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Madison Springs Old Perv is actually Santi gone down hill.
He's the father of all these girls that's why he's reliving his glory days through the MC.
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He's the father of all these girls that's why he's reliving his glory days through the MC.
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That's actually one thing/save I have never done actually. Maybe because Layla really doesn't do anything for me at all.
Most of the girls in intertwined were like that, its why Nikki saved the game for me, especially since all the older / more mature interests we're never going to be a real option anyways.
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What if he's... Santiago's father(making him grandpa).Madison Springs Old Perv is actually Santi gone down hill.
He's the father of all these girls that's why he's reliving his glory days through the MC.
There's the issue that he stood by while his wife(grandma) wanted an abortion...
But i think i could gel with him over our love for big tiddies and philandering lol.
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Like grandfather, like father, like son
The trinity of two-timing
The trio of tomcatting
The Hannibals of Harems
The Manwhores of Madison Springs
The Valentinos of VNs
The Cocks of Coupling
The Bastards of Birth Control
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Maybe you're right, but...
For starter, Ethan have a might and control over her photoshoots and other stuff she attends, I suppose. I don't think he would allow Zane to be close to her even for work purposes. I mean, he is mad and jealous at the same time on any who stands between him and Erynn. And this photoshoot was kinda "special".
Secondly, I don't think that Erynn would had invited MC, especially when they are more than friends to such a photoshoot. Like, you know, "I like you MC, so come on, check out how I will undress in front of the other guy and let him touch me and do stuff on the camera. I bet you'll enjoy it!". She definitely wanted MC to help her and it explains well why they stay only friends after, if MC refuses to participate in photoshoot. And so then, she definitely knew that Zane will not be there in advance. Otherwise it have absolutely no sense.
Well, maybe Gabi's current husband she had a phone call with is that another agent which was with Santi together at the training camp race. But he seems too old for her. On the other hand... this may explain her interest in school/college boys around, because their intimate life should be shitty. But it doesn't exclude the possibility that Santi was married with her for some time. On the other hand... I doubt that she would place a huge picture of herself and Santi, being married with another man. But picture dissapeared after the training camp and if MC affair with her is continued. We know that she waited for Layla's visit to give her Spanish private lesson, and in this case she probably know quite well who is Santi to Layla, so she removed the picture beforehand.
Sounds plausible. Maybe he prefer the life w/o obligations and Adriana is ok with that. Another possibility to make things between MC, Alexis & Layla "legal" again is his divorce or break up with Adriana, whatever reason is. This may also explain the Gabi & MC path, because MC seen the pictures and now knows who Santi is. This reminds of Andres & Haley and how they relationship handled in game according to player choices. They break up anyway, just in a bit different ways and time. So, Gabi's affair with MC may trigger something too.
After a little thought, I found additional clues. Val was embarrassed (at least she pretended to make it look like that) when MC is accidently seen her bikini photo in the school bus. She was on yacht. 2+2, this means that she is from wealthy family, kinda. I don't think she had a problem with MC seeing her in bikini (she is not shy, she is just pretending and plays along), but the reason she was on yacht in that photo. Her slowburning interest in MC and such pace could be the reason she wants to "test" him and to be sure that he is more interested in her rather than in her family, status and wealth. Being on her path, it's only a matter of time, when MC will visit her place and learn who her parents are (mom at least).I agree on Val-Ximena-Gabi, it makes for an interesting connection with Gabi essentially being an "aunt" to Valeria, and Ximena also seems ready to become a problem (and i'm here for it
Nyx keeps showing us these hot Milfs but they always remain out of reach(Gabi is only "milf adjacent"), hopefully Ximena will break this streak.
I think the only problem here would be the MC's affair with Gabi. In case with Alexis - Val clearly says him to make his mind and pick one. In case with Layla - Val is off the game by herself, because she sees how much Layla likes him and they kinda became friends.
Yeah, and it's the only one scenario when Layla fully done with MC and not his friend anymore (also Elena & Val following her by the chain and breaks any relations with MC after that). She even stays friends with him when MC picks Elena over her, so it explains a lot. Both sisters can forgive almost everything, even doing hurt one of them, but not both and in such way.
I think the real disaster is getting the status of "no friends" (MC_nofriends variable). Not helping Erynn with Ethan, while having affair with Alexis in the past and not telling Layla about this in the camp as well as not doing good with Cara/Nikki or breaking up with them right after Alexis & Layla performance). Game really becomes boring as well as MC's life, so much events and interactions being skipped. Add here the 0 RP with Emily and this world is really burning.
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i wonder what elena or was it val will say when she finds out that mc bangs her mother (gabi)?
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Good catch on Mr. Coleman. I wonder if that's just a coincidence that he's there or is he one of Ethan's clients?Mr. Coleman, school geography teacher:
At the "Prestige" bar-club:
COLEMAN: I know Layla is a cute girl.
That seems plausible. Her mother could have earned a lot of money from her acting career or at the very least get to hang out with her richer acting colleagues with Val accompanying her.
The slow burn could be both your family, status, wealth reasons and another theory that Val was deeply hurt by a past relationship and has decided to be more cautious.
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you Mean Mr Coleman the Andres to Erynn´s father John...
Mr. Coleman knew very well why he was there...
i mean he used to date Mel and than a biker asshole came around and stole his girl and got her pregnant!
he may now say he dropped the slag but the truth is that Mel told him to sod off...
to rub salt on his wound 14 years later the child of his shame shows up to his class...
when he finally got rid of her after 4 years of pure hell between
the desire to hug and kiss her forehead and tell her that he should be his father...
and his darker side seeing how she resembles her mother when she was younger
and how much he wished he would have ravaged her harder and in darker ways the cheating skank!
when he finally got rid of her... she started modelling... fuck...
why is he buying teenager girls magazines and jerking off at Erynn´s pictures...
its not really pictures of Erynn tough...
he is remembering how sweet and pure Mel used to be before that demon on 2 wheels corrupted her!
fuck fuck fuck, he then discovers that Erynn is working has an escort, he puts down his lifesaving
for what...? he doesn´t even know himself... one part of him....
just wants to hug her and tell her everything will be ok they will be family now!
but another darker part just wants to call her Mel and taste the sweet salt of her tears
to love and forgive and let go of the past... or....
to taste revenge record the evidence and show it to Mel
to tell her she fucked up when she refused his proposal!
fuck... he is the good guy right?
he was willing to take a pregnant girl as his wife to love her and keep her honor
the 1st child would be a gift, a sacrifice he made on the altar of his love for Mel..
all others children would be the fruit of that sacrifice...
but she dared to laugh at him and call him pathetic...
he was downing whiskey´s trying to figure what he really wanted!
love or revenge, to be free of the past or...
bath in the warm glory of his righteous avenging actions!
when that... that... satan biker showed up again
once again he was refused his sweet sweet revenge... or is it a family and love?
whatever, the bikers shows up and Mel is no longer available for him...again...
fuck that asshole, he must die!
Well, Erynn openly states that she didn't know who the client hired to work with her that day, she only knew it would be a guy not another girl.
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Playing Intertwined for a long time i'm trained not to expect these things to be simple coincidences, it's probably the same Zane and he works as a model to make some extra cash, Erynn just isn't aware of this yet.
The main reason for the MC volunteers to attend that shoot was to protect Erynn from Ethan, kinda act like a bodyguard, it led to other things but that's besides the point.
I agree that it is weird that Erynn is cool with the MC watching her shoot nude pictures with another dude but oh well... and this is something that doesn't change wether the guy is Zane or not, and she knew she was working with "some guy".
The best excuse i can muster is that maybe she didn't know about the nudes until she arrived at the shoot, and maybe she was told while talking to the client and photographer or having her make up done, but yeah very dodgy for her normal behaviour.
In regards to Ethan, he seems quite loose with normal assignments, when Erynn is doing normal modeling jobs he doesn't seem to pay much attention, rarely ever shows up...
As i said i don't think she's married right now... she never has a wedding ring when we see her during the game, she only has a ring in the photo, Nyx wouldn't bother giving her a ring in the photo and then never having a ring in "real time" if she's not divorced right?
And of course i agree that she can't be married to someone else and have a giant picture of Santiago in her bedroom...
Santiago being in another relationship himself(regardless if it's an actual marriage or just living together), probably ran for the hills upon seeing Gabi hang that picture with an obvious message.
Even if they aren't married she still could be talking to Santiago over the phone, people who have affairs talk and call each other, it's not reserved just for married couples.
She was disappointed that someone didn't stop and talked to her in person before leaving the camp, it could only be Santiago or the recruiter that is friends with him... Santiago the more likely candidate.
Gabi probably expected Santiago to dump Adriana for her, but he has no plans of doing that(and she kinda takes it out on Layla since she can't touch Adriana her boss).
From her conversations with Ximena, and the fact that she's going to clubs... i get the feeling that they have ended things, she didn't want to talk about "him".
When Emily dropped the news that he was having a son to Santiago he ran for the hills, sounds like a guy who doesn't want commitment right? The type of guy who would be happy in a relationship where he has no legal obligations...
And Adriana having lost the father of Alexis/Layla maybe was ok with just sharing a house without any legal entanglements.
And in my opinion using whatever Gabi and Santi have/had to break him up from Adriana is the most interesting route this thing could go.
Val comes from money no doubt, the Ximena connection would be one easy answer here, it just fits, a rich woman that is also latina(aside from the obvious that Nyx uses the Ximena model for Val's mom).
About Gabi, i don't think Val is aware there's something going on to take a step back, a realtionship with a student is a big secret for Gabi surely, and she isn't revealing that to anyone, not even Ximena... and no one ever caught them together.
It's not simply what relationships you have, it's what relationships the characters in game become aware... Val has seen you with either Alexis or Layla, so she reacts a certain way.
On the other hand she has no idea if you are more than friends with Erynn... so she acts like there's nothing going on.
Same thing for Gabi, she simply doesn't know.
And from Gabi's side she never saw you do anything special with Valeria, so she doesn't have anything to say...
She can show jealousy towards Layla however, she's not fully aware of the relationship status but she's seen things.
Yeah, it's awful, everything locked... at this point it's just Tori or Gabi(which you may have already blew).
Small hope that Brooke maybe wants to try hetero.
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I think you're right here too. Even if I still doubt some points, I probably got it in wrong way or got just a little confused anyway. Honestly I thought that it was an Erynn's set-up from the beginning. That she knew about the guy won't show up and craved for MC to attend and participate. But the probability that she might not have known about the most "interesting" part of the photo shoot or just forgot is also quite high.
The outcomes of this choice can also be viewed from the other side. If MC wants more than friendship from her, then theoretically he shouldn't have a problem doing a nude photoshoot with Erynn together. And his refusal rolls back their relationship to the friendzone. Nothing changes when they already in friendzone, but even there she is still upset.
And yeah, Ethan probably is all and fully into his own side and dark business, he is her agent mostly for his own reasons and he don't care that much of her "normal" work she does.
Can't blame Nyx for lack of details or attention to them, so yeah. Gabi is not married currently, most probably. But she definitely have some past with Santi. So, it's also quite plausible that she wanted to meet and talk to him at the training camp after race, maybe convince him to have some "fun". In such a case her interest in MC maybe explained that he looks very similar to Santi, which reminds her of him, rather than unhappy marriage with older man or something else.
Regarding Layla, I have no idea how Gabi would take it out on Layla. Adriana is principal (Gabi's boss) and her mother and we know that Layla hate Spanish and 0 (zero) in it. She warned her about test and exams beforehand and even offers the private lessons (if MC is out of it). She might just get her a good score on test and/or exam but she doesn't do it, as well as any other teacher. They don't lick her ass or trying to please her just because she is a principal's daughter. And it's quite right for both sides. She may be jealous or even mad on her internally, but she doesn't do anything wrong to her and she treat her right and according to how Layla doing with this class. Gabi doesn't refuse to give Layla private lessons even when she knows about MC & Layla relationship. On the other hand, she gives Layla the good score if MC tutored her beforehand. So, Gabi anyway treats Layla right and according to how good she is doing.
Exactly. But it must be Santi's permanent lifetime attitude then. It's understandable when you're young, have rich parents and a whole life ahead of you. But kinda strange for about a 40's growed up man. Anyway, different last names, no wedding rings and Patreon rules makes it the most plausible version. It played out once with Andres, Haley and her daughters, so why not repeat something similar again? Thin ice, but trick is being predictable already. Not too much room to experiment here actually.
The burning world is better with a blue balls, no shit. So, blackmailing Gabi and fucking Tori just once and then telling her to fuck off (or better losing the race, haha) is a good add-on to the worst playthrough ever
Brooke... well, since if someone decided to cosplay MC as a total villain fuckboy and jerk... No flirting, no photo's with this hottie as well. Also "son of the year edition" with 0 RP for Emily, remember? No friends and no hoes, right? I'm not a big fan of such playthroughs, either. But when game allows you to fuck up almost everything and drags shit and tracks all outcomes till the end - it's fine and deserved to play in such way at least once (completionist is talking).
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I've been to these things in real life and the models having only the faintest idea of what they are going to be doing is something i can believe quite easily, so i never questioned her not knowing who she was going to be working with or being surprised that they were waiting for "Zane"...
She didn't know who the photographer was going to be either, only after she got there she saw it was the guy who days before held her up for hours.
At some point they would have mentioned topless photos, this is the type of request that probably would've been brought up before signing, but maybe it was only explained after she arrived and she "forgot" about it while being excited to take pictures with the MC...
And Ethan is 100% a shitty agent that only cares about his gains on the dark side of the business, that shouldn't be a question.
It also helps explain how she didn't know anything, the hiring process probably looks like him telling the client "yeah she's available" and then sending her a text to go to this place for a shoot, the end.
Nyx put Gabi with a ring in that poster only for her not to have anything in current time, Nyx who loves to insert little details(like Coleman attends the gentleman's club) in her images wouldn't miss that... no way it just slips Nyx's mind continuously.
Adriana also never uses a ring btw
.And yeah they were something to each other, you don't hang a huge picture of your "former agent" in your bedroom wall or keep photos from when you first met in your nightstand.
I believe Nyx is going for a guy who never truly matured, he looks like a respectable member of society... like he's a well adjusted guy in a long term relationship, but in truth he's going behind his "wife" back to fuck younger women, fucks girls he works with(if Gabi is an example)... and probably would fuck Emily again if given the chance.
Kinda of a warning to the player not to enjoy fucking around too much lol.
With all this, i think "they decided to just keep things going like this" kinda works... he's there with Adriana and her daughters... but if necessary he wants to jump ship with as little hassle as possible.
Despite being revealed as a cheater, Andres did want to sign the papers, from how long Santiago seems to be living in that house(with the girls calling him dad seamlessly)... He's probably in this "let's keep it that way, why change something that is working?" for life.
I get what you are saying, but being in a "relationship" with Tori, who everybody knows has been around the block, isn't exactly loyal and hasn't shown that she cares about you that much (and even then only if you win) it's a nice "prize" for a guy like that.The burning world is better with a blue balls, no shit. So, blackmailing Gabi and fucking Tori just once and then telling her to fuck off (or better losing the race, haha) is a good add-on to the worst playthrough ever
I'm not a big fan of such playthroughs, either. But when game allows you to fuck up almost everything and drags shit and tracks all outcomes till the end - it's fine and deserved to play in such way at least once (completionist is talking).
Truer words have not been spoken.
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HAIRDRESSER VIXENS, PERVY GEOGRAPHY TEACHERS AND BIKER ASSHOLES
Sounds like a B movie I would enjoy. That's a great love triangle.
I don't know if any of you guys have mentioned it already, but Erynn seems to have a pattern (Nyx's conscious or unconscious writing choices) to get into situations where potentially another guy gets to watch her doing things naked/half-naked with another guy. The negative version of that is of course the sex tape blackmail narrative thread with Zane and Ethan. The positive version of it is the modeling consensual photo shoot with the MC.
Were it not for the trauma from the sex tape blackmail, I would have thought this would hint at Erynn liking people to watch her and her partner have sex.
She also burns daggers into you and Mama Brooke at work. So even though Gabi tells the MC not to fall in love with her, she may be falling herself or is at least quite possessive.
As Kpyna puts it, if Nyx allows the player to get into burning world, scorched earth or lonely limbo scenarios, does that mean Nyx will write a redemption arc for the MC to get back into everyone's good graces or are we doomed to wander the Earth (Madison Springs) like Cain from the bible with only a hetero-curious Brooke as a distant hope?The burning world is better with a blue balls, no shit. So, blackmailing Gabi and fucking Tori just once and then telling her to fuck off (or better losing the race, haha) is a good add-on to the worst playthrough ever
I'm not a big fan of such playthroughs, either. But when game allows you to fuck up almost everything and drags shit and tracks all outcomes till the end - it's fine and deserved to play in such way at least once (completionist is talking).
(Well, there's still Gina and Sha'Carri. We haven't screwed that up yet. And revenge fucked Natasha to get back at Zach.)
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