Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.40.0] [Selebus]

[DeSkel15]

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The respect line is from Yumi's Chapter 2 'Abyss' Event:

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It's actually about Chika though.

 

[DeSkel15]

Speaking of Yumi, I'm still wondering if her being on Ami's list will ever be a plot point:

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Frankly, I wonder if Ami's list will even come up again.

 

[LoveBlueHairedGirl]

Speaking of Yumi, I'm still wondering if her being on Ami's list will ever be a plot point:

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Frankly, I wonder if Ami's list will even come up again.

I guess it is not literal list, but rather mental note "Yumi might love him" or something like this.

 

[Xiondingens]

When i was rereading some old events, i was thinking about what could differentiate the people we interact with the shadow people, you know, those in the background, that may or may not even real people to begin with. And then i thought about it how much some of the characters actually share some traits with akira. Like, guilt, abandonment issues, loss of a important person, self loathing, not been able to let go, not been a good person and all that.

I have often stated that i did believe this whole timeloop thing did feel like it was there to punish maya. But what if this isnt really so much about her and akira, but about everyone with a face? I mean especially the loss part and/or been abandonet is something a lot of characters share in one way or the other.

Chika and Chinami, abandonet by father iirc and lost the mother.
Yumi, abandonet by mother, neglected by father.
Ayane, neglected by father, i dont remember anything about her mother right now, not even if she was ever mentioned, so i will just assume she is out of the picture as well.
Sara and Sana, father left, lost bother/son.
Makoto, Maki lost father/husband, i mean he was already so long out of the picture even before his death and neglected by her mother that she started to project her need for a father figure on to him for a while already.
Miku, lost parents.
Futaba, i am not sure if she actually did qualify for the loss/abandonment in any way. At least i cant recal anything in that regard. Feel free to correct if there is something i just dont remember.
Rin, abandonet by both parents and got adopted.
Ami, lost both parents.
Maya, i think we can assume she lost both parents or got abandonet by them? Never clearly stated what, but something is clearly going on.
Molly, i mean she did left her home, family and friends, so i guess that counts? Maybe her mother is dead? At least i always just remember her talking about her father.
Tsuneyo, mother is dead i think, and her father is dying for a few million years by now, you know, how normal do these things.
Uta, she lost her grandfather, or at least i think that was uta.
Io, i dont remember if we ever got told it, but she is living with her aunt, so something must have happened even when i dont remember what.
Nodoka, i have actually no idea. Dont remember if that was ever brought up. But the fact how hard on she is for becomming his daughter has to count for something.
Otoha, i actually have no idea. I mean her parents are still there. But maybe the whole bother thing with him is hinting at something.
Touka, neglected by father.
Yasu, was adopted and after that i guess we can assume those new parents did abandon her as well.
Noriko, Niki, they both got abandoned by Akira.
Kirin, Karin, this is a hard one, because i cant think of anything that would qualify them her.
Haruka, her husband is gone for a while now.
Kaori, isnt it stated that her parents died in the accident? Yeah, think it is and then everyone believed her to be dead as well.
Yuki, did abandon her daugther and i guess she herself didnt really had contact to her family for whatever reason.
Wakana, Osako, i dont know, i mean Wakana did cut ties with her rich family, but beyond that i cant think of anything.
Tsukasa, neglected by the whole family as the backup daughter.
Imani, was there not something about some dead siblings? At least i remember that been implied to be connected to her burns.
Rika, got kicked out by her spouse.
Nao, got clearly abdandoned by her eldritch family. Probably because she was just too creepy even for them.

Edit for some corrections, note of thanks go to LoveBlueHairedGirl.

 

[LoveBlueHairedGirl]

Io, i dont remember if we ever got told it, but she is living with her grandmother, so something must have happened even when i dont remember what.

Io lives with an aunt

Touka, i really dont know.

Her dad is all about his work. And her mom... is cunning? She is in her life TOO much

Noriko, Niki, they both got abandoned by him.

I don't actually remember, but aren't their parents still somewhere there?

 

[Xiondingens]

Io lives with an aunt


The mom is way too protective, and the dad is all about his work.

Oh, yeah, aunt, guess i just did missremember that one. Do you remember if there was ever a clear statement about her parents?

Well, i guess the dad does neglected her. But the mother been overprotective wouldnt really count for this list.

 

[LoveBlueHairedGirl]

Do you remember if there was ever a clear statement about her parents?

No, but in the last dorm war Nodoka said something about sexual abuse from parent. I am talking about Io, btw.

 

[Xiondingens]

No, but in the last dorm war Nodoka said something about sexual abuse from parent.

That was just baseless speculation. I mean clearly something did happen in that regard in one way or the other, but what excactly is just pure baseless speculation at this point.

 

[LoveBlueHairedGirl]

That was just baseless speculation. I mean clearly something did happen in that regard in one way or the other, but what excactly is just pure baseless speculation at this point.

Well, Io's reaction says everything. Either this is completely right or close enough.

 

[Xiondingens]

Well, Io's reaction says everything. Either this is completely right or close enough.

Well, like i said, it is clear that something must have happened regarding
sexual abuse, but that much is clear since uta/io talked about how they both meet in that chatroom/forum/whatever. But i think Io's reaction can easily explained with the cold arrogance nodoka showed by just spitting it out as if it was a fact. And utas reaction can be just explained by her been pissed about how recless she made such a statement about her friend.

I am not saying that it has to be completely off, all i am saying is, so far we just dont know what happened to her. Even tho it is quite easy to assume a female was involved. Just by seeing her distrust to most other females.

 

[TheSeedy1]

Oh goddammit what now Sekai. Can you just not fuck off and stay gone please. REEEE

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LMAO oh Uta - be less precious (impossible) challenge + seeing monster dong.

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[Dc345]

Today is Chika's birthday. We must now praise Chika

 

[Xiondingens]

Meh. Chika is just all about her delusion that she is his girlfriend, the sword of damocles that she might find out that she isnt and caring for her little sister. Most other stuff is more about others. Cause for rin's lovesickness, support character for yumi's character development, introduction of and sidecharacter in tsubasa's storyline, sidecharacter in the maid café and so on.

 

[LoveBlueHairedGirl]

Today is Chika's birthday. We must now praise Chika

PRAISE BE

 

[Kitty Hawk]

Today is Chika's birthday. We must now praise Chika

 

[Nadekai]

It's Last Sovereign time, only game I know that is as long as this.

I finished it too.

 

[Moonflare]

Speaking of Yumi, I'm still wondering if her being on Ami's list will ever be a plot point:

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Frankly, I wonder if Ami's list will even come up again.

I guess it mostly depends on Ami turning psycho and going paper city on people or not. Cause if she doesn't then the list is pointless, might as well include every girl he knows.

If I remember correctly, this list was from way back when she thought girls interested in him were relevant, and now she has a different list of people actually having sex with him (or close to it) which would also render the first one pointless.

 

[TheSeedy1]

Meh. Chika is just all about her delusion that she is his girlfriend, the sword of damocles that she might find out that she isnt and caring for her little sister. Most other stuff is more about others. Cause for rin's lovesickness, support character for yumi's character development, introduction of and sidecharacter in tsubasa's storyline, sidecharacter in the maid café and so on.

Chika slander?! How dare you. I would slap your face with a gauntlet like the days of old for this insult. Chika is wholesome!

And unlike poor Noriko is at least getting to live out her fantasies.

 

[Moonflare]

Meh. Chika is just all about her delusion that she is his girlfriend, the sword of damocles that she might find out that she isnt and caring for her little sister. Most other stuff is more about others. Cause for rin's lovesickness, support character for yumi's character development, introduction of and sidecharacter in tsubasa's storyline, sidecharacter in the maid café and so on.

I praise you on invoking the sword of damocles, cause it's exactly what is is now that I think about it lol

However, I think she's one of the most well rounded characters, we're all sidecharacters in other people's stories - but if you compare her with Futaba, then you see what really is being a sidecharacter. Chika is actively changing her life through these "sidestories".

She finds a mother figure, she gets a better job to take care of her sister, she finds another apartment to also take care of her sister and in pursuit of the life she wants with her boyfriend, she turns out to be an actively great person in her aftercare with Rin, she keeps trying to have Yumi grow and is (maybe overly) keen on bettering herself in relation to how she deals with Akira (blaming her lack of experience in relationships and not measuring up to him).

I agree we're stuck on the denial gag with her, but that's understandable story-wise cause if that shit went down it would cause everything to go down with it, and we need a little more time for the story to reach that point. But even that is somewhat understandable too, because you can interpret it as she trying her hardest to believe in Akira's intentions as to compensate for her own inadequacy in the relationship (in her own naive mind).

 

[k1n5l4y3r]

When i was rereading some old events, i was thinking about what could differentiate the people we interact with the shadow people, you know, those in the background, that may or may not even real people to begin with. And then i thought about it how much some of the characters actually share some traits with akira. Like, guilt, abandonment issues, loss of a important person, self loathing, not been able to let go, not been a good person and all that.

I have often stated that i did believe this whole timeloop thing did feel like it was there to punish maya. But what if this isnt really so much about her and akira, but about everyone with a face? I mean especially the loss part and/or been abandonet is something a lot of characters share in one way or the other.

Chika and Chinami, abandonet by father iirc and lost the mother.
Yumi, abandonet by mother, neglected by father.
Ayane, neglected by father, i dont remember anything about her mother right now, not even if she was ever mentioned, so i will just assume she is out of the picture as well.
Sara and Sana, father left, lost bother/son.
Makoto, Maki lost father/husband, i mean he was already so long out of the picture even before his death and neglected by her mother that she started to project her need for a father figure on to him for a while already.
Miku, lost parents.
Futaba, i am not sure if she actually did qualify for the loss/abandonment in any way. At least i cant recal anything in that regard. Feel free to correct if there is something i just dont remember.
Rin, abandonet by both parents and got adopted.
Ami, lost both parents.
Maya, i think we can assume she lost both parents or got abandonet by them? Never clearly stated what, but something is clearly going on.
Molly, i mean she did left her home, family and friends, so i guess that counts? Maybe her mother is dead? At least i always just remember her talking about her father.
Tsuneyo, mother is dead i think, and her father is dying for a few million years by now, you know, how normal do these things.
Uta, she lost her grandfather, or at least i think that was uta.
Io, i dont remember if we ever got told it, but she is living with her aunt, so something must have happened even when i dont remember what.
Nodoka, i have actually no idea. Dont remember if that was ever brought up. But the fact how hard on she is for becomming his daughter has to count for something.
Otoha, i actually have no idea. I mean her parents are still there. But maybe the whole bother thing with him is hinting at something.
Touka, neglected by father.
Yasu, was adopted and after that i guess we can assume those new parents did abandon her as well.
Noriko, Niki, they both got abandoned by Akira.
Kirin, Karin, this is a hard one, because i cant think of anything that would qualify them her.
Haruka, her husband is gone for a while now.
Kaori, isnt it stated that her parents died in the accident? Yeah, think it is and then everyone believed her to be dead as well.
Yuki, did abandon her daugther and i guess she herself didnt really had contact to her family for whatever reason.
Wakana, Osako, i dont know, i mean Wakana did cut ties with her rich family, but beyond that i cant think of anything.
Tsukasa, neglected by the whole family as the backup daughter.
Imani, was there not something about some dead siblings? At least i remember that been implied to be connected to her burns.
Rika, got kicked out by her spouse.
Nao, got clearly abdandoned by her eldritch family. Probably because she was just too creepy even for them.

Edit for some corrections, note of thanks go to LoveBlueHairedGirl.

Futaba has normal loving parents, Ayane mother left the family hasn't spoken to Ayane in years, Molly mother comited suicide, Nodoka revealed to everyone in the last dorm wars that Io was sexually abused probably by her mother.