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Come on, be consistent, if until now, in spite of everything, Ocean has fought like a lion for the blueness of people’s balls, then why do you suspect him of such a low trick as creating full-fledged porn scenes without any foreplay lasting at least a few chapters? :)

And everything in him (the MC) screams: "I push girls away," only if you really make every effort not to notice how straightforward the MC is in gaining first the attention and then the sympathy of the girls.

Okay let's put Vic aside, she’s strange and followed him from the first minutes of the game. What about the rest?

Bella - MC is the first guy who doesn't want to bed her at all, doesn't treat her like she's a psycho, seems to understand her and is capable of being her partner in crime. Exactly what she was looking for. At the same time, it is obvious that she has not had anyone for a long time and that she is clearly suffering from a lack of sex; the box is my proof.
However, continue to be an ass to her, do not admit that you and she are not so different - and she will not trust you and will not have any sexual interest in you. Everything seems fair, doesn’t it?

Nadia - at first she showed interest because MC got along with Bella, then he agreed to participate in her tabletop game and won her respect, taking seriously the passion of her life. What is there far-fetched? And by the way, she noticed that the guy goes to the gym, this may seem unexpected, but girls like athletic guys. :KEK:

Zara - there's no point in retelling the scene at Nick's house, the MC played on her competitiveness, made small gestures here and there, like when he carried her after knocking her to the ground. Taking her tennis match seriously earned her friendships. And the heart-to-heart conversation in the jacuzzi that become possible after winning the match added a certain layer of trust between them. Zara is on the hook. Of course, the fact that she turned out to be Nick's daughter is a lucky coincidence for the MC, which gave him a chance to get close to her and do his magic, but everything else seems natural.

Mila and Vic - It was enough to simply show attention to them, talk to them, take an interest in their lives, make a promise to Vic, and stand up for Mila. And now there is a trust and an invitation to a movie night. And then liquior, a relaxed atmosphere and a threesome kiss in the finale. Nika is naturally become a member of their girls-only gang.

Nia - okay, in this case it's still more the influence of the past, her friendship with Summer, long-time symphaty to the MC. All he needs to do is just treat her with understanding and not push her away just because of her weirdness.

So, in my opinion, girls behave quite naturally, they do not rush at the MC simply because he is the MC (with an exception), but allow themselves to be interested if the MC makes an effort.

And no MC now isn't a cold prick but a sarcastic dick. :p
There are several funny scenes with Zara, first Nika doesn't to go to the gym, after some bad choices, they go to play tennis and because of Nika they lose because he is out of shape
 

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There are several funny scenes with Zara, first Nika doesn't to go to the gym, after some bad choices, they go to play tennis and because of Nika they lose because he is out of shape
Yeah, and if I remember correctly, then she refuses to tell him about her parents' divorce because she feels like she doesn't know or trust him enough.
 

Metal Panic

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You, along with the rest of Ocean's defenders

Do you really think that anyone here cares about your words
Am I defending him? where did I, in my post, defend Ocean? please, show me. Why am I gonna beat a dead dog like you and most people on here? "No sex booo, I can't see the MC's DICK anymore (ha, gaaaaay)" you are one of the ones constantly bitching/complaining and yet, you remain.

If you hate it so much, why are you still here? to try and leave replies to people you assume are "defending" Ocean for what? to get some reactions because that's all you got in your sad, empty life? I was just joking with my reply but you got butthurt from it.

You need to step away from the PC and get some fresh air.

Yeah, you cared enough to reply lol.
 
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NeroZee

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Come on, be consistent, if until now, in spite of everything, Ocean has fought like a lion for the blueness of people’s balls, then why do you suspect him of such a low trick as creating full-fledged porn scenes without any foreplay lasting at least a few chapters? :)

And everything in him (the MC) screams: "I push girls away," only if you really make every effort not to notice how straightforward the MC is in gaining first the attention and then the sympathy of the girls.

Okay let's put Vic aside, she’s strange and followed him from the first minutes of the game. What about the rest?

Bella - MC is the first guy who doesn't want to bed her at all, doesn't treat her like she's a psycho, seems to understand her and is capable of being her partner in crime. Exactly what she was looking for. At the same time, it is obvious that she has not had anyone for a long time and that she is clearly suffering from a lack of sex; the box is my proof.
However, continue to be an ass to her, do not admit that you and she are not so different - and she will not trust you and will not have any sexual interest in you. Everything seems fair, doesn’t it?

Nadia - at first she showed interest because MC got along with Bella, then he agreed to participate in her tabletop game and won her respect, taking seriously the passion of her life. What is there far-fetched? And by the way, she noticed that the guy goes to the gym, this may seem unexpected, but girls like athletic guys. :KEK:

Zara - there's no point in retelling the scene at Nick's house, the MC played on her competitiveness, made small gestures here and there, like when he carried her after knocking her to the ground. Taking her tennis match seriously earned her friendships. And the heart-to-heart conversation in the jacuzzi that become possible after winning the match added a certain layer of trust between them. Zara is on the hook. Of course, the fact that she turned out to be Nick's daughter is a lucky coincidence for the MC, which gave him a chance to get close to her and do his magic, but everything else seems natural.

Mila and Vic - It was enough to simply show attention to them, talk to them, take an interest in their lives, make a promise to Vic, and stand up for Mila. And now there is a trust and an invitation to a movie night. And then liquior, a relaxed atmosphere and a threesome kiss in the finale. Nika is naturally become a member of their girls-only gang.

Nia - okay, in this case it's still more the influence of the past, her friendship with Summer, long-time symphaty to the MC. All he needs to do is just treat her with understanding and not push her away just because of her weirdness.

So, in my opinion, girls behave quite naturally, they do not rush at the MC simply because he is the MC (with an exception), but allow themselves to be interested if the MC makes an effort.

And no MC now isn't a cold prick but a sarcastic dick. :p
I get your point man but that doesnt really have much to do with why i find the MC to be so repulsive. Yea i get it why some of the girls like the MC, my point is he is a dick, you said it yourself, if we didnt play by the game rules of him being a protagonist he would literally just be alone all the time. The problem is his instant, cold, dickish attitude would repel the girls BEFORE any ofthem would even give the chance to get to know him and bond with him more.
The girls are fine themselves, they are way too forgiving and understanding if anything, the MC is just a horrible MC. Might actually be the worst one on this website with no redeeming qualities. He also takes longer to heal a wound on his mouth that he does to get completely jacked, this part isnt important its just funny.
 
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Kakasan

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I get your point man but that doesnt really have much to do with why i find the MC to be so repulsive. Yea i get it why some of the girls like the MC, my point is he is a dick, you said it yourself, if we didnt play by the game rules of him being a protagonist he would literally just be alone all the time. The problem is his instant, cold, dickish attitude would repel the girls BEFORE any ofthem would even give the chance to get to know him and bond with him more.
The girls are fine themselves, they are way too forgiving and understanding if anything, the MC is just a horrible MC. Might actually be the worst one on this website with no redeeming qualities. He also takes longer to heal a wound on his mouth that he does to get completely jacked, this part isnt important its just funny.
Nika is either gay, or attracted to minors, which is why his dick doesn't rise for women.
Even if a person has depression, the dick still rises
 
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Krytax123

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I get your point man but that doesnt really have much to do with why i find the MC to be so repulsive. Yea i get it why some of the girls like the MC, my point is he is a dick, you said it yourself, if we didnt play by the game rules of him being a protagonist he would literally just be alone all the time. The problem is his instant, cold, dickish attitude would repel the girls BEFORE any ofthem would even give the chance to get to know him and bond with him more.
The girls are fine themselves, they are way too forgiving and understanding if anything, the MC is just a horrible MC. Might actually be the worst one on this website with no redeeming qualities. He also takes longer to heal a wound on his mouth that he does to get completely jacked, this part isnt important its just funny.
lmao the worst

on a site where like 50% of the mcs are some fucking shotas or other weird perverts who are only obsessing about tits and asses in their minds 95% of the time like they are some dogs in heat.

and the other 50% are the great bland and boring, flawless whiteknight fuckers

nah thanks
 

Andarilho

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Genuine curiosity here since I'm not following this VN's development.
Why all this censorship to get a Steam release, when you can find SO MUCH MORE explicit content
there?
 

NeroZee

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lmao the worst

on a site where like 50% of the mcs are some fucking shotas or other weird perverts who are only obsessing about tits and asses in their minds 95% of the time like they are some dogs in heat.

and the other 50% are the great bland and boring, flawless whiteknight fuckers

nah thanks
I will be honest with you man, dont really play many games with shotas. I am 100% ok with MCs being perverts that obsess over tits and asses, what website do you think we are on? F95 might as well rename itself to tits and asses. Also this maybe a personal preference but i will 100% take a bland MC over one with an established personality of a emo, anti-social, school shooter vibe looking mofo.

One thing people dont seem to understand is when we are discussing fiction, the worst thing you can be is not a serial killer, not a genocidal maniac, not even a rapist... the worst a character can be is annoying.
 
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NeroZee

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Genuine curiosity here since I'm not following this VN's development.
Why all this censorship to get a Steam release, when you can find SO MUCH MORE explicit content
there?
Its an attempt from Ocean to reach a more wider audience, hopefully even go mainstream(though thats probably never happening), so that when he releases part 2 he will hopefully retain some of that audience that doesnt usually browse explicit content.

How successful will it be? I dunno we will have to wait and see, personally i think its not worth the effort and all he did was just release a worse version of the game than he previously had. The game has way too much obvious sexual tension between some characters and scenes and then the most "explicit" scene in the game is a milf holding your hand and you squeezing it back, a scene that was clearly meant to be flirtations and sexy but had me actually laughing out loud as i first played it, felt like i was watching 2 middle schoolers trying to flirt, it was really awkward.
 
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yossa999

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I get your point man but that doesnt really have much to do with why i find the MC to be so repulsive. Yea i get it why some of the girls like the MC, my point is he is a dick, you said it yourself, if we didnt play by the game rules of him being a protagonist he would literally just be alone all the time. The problem is his instant, cold, dickish attitude would repel the girls BEFORE any ofthem would even give the chance to get to know him and bond with him more.
The girls are fine themselves, they are way too forgiving and understanding if anything, the MC is just a horrible MC. Might actually be the worst one on this website with no redeeming qualities. He also takes longer to heal a wound on his mouth that he does to get completely jacked, this part isnt important its just funny.
Well, I, for example, am much more irritated by another MC who has the opportunity to act like a dick and in this case he loses the sweet talking perk, tries to give a compliment, but only a wolfy whistle comes out of his mouth. I still can't figure out how it works.

When I call Nika a dick, I mean that he can tease girls, sometimes quite viciously, but he only shows truly asshole behavior if the player allows him.

For example, he takes away a banana from Nadia, but returns a half to her. He tells her that he has forgiven her and makes an affectionate gesture, wiping a tear from her cheek. And then he dodges her hug.

The principle of carrot and stick in action, I can only admire and applaud the MC. Nothing dick-ish about this, Nadia needs to be tamed a little. :KEK:
 

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Well, I, for example, am much more irritated by another MC who has the opportunity to act like a dick and in this case he loses the sweet talking perk, tries to give a compliment, but only a wolfy whistle comes out of his mouth. I still can't figure out how it works.

When I call Nika a dick, I mean that he can tease girls, sometimes quite viciously, but he only shows truly asshole behavior if the player allows him.

For example, he takes away a banana from Nadia, but returns a half to her. He tells her that he has forgiven her and makes an affectionate gesture, wiping a tear from her cheek. And then he dodges her hug.

The principle of carrot and stick in action, I can only admire and applaud the MC. Nothing dick-ish about this, Nadia needs to be tamed a little. :KEK:
I dont know if i would call it teasing, closer to abusing them verbally.

Next time he should try hugging a wood chipper, hopefully he doesn't dodge a hug that time, just kidding i didnt mean to be that harsh towards him, he is just annoying.
 
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Krytax123

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I will be honest with you man, dont really play many games with shotas. I am 100% ok with MCs being perverts that obsess over tits and asses, what website do you think we are on? F95 might as well rename itself to tits and asses. Also this maybe a personal preference but i will 100% take a bland MC over one with an established personality of a emo, anti-social, school shooter vibe looking mofo.

One thing people dont seem to understand is when we are discussing fiction, the worst thing you can be is not a serial killer, not a genocidal maniac, not even a rapist... the worst a character can be is annoying.
Im not saying youre not allowed to dislike Nika and he's obviously not a self-insert mc, im just saying there are a LOT of way worse mcs. I dislike other mc's of avns who are liked by most so i know how you feel. Every single shota is worse than nika by the way.

And nah, mcs only obsessed with girls and fucking are just mindless, boring dumbasses. They are literally like my dog in heat, seeing a female dog and is (little) brain stops working. Guys like them never would get the girls anyway.
 

NeroZee

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Im not saying youre not allowed to dislike Nika and he's obviously not a self-insert mc, im just saying there are a LOT of way worse mcs. I dislike other mc's of avns who are liked by most so i know how you feel. Every single shota is worse than nika by the way.

And nah, mcs only obsessed with girls and fucking are just mindless, boring dumbasses. Guys like them never would get the girls anyway.
I mean probably if we account for just how many games are on this website but from the ones i have personally played which are quite a few he is one of the worst if not the worst of them all.

Nah, MCs obsessed with fucking girls are fine, a lot of them remind me of the raunchy comedies from the 80's and 90's, the kind of comedies we dont have anymore. None of these guys would ever get the girls, especially not in these numbers, the only difference is how much do they annoy me and distract me when i play the game if the MC i am paying is annoying and distracting me from playing the game that is a bad protagonist in my book.
 

Krytax123

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I mean probably if we account for just how many games are on this website but from the ones i have personally played which are quite a few he is one of the worst if not the worst of them all.

Nah, MCs obsessed with fucking girls are fine, a lot of them remind me of the raunchy comedies from the 80's and 90's, the kind of comedies we dont have anymore. None of these guys would ever get the girls, especially not in these numbers, the only difference is how much do they annoy me and distract me when i play the game if the MC i am paying is annoying and distracting me from playing the game that is a bad protagonist in my book.
I get that but its just personal preferance what annoys you is what im trying to say.

When i start a avn for example (playing the usual 19yo mc) and the avn starts with the mc obsessing over his "landlady" im not at all interrested in it annoys me to the max and i just quit, things like these are way more annoying for me than a flawed jerk protagonist like nika.

So yeah, i guess this avn is just not really yours. I take it you dislike willy too?
 
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