It's time to pick the best story teller.... (2 votes per user)

who's the best story teller ?


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Sumodeine

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It's an honor to even be mentioned in the same category as these guys. I don't think I stand a chance of winning, but it's cool to be included.
And for the record, I did indeed vote for myself and I would do it again and again if I could! With a prize like this on the line, you gotta throw morals and ethics out the window and win at all costs.
 

Belle

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I suspect the slow burn of Long Live the Princess' story is working against me here, but that's life. Most of my work so far has been in setup, with only a few parts of the story reaching the payoff yet. It will be interesting to see what people think of my storytelling once the end arrives and all the pieces come together. Either people will be satisfied (one can only hope) or hopelessly disappointed. Time will tell.
 

Huitieme

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It ain't working for me :(
Not here either! :( :unsure:
I'm thinking fix!
I feel like the stupidest man on the planet. Thea Lundgren??? You just have to click on the change vote button and then you'll have your two votes, as did I.
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Alright, so I might have already mentioned that my first vote was for Nottravis (even though I'm really discrete about my fangirlism), well my second vote will favor HopesGaming!
yes,,,, finally someone who tries to say something nice about most of then but can explain why 2 of those are her personal favorite
Alright, so it's justification time! Good thing this is my second to last day at work, and thus I have all the time in the world. Besides, I love the sound sight of my own voice posts, so here it is :D

The ones I didn't vote for:

Philly_Games - Great storyteller here. I discovered Depraved Awakenings while it was already finished, and I was blown away by the story and characterization. "Detective Noir" style was perfectly rendered and perfectly used to incorporate the sex in a believable way, the investigation led to a real threat, the villains were real villains and not just the NTR shit we see in most game as soon as a rival/threat must appear to force artificial feelings unto the player. Nothing of the sort with DA, the game was perfectly executed from start to finish. I wish I could say the same for City of Broken Dreamers, and frankly, the only reason I can't is because I stopped playing after chapter 2. Because it was subpar? Quite the contrary. CoBD has the potentiel to be a fucking crazy experience, and I want to experiment it once all chapters are done. The background is so rich I'm afraid of forgetting bits of lore with every new chapter, so I'm waiting. And it's not easy.

Dr PinkCake - Another huge name. Perhaps DPC's and Philly's games are so high in most lists because both devs have actually finished their previous ones (and with a real ending, not just a botched epilogue). I really liked Acting Lesson, and if it wasn't for one character, I wouldn't think too highly of the game I think. This character is, of course, Liam. Well-fleshed, total bro and funny as hell, I'm also glad the NTR guys got told off. Let's what DPC did be a lesson for all (housefire not withstanding), BLACK GUYS ARE HUMANS TOO. They're not just some fucking NTR devices for insecure manchildren. Tho, while I liked AL, I absolutely adore Being a Dik. The jokes hit the target with me, the girls are shallower than in AL for now (but I do find them prettier - I know, this poll doesn't involve graphics, I'll stick to the writing), but there are only two episodes out, and they're sure to get more interesting as the game goes on. He perfectly recreated the atmosphere of 2000s movies à la American Pie and other teenager movies.

MrJet - Becoming a Rock Star hasn't been here a long time, and yet it feels like it's already one of the big names of the scene. Renders are fantastic, of course, but more than that, it's the way he succeeds in making compelling characters that made me fall in love with the game. Each love interest actually feels like more than a love interest. You've got different type of personalities (the career woman, the singer type, the nymphomaniac nurse, the perky colleague, etc.) and each and every one of them feels fleshed out and not just thrown away for a quick wank. The main story, a boy leaving the family business to create a band, is also well thought off. While less gifted writers would have just make it an excuse to have a MC shagging all the groupies around, here the story really advances, and then MrJet adds some family drama, wolf of wall street vibes, etc. All in all, a great story with interesting characters, yet again :)

Sumodeine - My Sister, My Roommate has been a good enough story from the beginning. I actually applaud Sumodeine for going through the incest route in a refreshing manner (and please, stick to your guns and don't make Nikki a love interest!). The characters are nice and the storyflow is right, and even though I eagerly await for the next update, the writing in MSMR isn't as groundbreaking as some of the other devs on this poll. That being said, Sumo is a master troll/cliffhanger genius :D

Domiek - Here is someone who can write fucking great banter, as it has been said countless times already. But each of these countless times is well-deserved. The story itself might not seem like much, even though having a guy pass as gay to work on a women only gym is a stroke of genius ("did you just assume my gender?"), but what the story may lack is much more than compensated by the way Domiek brings his characters to life. I might be getting ahead of myself here, but I'd bet my left nut (the best one) that Domiek genuily loves the characters he created, and it shows when playing. So don't sell yourself short, man, your place on this poll is more than deserved!

Belle - Long Live the Princess has been the first game I played where I thought: "Gods, porn game can actually have a story?" And what a great story it is! The premises are original as fuck, the clue system allows for real investment into the story and the character's background, each character has their own personality and Belle is hilarious as well as sexy as hell. Unfortunately (for me), this game is following the same path than CoBD, meaning I now wish for it to be finished so I could really dive into it with everything it has to offer.

CheekyGimp - This one will be harder to review, mainly because I've been playing Where The Heart Is for a few days now (and almost at the end). I started it recently, and while I do think the writing is clearly better than a lot of games here, I find this game lacking a little relatively to the other ones on this poll. Let it be clear that I find in no way that WTHI is a mediocre game, or even merely a good one, nope. WTHI is a really good game, but the plot itself is really more of a background noise to me. Actually, this is the kind of game that I usually play for a few minutes then just delete, but I haven't been able to do that with WTHI. When I've finished playing, I just save and comes back later to continue the story, so I guess there must be something that keeps me returning to it, I just can't define it. Might be that I find Katie the cutest thing since dwarf rabbits...



The two devs that won my heart vote:

HopesGaming - The DeLuca family is my second favorite adult game ever (take a guess at which one's my first). HopesGaming's writing is nothing short of wonderful because he gives us characters and storylines in which we feel fully invested. The girls all have their own issues, their own needs and desires, and are so well written that it is physically difficult not to fall in love with each of them each time their personal story progresses. Then, you have the overarching plot, full of mysteries and secrets soon to be discovered (or not). Finally, add a competent MC, who is not a creepy kid spying at his mother showering... But I don't think it is fair to compare it to the likes of Big Brother's MC. Pepito DeLuca (Yes, Pepito, I name it as I want) is a great MC in and on himself, regardless of other failures games.

Nottravis - Alright, I hope you liked the previous wall of text, because here I come. Heavy Fucking Five is a UFO (pun intended) in the world of adult gaming. I could go on and on about the writing, the plot, the characters, and this is exactly what I'll be doing for the next twenty minutes of your reading life.
The plot is something that is both quite intriguing in its premises and devilishly complex in its implications throughout the story. You play Lieutenant Pepito Massiveshlong who's been sent on a last minute mission to repair a power supply dysfunction on Ophion Station. On the way there, the ship you're in suffer from an unknown issue and you have the option to nut up or shut up. I won't tell you any further because spoiling this gem of a game would be doing a disservice to anyone who hasn't played it yet (do it). Let's just say that every choices you make as Lieutenant Massiveshlong will lead you to several different points in the story, where your choices will once again give you a special taylor-made experience.
The characters all have something special that sets them appart from each other and from other VN's ones. I won't go into details, but the women and the men have real interactions with the MC and between each other. Depending on your choices, they will treat you as a friend, a potential fuck buddy, a lover, a hostile, an asshole. Just name it, Heavy Five has it.
All that being said, one reason the writing here shines through is that while the complexity of it all is breath taking, it is all coherent. There's nothing that the dev pulled out of her ass at the last minute just to please these or those noisy fans. The entire plot has been well thought out even before the chapter 1 was released, and it shows. Quality always shows.
I'm going to stop here or my fangirlism will start to show as well :p

tl;dr only great devs in this here poll, but HopesGaming and Nottravis are something more :)
 
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frap

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It's an honor to even be mentioned in the same category as these guys. I don't think I stand a chance of winning, but it's cool to be included.
And for the record, I did indeed vote for myself and I would do it again and again if I could! With a prize like this on the line, you gotta throw morals and ethics out the window and win at all costs.
But, did you vote for yourself multiple times? ;)

Vote early! Vote often! (Isn't that how that goes?)

Really, though, it's too bad we can't do this as ranked voting. All the choices are top-notch, so picking one (or even two) is damn difficult.

That said, I had to go with Nottravis - H5 includes lore, backstory, relatable characters, and a fully-realized, fleshed-out universe in which it's set. Something that even gets glossed over in some TV Sci-Fi and I've read too many bad novels where the world-building is skipped. Science Fiction is my jam, and when done well, like H5, it has to win my vote.

Sumodeine - the way you handled the trouble with Eric was top-notch. Interested/worried how this will play out in future releases.

Domiek - the build-up of Amy (and that she finds her strength in giving herself up as a slut) was incredibly well-handled, and could have turn into a pile of feces rather quickly if poorly written.

DrPinkCake - BAD doesn't hold me as well as Acting Lessons did, so I'm giving it a few before I go back to it. That said, AL had the serious feels while still maintaining, overall, the sweet sensibility it deserved. (What? No, it's dust in my eye... yeah.)

Belle - LLtP is a fun, silly romp with some serious story woven throughout. Keep it up!

Philly_Games - DA was a rollercoaster, and still gets replays. I haven't started COBD yet, but it's on my shortlist.

Finally, MrJet - I haven't played BaR, but seeing that you're in this crowd of heavy-hitters I'm adding it to my shortlist as well.
 
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Nottravis

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I suspect the slow burn of Long Live the Princess' story is working against me here, but that's life. Most of my work so far has been in setup, with only a few parts of the story reaching the payoff yet. It will be interesting to see what people think of my storytelling once the end arrives and all the pieces come together. Either people will be satisfied (one can only hope) or hopelessly disappointed. Time will tell.
Belle, if it hadn't been for LLTP there wouldn't be a H5. Every game I'd seen up until then (concedes she hadn't seen them all of course) was rather dire. LLTP made me realise that games didn't have to be a mess of tropes and teenage boys...
 

Belle

Developer of Long Live the Princess
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Belle, if it hadn't been for LLTP there wouldn't be a H5. Every game I'd seen up until then (concedes she hadn't seen them all of course) was rather dire. LLTP made me realise that games didn't have to be a mess of tropes and teenage boys...
Thanks! I must admit that I've never played your game (I barely play other adult games anymore), but I'm going to give it a try. I promise. :)
 

OhWee

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NOT ME!!! For me, story is that thing I pay lip service to to get from one sexy situation to the next. More nekkid chicks, less story! I like to let the pictures tell the story.
:D

There are some good storytellers around here, kudos to them, for keeping the art of storytelling alive!
 
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Rythan25

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Philly and Jet easily for me... they have the best story telling as far as serious plots go.

Sudo and Domiek are awesome and would tie for 2nd place due to me enjoying their comedic writing, they just know how to make you smile...

Next would be Dr Pink... Brilliant writer, but I dont appreciate drawing from his personal life and making the rest of us sad... if it was a linear story fine... but when you throw in 12-15 endings, and not a single one is the one most people actually WANT... it kinda costs you some points.

After him its Nottravis, Belle and Hopes... Hope's story is more interesting to me from these three (he is the writer for Deluca right ? its just same as Belle, the updates are very light on story due to the sandbox nature of their games... Nottravis on the contrary has more plot per update, but less sexy...

Cheeky would be last as I dont even remember what he wrote... which is odd as I usualy remember what people made... even the bad games like Slonique or Ddunfol... or the scam ones like Gumdrop and 3Diddly...

EDIT - realized who cheeky was.. writer of Where the Heart Is... I would put him in the same level with Nottravis, Belle and Hopes... The story isnt super special awesome, but where it shines is in the personality of the characters (the ball-busting gym-rat notwithstanding), the dialogue between character is also damn good... again ignoring Katie trying to act like a dumb cold bitch thinking it makes her cool...
 
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Fantabaldu

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I suspect the slow burn of Long Live the Princess' story is working against me here, but that's life. Most of my work so far has been in setup, with only a few parts of the story reaching the payoff yet. It will be interesting to see what people think of my storytelling once the end arrives and all the pieces come together. Either people will be satisfied (one can only hope) or hopelessly disappointed. Time will tell.
From my player side i can tell you not only that i like your game very much , but from a Fantasy Books lover like i'm , Long Live the Princess is probably the game with the best ,fantasy main theme, written that a person can find in this Forum . But for me more relevant and unique in your games is the original mechanics to play , with the use of the Clue that is really interesting.
Probably like you said your game it will be more appreciate when it will be completed ; the possibility to play your game from the begin to the start i think it will be really relevant to have a mayor immersion in all contents that there are in tour game .
So my complete judgment about you story telling is of course already pretty good , but in every case i prefer to leave it a little bit suspended , because i think that only playing your whole project , more than for other games not already completed , ic can be a really mayor and complete satisfaction
 
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OhWee

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now you two crazy kids.... you'll compare how to make easter eggs in games...
Step 1. Open Daz. Create a sphere primitive with a sufficient number of faces.
Step 2. Stretch the sphere. Maybe send to Hexagon to widen one end.
Step 3. Apply suitable shader to 'egg'.
Step 4. Add egg to scene.

Alternatively, find an Egg.obj on the net somewhere.

Sorry, couldn't resist!
 

anne O'nymous

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It's just, both technically and humanly, impossible to make a choice.

Philly, Hopes and Nottravis, to name only three, are all really great writers, but they are also telling us three totally different stories. How can you tell if Philly's dark thrillers are better than Hopes' mystery, or the opposite ? And Nottravis's SciFi one is yet something totally different that just can't be compared to them.

Plus, there's few missing names. Where's DarthSeduction ? Despite Seraphim Academy being in an unknown state since many times, he's a great story teller. Same for Veqvil and his Love and Submission. Hopes and Nottravis know how much I'm in love with their writing, but I would put Veqvil above them for this part. His mastering of the writing is in fact above every name in your list. He not only know how to write well, but he also know how to play with the media to raise reader's feelings.
And what about BlueCat ? His Ecchi Sensei have few problems, but it seem clear for me that the lack in the narration part come more from his difficulty to adapt to the media, than his own writing capabilities. Or what about the writer that now help Mr Knobb ? The second part of his Retrieving The Past have really benefited from this addition, and now that they are both clearly in place and that they've corrected the few problems coming from the first part, the story is even more interesting, and now well handled.

I named four, but a little voice in my head tell me that I'm still missing some names.
 

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Very difficult to pick a best 2. We can't fully judge incomplete games like BaDIK or CoBD and it's especially hard to compare different devs when some like Belle only have one incomplete game. Plus there's a difference between sheer storytelling (plot, world-building, pacing) and general characterisation and dialogue. Some games are more story-focused whereas others are more character-focused.

With Philly_Games I though Depraved Awakening was great but it didn't really blow me away. I honestly can't remember too much of the plot or the characters. I like the world-building of CoBD but I find that he uses too much awkward exposition to tell what's happening e.g. *Gasps*, "Gloria begins to sway", *Begins to make gun sound effects*, "More typing comes across the screen", etc. So I find CoBD's writing to be a bit clunky compared to the other devs on the list.

Acting Lessons from DPC was maybe a little over-dramatic and the plot/pacing may have not been perfect but the game had great emotional impact. BaDIK seems to be a solid improvement, the writing quality so far is great and more consistent across different scenes and characters. A very promising game.

I think Belle and Long Live the Princess are massively underrated. He keeps his writing very transparent, conveying information, dialogue and humour very smoothly. As I said, it's kind of hard to pit him against giants like DPC and Philly who not only have a completed game already, but also use a more linear VN style.

HopesGaming is amazing. The chemistry and banter between characters is great. There are so many interesting, well designed characters. But like LLtP by Belle we don't have that much plot to go by at the moment.

I find Heavy Five by Nottravis unique in the sense that I don't really like any of the main women visually but the writing and plot was enough for me to continue checking it out. The game seems well researched and the MC's dialogue remains convincing no matter how you choose to make him act.

So, I guess in terms of actually "telling a story" I'd pick Philly and Nottravis. But overall I prefer Belle and HopesGaming for their characterisation, humour and consistency.
 

Belle

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I have to say, it's kind of weird not seeing Akabur in this poll. Is he yesterday's news or something? His writing is the pinnacle of brevity and snappy comedy in adult gaming, I feel like. To the point where half the other games out there try to copy his style (unsuccessfully in almost every case, I might add).

Okay, he doesn't have the most compelling storylines, but as far as telling them goes, he's a master.
 

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TL;DR Games are great, writing is great, devs are great, play the great games, great! :) Although if you didn't read my reviews, that's rude, now go back and read them :cautious::rolleyes:
 

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Philly, Hopes and Nottravis, to name only three, are all really great writers, but they are also telling us three totally different stories. How can you tell if Philly's dark thrillers are better than Hopes' mystery, or the opposite ? And Nottravis's SciFi one is yet something totally different that just can't be compared to them.
I think that's a really good point, but I also think that's a really good thing too. We're all going to like different things (be a boring world if we didn't!) and I think it's good for the "industry" that we have so much choice in different styles etc.

I find Heavy Five by Nottravis unique in the sense that I don't really like any of the main women visually but the writing and plot was enough for me to continue checking it out. The game seems well researched and the MC's dialogue remains convincing no matter how you choose to make him act.
For some reason that really got me in the "feels". Thank you :)
 

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First, truly honored to be included. Thank you.

Second, some lone sucker voted for me so I feel like I need to disclose that that sucker wasn't me. My vote went to Philly.

Third, there's some great story tellers listed here and I'm not sure I belong. My story makes one ask the deeper questions in life like "Am I high?.... Was the dev high while writing this"?

Don't get me wrong, this isn't a cry for help or fishing for attention. I think I have a pretty good game but it's not because of the story. These devs have displayed some truly great writing with deep thought behind it. I'm just throwing random Harry Potter quotes during orgasm while we dodge the phantom pooper who shits in the skee-ball machine at the arcade.

Actually... that's pretty fucking awesome. I take that all back, vote for me!
I wouldn't sell yourself short, if this wasn't about plot (not that type) your characters could give other devs a run for their money. Sure Hopes, Philly and DrWaifuCreatorPink have great stories, settings and chara- I mean waifus, yours are definitely one of my favorites. I remember every single character and most the interactions (especially mc cucking that asshole) despite usually forgetting most things about other games (I play too many pron games help).

This poll is kinda hard though, we have so many great creators these days so it makes me wanna vote for everyone since I know/played almost all the games on this list. Might have been more interesting for a few teams instead, for example best story devs versus best plot devs (yeah that kinda plot wink wink). At this rate there will be tons of waifu war threads and dev threads, ruh-roh shaggy kinda want that to happen now...
 

anne O'nymous

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I think that's a really good point, but I also think that's a really good thing too. We're all going to like different things (be a boring world if we didn't!) and I think it's good for the "industry" that we have so much choice in different styles etc.
I totally agree, and it's also part of why the comparison isn't really possible, it's not necessarily easy to get ride of its own preferences, and so of its own subjectivity.
By example, thrillers aren't really my things, so subjectively Philly is less a good writer for me, same for Belle. I love his humor, but I don't know, his writing isn't for me. There's also another one, a newcomer in the scene, who's an amazing writer... but he's telling a story that I can't read because it fall really to near to home for the widow I am ; it's a shame that I can't remember his name.
But objectively, both Philly, Belle, and this newcomer, are as great writers as Hopes and you by example. They are just not the kind of writers I tend to like, or aren't telling a story that appeal me.