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Jhon1885

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Any update news?
I am preparing the Remake, the 0.1 version will be released soon.

I don't know if I'm going to upload it to F95, maybe someone else will, but for experience (about my other VNs).

If you really like what I do, I advise you to follow me on Twitter or Itch, (Patreon I usually do quite a lot of public posts too), because generally, they post my first version and hardly update after that. 1652225843875.png
 

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I am preparing the Remake, the 0.1 version will be released soon.

I don't know if I'm going to upload it to F95, maybe someone else will, but for experience (about my other VNs).

If you really like what I do, I advise you to follow me on Twitter or Itch, (Patreon I usually do quite a lot of public posts too), because generally, they post my first version and hardly update after that. View attachment 1804714
why not? it can help you gather more players!
 

Jhon1885

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why not? it can help you gather more players!
Yes, that's totally true, but, it's not a very conventional game (nsfw), sometimes, when you have personal problems, work problems, and you get to see notifications from players who hate your game because of your ideas or way of telling (let's not talk about bugs or aesthetic things that even help to improve).
Seeing that all your effort is summed up in a two-star rating is very frustrating!

Patreon is almost ornamental and the few who are patrons, as far as I know, don't come from this forum.

I've had bad experiences, frustrating, I've literally been told to do something else.

Maybe, if I dedicated myself to this, or had a lighter life, I could, but at the moment I prefer not to go through that.

If anyone likes it, you know where to find the game and news, it's free! I prefer few players, but that they value it a little.
I'm not going to become a millionaire!
Greetings!

This looks really good.
Thank you very much!
 

maoleijiang

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Yes, that's totally true, but, it's not a very conventional game (nsfw), sometimes, when you have personal problems, work problems, and you get to see notifications from players who hate your game because of your ideas or way of telling (let's not talk about bugs or aesthetic things that even help to improve).
Seeing that all your effort is summed up in a two-star rating is very frustrating!

Patreon is almost ornamental and the few who are patrons, as far as I know, don't come from this forum.

I've had bad experiences, frustrating, I've literally been told to do something else.

Maybe, if I dedicated myself to this, or had a lighter life, I could, but at the moment I prefer not to go through that.

If anyone likes it, you know where to find the game and news, it's free! I prefer few players, but that they value it a little.
I'm not going to become a millionaire!
Greetings!


Thank you very much!
I understand your feelings man, by the way, it will contain ntr?
 
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Jhon1885

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I understand your feelings man, by the way, it will contain ntr?
NTR "classic" of having your love interest stolen, no.
Yes (but they are optional to watch, along with the lesbian scenes), are the "torments" (dreams, hypnosis, blackmail abuses, by other characters), and there are characters who ay have relationships with others (all this without the MC intervening), also transsexual content, but this is optional.
 

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I see... So the remake is more ntr based than the original one. I know when to stop and press the ignore button.
Now; incidentally, the VN is based neither on NTR, nor Harem, nor incest.
It is not a porn game like most, it is a dark fantasy story, with touches of suspense/terror and cyberpunk with explicit sex scenes; fortunately there is life outside of F95 and they manage to understand this; but here (and I calculate that several similar pirate forums with incel tendency) it is scary how difficult it is for them to understand, this is apart from if: the VN likes or not, if it is "right or wrong".
That's why I think VN (and everything he does) should not be in this forum; I commented it once, I reaffirm now, if some distracted uploader uploads something from dev "Chris Eman"; don't download it, save yourself the displeasure!
 
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Now; incidentally, the VN is based neither on NTR, nor Harem, nor incest.
It is not a porn game like most, it is a dark fantasy story, with touches of suspense/terror and cyberpunk with explicit sex scenes; fortunately there is life outside of F95 and they manage to understand this; but here (and I calculate that several similar pirate forums with incel tendency) it is scary how difficult it is for them to understand, this is apart from if: the VN likes or not, if it is "right or wrong".
That's why I think VN (and everything he does) should not be in this forum; I commented it once, I reaffirm now, if some distracted uploader uploads something from dev "Chris Eman"; don't download it, save yourself the displeasure!
I mean I like dark fantasy, gore, suspence, sci-fi, horror, terror, graphic violence etc... I have played many such games... And if story is good, I will play it even with 'no sexual content'. It's when i (player) or the mc have to forcefully watch some uncomfortable sex scenes, I draw the line. I would rather not see them. And if the game has more ntr scenes than vanilla, then I also avoid the game in the future. I understand your game is not centered around sex scenes. You added those scenes as bonus (probably?). Even without those sex scenes, the game won't change much. What I am saying is, are we forced to see those extra explicit sex content when mc is not involved at all? Isn't it really weird if that's the case. I can understand when you want to dump information on players in order to build the lore and world. But "meanwhile...
'You started showing two people fucking'"
..... That kind of thing would be absurd... It won't help the world building or the lore.
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It's fine if there are couples in the game. But unless mc is a voyeur, it doesn't make sense for mc to hide in corner and enjoying other people having sex. And same goes for the players. We really don't 'need to see' other couples bonking each other.
 
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Jhon1885

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I mean I like dark fantasy, gore, suspence, sci-fi, horror, terror, graphic violence etc... I have played many such games... And if story is good, I will play it even with 'no sexual content'. It's when i (player) or the mc have to forcefully watch some uncomfortable sex scenes, I draw the line. I would rather not see them. And if the game has more ntr scenes than vanilla, then I also avoid the game in the future. I understand your game is not centered around sex scenes. You added those scenes as bonus (probably?). Even without those sex scenes, the game won't change much. What I am saying is, are we forced to see those extra explicit sex content when mc is not involved at all? Isn't it really weird if that's the case. I can understand when you want to dump information on players in order to build the lore and world. But "meanwhile...
'You started showing two people fucking'"
..... That kind of thing would be absurd... It won't help the world building or the lore.
...
It's fine if there are couples in the game. But unless mc is a voyeur, it doesn't make sense for mc to hide in corner and enjoying other people having sex. And same goes for the players. We really don't 'need to see' other couples bonking each other.
The Remake starts with two choices as to whether you would like to see lesbian or "Dark" scenes (if you have played Japanese games Bible Black or Dividead, it may help to focus the idea).
Many games have the MC as the only center and the other characters barely have any personality; here it's different; and, I understand your point of "forcing to see"; but, don't you really feel like it's weird that there are no "strong" scenes outside the MC with a Dark Fantasy plot?
I couldn't do a Harem, there's no logic to support it, neither an NTR where, you pick up a rock and they're fucking your girlfriend.
The game mostly follows the MC, but like the original; you can also see different visions, points of view, or actions of other protagonists.
The thing is that they get very intense with that topic, and the truth, my project (as I mentioned above in another post), I'm not going to become a millionaire, I have other activities and I never received support, except for some exceptions (who are latinos, and have even made fan arts; they rate positive, and in patreon the ones who contribute the most by far).
Even so, with much in favor of not caring, I also think of the "anonymous players", who may like it but do not comment or nothing.
And try to offer something good, within my possibilities, that's why there are scenes that can be hidden, but I can not be so "condescending" to say "this never happened"; yes I am thinking in the future, eliminate dark options, if you already chose not to see those scenes, but I can not modify the background of a character who practiced prostitution as Frezzita or a drug addict rehabilitated as Lina for "fear of the NTR".

There are things that I did change, for example; like Miriam, I softened her plot with respect to the MC.
As a player I tell you; we are in a time where there is much more supply than demand; if there is something that does not convince you about the game, let it go; there is plenty out there!
 

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The Remake starts with two choices as to whether you would like to see lesbian or "Dark" scenes (if you have played Japanese games Bible Black or Dividead, it may help to focus the idea).
Many games have the MC as the only center and the other characters barely have any personality; here it's different; and, I understand your point of "forcing to see"; but, don't you really feel like it's weird that there are no "strong" scenes outside the MC with a Dark Fantasy plot?
I couldn't do a Harem, there's no logic to support it, neither an NTR where, you pick up a rock and they're fucking your girlfriend.
The game mostly follows the MC, but like the original; you can also see different visions, points of view, or actions of other protagonists.
The thing is that they get very intense with that topic, and the truth, my project (as I mentioned above in another post), I'm not going to become a millionaire, I have other activities and I never received support, except for some exceptions (who are latinos, and have even made fan arts; they rate positive, and in patreon the ones who contribute the most by far).
Even so, with much in favor of not caring, I also think of the "anonymous players", who may like it but do not comment or nothing.
And try to offer something good, within my possibilities, that's why there are scenes that can be hidden, but I can not be so "condescending" to say "this never happened"; yes I am thinking in the future, eliminate dark options, if you already chose not to see those scenes, but I can not modify the background of a character who practiced prostitution as Frezzita or a drug addict rehabilitated as Lina for "fear of the NTR".

There are things that I did change, for example; like Miriam, I softened her plot with respect to the MC.
As a player I tell you; we are in a time where there is much more supply than demand; if there is something that does not convince you about the game, let it go; there is plenty out there!
I did play the Bible black in early years before I found out about f95zone... I still think Kitami is the main mc.... Now that I think about it, I didn't used to be immersed playing avn game before... But it came with years of experience playing avn. Now I always end up in the shoe of the mc. If someone ask me to play Bible black now, I would have to refuse that now.
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Anyway, since there are option to not see those scenes, it's better than forced to see them.
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Dark fantasy can add one big scene during World building to show that dark side of the world. It would be enough to know how it works in the world. You don't need to repeat it. Otherwise it will become the center of your game (you will lose the plot, story will go stale).
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Anyway, I will try the remake and if I still feel uncomfortable, then I will move on from this game... Otherwise I will follow it from the shadow.
 
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Wow, bro, you made so many updates and ended up abandoning the game, maybe that was because of some face clapping and some criticism from some mediocre minds... what a waste. :cry:
Thank you very much!
Try to make a remake (it's here or in my itch)
And then I went for spinoff but with a much simpler plot.
There were people who showed their support, that's why I continue, it seems that they were interested in H Scene (what I always said is that there are many better than me for H Scene, what I can offer is a sincere story and gameplay).
The Anti NTR are very annoying, they are already bothering in the Itch page as they see that I don't enter here anymore.
Monetarily, I really appreciate it but it doesn't even reach economic help.
But it's something I like; maybe the harassment does demotivate me a little, that is to say, it relaunches everything.
Because you have to renew your energies (for someone alone, who works more than 9 hours a day, it is hard to upload these things and receive more than anything hate).
But it is comforting to know that there are people who appreciate it.
So thank you!
 
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