Akamari

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You are both right. But then I can not say it's an adult game. And keep taking money if I can not work. Then I have to stop the donations or switch to Pro version. Everyone has to work for their money. Every person can become ill. That is normal. But then I can not continue to take money. I say the story is great. The humor is world class. But I find that in ready games too. And here people are looking for erotic games. And in this area, the game fails completely.
It's subjective. I got more eroticism from this game then 99% of explicit porn games.

In the current age, once you show a nipple in a game you pretty much have a game for adults only. There is explicit nudity in the game, so by all standards it is an adult game.
 

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It's subjective. I got more eroticism from this game then 99% of explicit porn games.

In the current age, once you show a nipple in a game you pretty much have a game for adults only. There is explicit nudity in the game, so by all standards it is an adult game.
Maybe that's the case in the USA.
But movies with nipples and half nude, are on the rest of the world.
From 12 or 16 years. See: . Your statement is so wrong.

in the old game Biing 2. you can see more nudity than here. There is the release from 12 years
 

Akamari

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Maybe that's the case in the USA.
But movies with nipples and half nude, are on the rest of the world.
From 12 or 16 years. See: . Your statement is so wrong.

in the old game Biing 2. you can see more nudity than here. There is the release from 12 years
I'm talking about games in general, not movies.
 

ive_got-problems

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You are both right. But then I can not say it's an adult game. And keep taking money if I can not work. Then I have to stop the donations or switch to Pro version. Everyone has to work for their money. Every person can become ill. That is normal. But then I can not continue to take money. I say the story is great. The humor is world class. But I find that in ready games too. And here people are looking for erotic games. And in this area, the game fails completely.
I'm actually looking for a fun game with a good story and engaging characters, with some sexy stuff thrown on top of it. This game checks all those boxes for me. Sorry it's not what you're looking for though. Also, nobody is requiring anyone to keep paying for this game if they don't think they're getting their monies worth.
 

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@Firecracker

This game was done as such on purpose.
At the start, the focus is on the story and less on the adult stuff. I wanted to show that this was a niche game from the start and to get the right playerbase on it and (for lack of better words) weed out the people that just want a sex feast game.

Now I understand this can cause a lot of frustrations and anger to the players that just want sex. But fortunately for you, the majority of the games out there is a sex feast (hence the niche tag). So, why deny the people that enjoy a good story and character development the opportunity to play?

Sex alone is not what makes an adult game. The sensual stuff before the sex plays a big part for many.
Of course, you can start asking the staff on making rules that games that do not have sex in it should be removed from the forums. But that will mean a lot of 0.01 games won't be allowed and many games that focus on character development won't be either.

My patreon delay due to sickness is of course not fun. I talked with my patrons on this and luckily they are very understanding.

Lastly, the game has full nudity, groping and very suggestive nude poses with the dreams which wouldn't be allowed anywhere due to being tagged 'adult'. (As much as this can anger many hardcore adult players.)

I hope this answers your questions and that you find a game for your liking :)
 

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I'm actually looking for a fun game with a good story and engaging characters, with some sexy stuff thrown on top of it. This game checks all those boxes for me. Sorry it's not what you're looking for though. Also, nobody is requiring anyone to keep paying for this game if they don't think they're getting their monies worth.
I think you're right. But then I can not, continue to take money. If I can not work. If one donates $ 10. that's $ 240 over 2 years. And that's a damn lot for just a game. 2 years is a normal development time.
 

ive_got-problems

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I think you're right. But then I can not, continue to take money. If I can not work. If one donates $ 10. that's $ 240 over 2 years. And that's a damn lot for just a game. 2 years is a normal development time.
Right, and I hear you. Like Hopes said, he told his patrons what happened with him, and they decided to stick with it because they believe in his game and vision. But it just comes down to how you wanna spend your money, nobody should keep paying for a game they don't think is going they way they want. I'm sure there's plenty of games here that will be to your liking, and hopefully once this game gets updated you'll decide to give it another try.
 

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I think you're right. But then I can not, continue to take money. If I can not work. If one donates $ 10. that's $ 240 over 2 years. And that's a damn lot for just a game. 2 years is a normal development time.
I think you're fundamentally misunderstanding how patreon works.
You do not buy a game. Nor are you paying just enough for the development process (that is kickstarter).
Patrons support the dev in making a game they enjoy. And want to send some spare money to them.
Also, I did not stop working on the project due to my sickness (didn't lose my arms, haha) but rather it was not at full capacity.
And as said, the patrons understand that. In the end. They decided how their money is spent. I say it way beforehand that it will be delayed due to sickness. It's not a surprise attack :LOL:
 

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Right, and I hear you. Like Hopes said, he told his patrons what happened with him, and they decided to stick with it because they believe in his game and vision. But it just comes down to how you wanna spend your money, nobody should keep paying for a game they don't think is going they way they want. I'm sure there's plenty of games here that will be to your liking, and hopefully once this game gets updated you'll decide to give it another try.
The game is good. Like the game. 3 months ago, I laughed, tears. I also supported it. But 3 months to pay. and get nothing. I think that's hard. Then you should be fair as a developer, and the donations also stop. The missing eroticism is also ok. You can live with that. But get nothing and pay. For a game that is not yet on adult status. That's not nice.
 

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He earns around 1700$ from Patreon. In my country the poverty line is around 2200. So if he would only work on this game, he mostly coudn't support himself enough. Obviously in other region this numbers are different.
 

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do you guys think its right when a dev hides content from those who dont donate to there patreon i think donors should get exclusive stuff like news on the next update and art work and stuff like that but denying access to parts of the game just feels wrong to me new players will run into this and get discouraged and not wanna play tell me if im wrong what do you guys think ?
 
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do you guys think its right when a dev hides content from those who dont donate to there patreon i think donors should get exclusive stuff like news on the next update and art work and stuff like that but denying access to parts of the game just feels wrong to me new players will run into this and get discouraged and not wanna play tell me if im wrong what do you guys think ?
Agree.
I understand why some devs do it. And also friends with some who use that model. So, not going to go too much in-depth with it. But my game will not have locked exclusive content. Patreon reward is merely my way of showing extra appreciation for the people willing to support me.
 

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Agree.
I understand why some devs do it. And also friends with some who use that model. So, not going to go too much in-depth with it. But my game will not have locked exclusive content. Patreon reward is merely my way of showing extra appreciation for the people willing to support me.
you are a cool dude
 
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im from the uk what does 1 $ transfer to in pounds is it 1 pound or more/less ? asking cos im thinking of become an Associate on the patreon
 
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I see someone here is overcrying like a crybaby, over some monthly spent money, all while totally missing the point of what Patreon is about...
Keep up the good work dude, I'm sure you are great at whatever you do for living yourself and paying HopesGaming's Patreon for such too much long time yet not worth your money.
 

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I am sorry to hear this game wasn't to your liking.

What did you dislike and which parts do you think should be improved and how?
I just wondering somethings.
I already donated you on patreon but i dont like playing those games on pc or laptop so i am playing this on android. How i can save it ? I cant found it so its ruining my game enjoying.

Other question, will we see more +18 scenes in future updates in game? This game have a heavy atmosphere i understand it but i think its need more s.. scene :)
And last question. We we will can f.. family leader woman ( i cant remember her name ) :D
And thanks for this great game
 
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It is 0,78 Pound (google tells me, haha) but there is also a fee so a bit more. Only support if you can afford it.
I care about my player base. Patron or not.

I see someone here is overcrying like a crybaby, over some monthly spent money, all while totally missing the point of what Patreon is about...
Keep up the good work dude, I'm sure you are great at whatever you do for living yourself and paying HopesGaming's Patreon for such too much long time yet not worth your money.
Thank you, Altair :giggle:. But remember no name calling :coffee:
I want everyone to feel welcome. No matter their opinions.

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Throughout my time here I have noticed that many who usually never patrons (or patron for the wrong reasons) are the one who has the biggest voices when it is about patreon. Milking, earning too much, taking too long and so on.
But those are a lot to do with lack of understanding of patreon like I mentioned before.

Also, they tend to look at the number and think it has always been like that.
I started my DeLuca project several months before making my patreon. Wanted everything to be perfect. Script, character models, music, planning, learning Daz, learning writing, learning coding, composition and so on. There was no pay involved in that besides my own free time.
At the start, you do not just magically get the big numbers. You start out with something even a child slave labor would be like *Nah fuck that*. And that goes on several months until you get noticed and people start coming.
In fact, I got lucky. I got a great boost since the start. But many other devs are not so fortunate.


I just wondering somethings.
I already donated you on patreon but i dont like playing those games on pc or laptop so i am playing this on android. How i can save it ? I cant found it so its ruining my game enjoying.

Other question, will we see more +18 scenes in future updates in game? This game have a heavy atmosphere i understand it but i think its need more s.. scene :)
And last question. We we will can f.. family leader woman ( i cant remember her name ) :D
And thanks for this great game
The Android port is not done by me but by @the66. He is a great porter and you can ask him if you got questions regarding his ports.
There will be sex scenes. And it will be plentiful. 0.04 we start getting more physical and after that, it should go off. (but still keeping the games integrity and not turn into a comical sex feast game)

Usually, it's the updates go story - free roaming (adult) - story - free roaming (adult) and so on. Next update is free roaming.

Cordia will have her adult scenes too, that is for sure.
 
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