Ren'Py Finding Cloud 9 [v0.3.1] [Onyx Decadence]

[Onyx Decadence]

Hi,
I saw the new update and looked for the future tags.
I'm guessing that you got side-tracked and forgot to list them.
I'll continue to put this on hold until you get to that.
I learned a long time ago not to get invested in characters and stories without knowing what fetishes the creator had in mind to add. Too often we get an unpleasant surprise that ruins the VN for us.
Listing your future tags is the best way to find your intended audience. Until you do many people are going to be cautious about supporting your art.
I wish you the best.

Hey. Thanks for the informative comment. I've updated the Genre Spoiler with planned tags. You can take a look. You won't find NTR here, that's 100%. Neither will there be any other niche fetishes. I might've missed some general ones, but that about sums it up. Let me know if I've still left things unclear

 

[UnoriginalUserName]

Just a heads up; progressing through text too quickly, either by clicking or text-skipping, results in what I guess you'd call the "system messages" getting stuck on the screen, so "Journal Updated" or "So-and-So Approves" etc until the next such message appears.
It's annoying to say the least.

 

[Onyx Decadence]

Just a heads up; progressing through text too quickly, either by clicking or text-skipping, results in what I guess you'd call the "system messages" getting stuck on the screen, so "Journal Updated" or "So-and-So Approves" etc until the next such message appears.
It's annoying to say the least.

Thanks! I'll take a look at it.

 

[Renetta]

Well hot damn, this game shows a lot of promise. Keep at it Onyx Decadence

 

[yourmomma]

Hey. Thanks for the informative comment. I've updated the Genre Spoiler with planned tags. You can take a look. You won't find NTR here, that's 100%. Neither will there be any other niche fetishes. I might've missed some general ones, but that about sums it up. Let me know if I've still left things unclear

Aw man, I was really hoping we'd have the option of having the hot milf be the main star of our porn empire. Oh well. I'll still follow, because I'm a glutton for punishment and a big horn ball.

 

[Onyx Decadence]

Aw man, I was really hoping we'd have the option of having the hot milf be the main star of our porn empire. Oh well. I'll still follow, because I'm a glutton for punishment and a big horn ball.

Hey! There is a Milf tag in there somewhere.

 

[goulet1995]

Hey. Thanks for the informative comment. I've updated the Genre Spoiler with planned tags. You can take a look. You won't find NTR here, that's 100%. Neither will there be any other niche fetishes. I might've missed some general ones, but that about sums it up. Let me know if I've still left things unclear

you put harem but in post earlier said you dont see all the girls being ok with sharing the mc so will it only be partial harem? And based on what you said about ntr im asuming the Voyeurism tag would be for peeking on one of the girls in the shower or something similar and not watching other characters in sexual situation with eachother?

 

[Onyx Decadence]

you put harem but in post earlier said you dont see all the girls being ok with sharing the mc so will it only be partial harem? And based on what you said about ntr im asuming the Voyeurism tag would be for peeking on one of the girls in the shower or something similar and not watching other characters in sexual situation with eachother?

Correct. Partial Harem. No NTR. I couldn't really put in Genre spoiler anything like that, since I was going with the guidelines. There are no Negative Tags like No-Ntr or 'partial' tags like Partial Harem.

 

[Tiur]

Correct. Partial Harem. No NTR. I couldn't really put in Genre spoiler anything like that, since I was going with the guidelines. There are no Negative Tags like No-Ntr or 'partial' tags like Partial Harem.

The basic guidelines do not say you can't add more information within the Genre spoiler, and the tag list is woefully inadequate. Take a look at the My Dorm Genre spoiler to see an example of what a good Genre spoiler looks like, with Planned tags, Never happening tags, and more detail about each controversial tag's status (avoidable/more clarification/etc.) This information can also be put in the Developer Notes spoiler, if the dev doesn't want to use the Genre spoiler for it for whatever reason.

As for partial harem vs true harem, as the writer I'd assume characterization and narrative is up to you. Generally speaking, I've never seen people who minded if an LI's characterization slips enough to permit sharing of an MC, other than aggressively anti-harem people. With a reluctant harem member (e.g. one who thinks "I don't want to share, but I'd rather share than not have anything with [the MC]."), it can even introduce some mild conflict dynamics that can occasionally be enjoyable. Hell, the default harem queen/enabler in Sorcerer actively does not want to share, but she encourages it to strengthen the house.

 

[Onyx Decadence]

The basic guidelines do not say you can't add more information within the Genre spoiler, and the tag list is woefully inadequate. Take a look at the My Dorm Genre spoiler to see an example of what a good Genre spoiler looks like, with Planned tags, Never happening tags, and more detail about each controversial tag's status (avoidable/more clarification/etc.) This information can also be put in the Developer Notes spoiler, if the dev doesn't want to use the Genre spoiler for it for whatever reason.

As for partial harem vs true harem, as the writer I'd assume characterization and narrative is up to you. Generally speaking, I've never seen people who minded if an LI's characterization slips enough to permit sharing of an MC, other than aggressively anti-harem people. With a reluctant harem member (e.g. one who thinks "I don't want to share, but I'd rather share than not have anything with [the MC]."), it can even introduce some mild conflict dynamics that can occasionally be enjoyable. Hell, the default harem queen/enabler in Sorcerer actively does not want to share, but she encourages it to strengthen the house.

Thanks for this info. This clears up several things for me. I'll update stuff accordingly
You kinda hit the nail on the head. There will be conflict dynamics involved, yes. The player will have the opportunity to enjoy all the girls. But closer to the end, with a few girls, the player will have the option of going exclusive, and as a reward, the player will get some special content with that girl. after all, it has the romance tag. in the midst of the all the sexual fun the MC will have, I want to have some good old vanilla romance, too.

 

[HUNUTAN]

Correct. Partial Harem. No NTR. I couldn't really put in Genre spoiler anything like that, since I was going with the guidelines. There are no Negative Tags like No-Ntr or 'partial' tags like Partial Harem.

Perhaps it will be boring for me.
I've seen games like this many times before and they very rarely manage to surprise me in any way. Thanks for your efforts, but I'm not your client. Good luck with your development.

 

[zandalari]

Hey. Thanks for the kind words Could you elaborate on what you mean by setting relationships?

Some games, at the start, introduce characters and let the player decide what they are to them. Some freaks pick landlords and landladies, some pick uncles/aunts/cousins or fathers/mothers/sisters. Gets patreon off your back and still gives that wincest mode.

 

[MisterNephilim]

Perhaps you're right. Might change it up a bit. I just thought that for now, he'd not talk to them about it, because just recently they found out that Richard was dealing drugs. MC doesn't need any extra problems on his head.

In my opinion, I can hold that information UNTIL my life is at mortal risk then all bets are off, and I wouldn't protect Richard's "image" to MC's family, fuck that.

MC's life got ruined by his guardian, gets not one, but two antagonists up his ass, one which had all the intention to shoot and kill him, and after all that goes "Hey, good morning" to his foster family? Noooope.

Anyways I don't mean any ill intent towards your work, I just like to point these kinds of things out.

 

[Onyx Decadence]

In my opinion, I can hold that information UNTIL my life is at mortal risk then all bets are off, and I wouldn't protect Richard's "image" to MC's family, fuck that.

MC's life got ruined by his guardian, gets not one, but two antagonists up his ass, one which had all the intention to shoot and kill him, and after all that goes "Hey, good morning" to his foster family? Noooope.

Anyways I don't mean any ill intent towards your work, I just like to point these kinds of things out.

All good. These questions are important. He's silent because he really cares for Riley and Elizabeth. Disclosing all that info so early will do more harm than good. They will be worried that they are in danger from criminals, might look differently at MC, might try to go to the police, even though MC has been threatened not to. further into the game these questions will be adressed, that for sure.

 

[UnoriginalUserName]

Some freaks pick landlords and landladies

Fucking degenerates.

 

[MisterNephilim]

All good. These questions are important. He's silent because he really cares for Riley and Elizabeth. Disclosing all that info so early will do more harm than good. They will be worried that they are in danger from criminals, might look differently at MC, might try to go to the police, even though MC has been threatened not to. further into the game these questions will be adressed, that for sure.

Then express those concerns either in actions or with an inner monologue, because as it stands right now, it seems like MC is uncaring of the things that happen around him.

The only "fire" that I saw with him was with his interactions with the Lawyer, that was very cool, but otherwise he just takes shit.

 

[Chanduchinal]

Wow!

 

[Fantoosh2]

Really Good Start, Best of Luck Dev

 

[chris18911]

great start!

 

[Maobjorn]

Any chance for android port?