled Caligula, some of it is exaggerated and some it is the unfortunate result of mental illness. Not to say you are decadent and depraved if you engage in anal yourself, but you can see why people would be driven to it for all the wrong reasons. You are also often talking about powerful men enjoying the domination of mostly young boys, and it's not even clear if they were attracted to the opposite sex or just liked inflicting pain (maybe as part of a vicious generational cycle).
There's nearly zero media that accurately depicts past eras, so it's hard to even reintroduce nevermind understand the context where anal used to be "completely normal". We mostly have to rely on modern conventions and our own ethics to determine how anal should be viewed. Of course, the dev should be free to use it as a mechanic however they want, and they have the freedom to do that since, luckily, it's not as taboo as it appears (on the surface) to have been since biblical times. It is important to recognize that the taboo probably exists because some people take it way too far. That is to say, some countries have sexual practices being carried on by the morally bankrupt.
P.S. I am not implying the clerical class throughout various civilizations was always a haven for sexual predators, but I suspiciously view an archetypal member as either corrupt, hypocritical, a bizarre product of their environment, or not all that trustworthy.
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This one never had a proper answer in 4 years...
The answer is simple, Money. It has 2 explanations:
1)Somebody will like it, and buy the product.
2)The developer will use anal as a consolation prize while milking the game for 20 updates and keeping a character virgin, meanwhile people expecting it to change will make him rich. Eventually he will abandon the project and the girl will become a part of the altar of Virgins. ALL HAIL LISA! ALL HAIL LISA!!
(I know Lisa had a second coming, but still, my point prevails)
The answer is simple, Money. It has 2 explanations:
1)Somebody will like it, and buy the product.
2)The developer will use anal as a consolation prize while milking the game for 20 updates and keeping a character virgin, meanwhile people expecting it to change will make him rich. Eventually he will abandon the project and the girl will become a part of the altar of Virgins. ALL HAIL LISA! ALL HAIL LISA!!
(I know Lisa had a second coming, but still, my point prevails)
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My 5 cents...
I don't care if everyone and their neighbor love it and if countless women allegedly crave it in real life. Make it optional! Too many VNs (the ones I played) force it upon you! And even odder... later in the game it suddenly often IS optional.
Even otherwise completely vanilla and wholesome games sometimes are guilty of this, things like "Life with Mary" for example. Unskippable, unavoidable.
Someone else here said that sometimes it can be a positive shock, because you may suddenly find out you actually like something when you see it first in a VN. In my opinion that is just nonsense. Show me one person who found out through a VN that they like something in real life.
Forced kinks of any variety exist for two reasons only
a) the dev may like that kink and maybe thinks almost everyone likes it and/or the dev thinks the audience wants it
b) offering options requires more renders / animations and it's much quicker and cheaper just to make certain things mandatory, because of "story"
Love of Magic for example, makes it mandatory... until suddenly the MC finds out that the one ritual he performs just requires any kind of sex and then no longer does it. The excuse in the story was that the first person he did it with needed to preserve her virginity... yet another stupid contrivance you find in too many VNs. Virgins who'd rather have anal sex first... yes, sure.
If the game is about anal sex or any other kink, then go ahead, make it all about that. No issues with that, there are tags and story summaries for a reason. But in otherwise entirely wholesome / vanilla games it's just plain annoying and stupid to force kinks on anyone. I play mostly vanilla / wholesome for a reason. And I am old enough to know what I like and absolutely don't like.
Maybe the tag system should be expanded with a "unskippable anal (insert any other kink)" label. But the best solution is not to make it unavoidable.
I don't care if everyone and their neighbor love it and if countless women allegedly crave it in real life. Make it optional! Too many VNs (the ones I played) force it upon you! And even odder... later in the game it suddenly often IS optional.
Even otherwise completely vanilla and wholesome games sometimes are guilty of this, things like "Life with Mary" for example. Unskippable, unavoidable.
Someone else here said that sometimes it can be a positive shock, because you may suddenly find out you actually like something when you see it first in a VN. In my opinion that is just nonsense. Show me one person who found out through a VN that they like something in real life.
Forced kinks of any variety exist for two reasons only
a) the dev may like that kink and maybe thinks almost everyone likes it and/or the dev thinks the audience wants it
b) offering options requires more renders / animations and it's much quicker and cheaper just to make certain things mandatory, because of "story"
Love of Magic for example, makes it mandatory... until suddenly the MC finds out that the one ritual he performs just requires any kind of sex and then no longer does it. The excuse in the story was that the first person he did it with needed to preserve her virginity... yet another stupid contrivance you find in too many VNs. Virgins who'd rather have anal sex first... yes, sure.
If the game is about anal sex or any other kink, then go ahead, make it all about that. No issues with that, there are tags and story summaries for a reason. But in otherwise entirely wholesome / vanilla games it's just plain annoying and stupid to force kinks on anyone. I play mostly vanilla / wholesome for a reason. And I am old enough to know what I like and absolutely don't like.
Maybe the tag system should be expanded with a "unskippable anal (insert any other kink)" label. But the best solution is not to make it unavoidable.
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How dare they write stories where something you don't personally like happens!
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You miss the point, it's NOT about the story, it's about making certain things mandatory and unskippable even in games that are otherwise pure vanilla with a wholesome story and romance and where said kink is entirely random.
I don't care if games include any number of things, whatever floats your boat, but unless the game is specifically about that, make it optional! What's so complicated about that? Choice is always better than no choice, no?
Imagine if (otherwise vanilla/wholesome) games had unskippable watersports scenes? So just make it optional. And if a dev doesn't have the resources or time to render different options maybe it's best not to include certain things in games that are NOT about these things at all.
Some VNs feel like Romeo & Julia... only with random anal sex inserted at one point (and then making it optional later) for no reason at all. It's silly, in my opinion.
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Now that's something entirely different, I was talking about a male / female romance
Vanilla always depends on the general setting. Lesbian focused games also feature things that are perfectly normal in that setting, but should not necessarily be featured in a male / female romance (i.e. lesbian sex, make it optional for those who like bi-curious LIs).
That's an entire topic by itself, I thought every straight guy in the earth would love lesbian scenes, turns out, as you mention, there are some that aren't into it. And, believe it or not, there are some gays that are not into anal, at all. No top or bottom... just nothing, nada.
When I designed my game, I put Oral (Top/Bottom) and anal (Top/bottom) as vanilla (gay) sex, and made it mandatory in certain parts of the game. Thing is, everything besides that is optional and can be skipped without consequences (just to mention a few kinks I include: BDSM, watersports, rimming, feet fetish (on next update), double penetration, toys, etc...) and that's one of the core features of the game, I go as far as making the sex encounters totally avoidable unless they're part of the storyline, and I take pride of that, the gamers that tested the game love it.
But this thread made me reconsider my stance about anal sex, making it mandatory. Even on a gay game, I should have treated it like the other kinks, making it optional, but I'm too far on the development to change that. If I ever get to my second project, I'll make it optional, giving more control to the players.
Straight devs should treat anal or lesbian scenes as you say, optional. Let's hope more devs read this.
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Anal is vanilla, anal sex has been around since the dawn of time. Anal sex used to be used as a form of contraception. If you don't like anal sex in games then don't download them.
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That is debatable. Sure, it has been around since forever. So has probably been some variation of BDSM, choking, sub/dom etc - doesn't mean that's "vanilla" though. It's an optional preference. If someone likes it, great. Nothing wrong at all about it. Do whatever makes you and your partner happy. All I am asking is... why make it mandatory and unskippable? What is wrong with making things optional? Choice is always better.
Well, probably
Generally speaking that's quite hot. But as always... it depends on context! What I am saying is that it - for me - depends on the story, the setting and the love interest. For some LIs I feel it would be entirely out of character and just plain wrong if the female suddenly became bi-curious and was up for either a threesome or a lesbian scene (with or without the MC).In a different setting and with a different LI it may very well feel ok and the way to go. So as always context is everything. And just like with anal or any other kink it would be best if lesbian / threesome scenes with a main LI are entirely optional. Some settings/genres probably don't require that though, harem games are pure fantasy anyway and everyone lusts after the MC, threesomes or girl on girl action in this context is almost always ok since it's an open buffet for all anyway.
If we talk story focused games with solo paths... then it should always be optional for those who want it - and completely avoidable for everyone else. Unless the LI on the solo path is shown to be bi-curious (or a lesbian) right from the start, then you know what you're up to with her and no one should be surprised when things happen.