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Ntr OR Harem

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Chalker

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Aug 8, 2018
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What if I insert you into the mc place when playing an ntr game? Would that mean you are a cuck?

Because that is what I usually do. I think of the simp mc as an ntr hater from this forum because I know they would be mentally scarred going through it.
You think about us outside of the forum?:oops:

But that sounds as cringe as the people who "insert" their bullies as the guys they kill in gta, a bit obsessive and unhealthy if I do say so myself. Mentally well people do not wish misfortune on others, nor do they find satisfaction in it.
 

Meaning Less

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Sep 13, 2016
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You think about us outside of the forum?:oops:
This forum basically made ntr games more realistic to me.

I used to play ntr games ignoring the fact that simps of that level could even exist, getting so triggered/jealous by losing a "childhood friend" never made sense in my mind.

That was until I noticed that real people gather into this forum to cry about even imaginary girlfriends, that's when it dawned on me that this abnormal level of simpdom actually exists.
 
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E_nigma

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Jan 20, 2019
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What if I insert you into the mc place when playing an ntr game? Would that mean you are a cuck?

Because that is what I usually do. I think of the simp mc as an ntr hater from this forum because I know they would be mentally scarred going through it.
You should self insert as someone who addresses everything said instead of picking and choosing for your mental gymnastics. I already covered that but yet again like you literally always do. You ignore the parts that contradict whatever vacuous point you're trying to make and have your responses live up to your name sake.

It literally doesn't matter how you perceive yourself to be playing it when the game is written as you being the mc, there is no getting around that.
 
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Chalker

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Aug 8, 2018
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This forum basically made ntr games more realistic to me.

I used to play ntr games ignoring the fact that simps of that level could even exist, getting so triggered/jealous by losing a "childhood friend" never made sense in my mind.

That was until I noticed that real people gather into this forum to cry about even imaginary girlfriends, that's when it dawned on me that this abnormal level of simpdom actually exists.
Seems like you're blurring the lines between real relationships and how people want their power fantasies to be orchestrated. Or this is some mental gymnastic Olympics level of cope.

>honey, why do you have so much cuckold porn on your computer? I'm starting to get worried.

>well its actually all about the corruption of the female character and seeing the simp cry hahaha, you see I think this simp is this forum user and he hates it because he said he doesn't like cuck porn! I love watching the simp cry, he's just like the guy who bullies me at work for my cu-ntr game collection!
 

Chalker

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Aug 8, 2018
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>well darling, then don't open the loli folder.

I've been playing adult games for so long that no tag can stop my erection.
Well, being a cunnysseur is better than weird incelly revenge fantasies, atleast in my most humble opinion.
 

Meaning Less

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Sep 13, 2016
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Dude high majority of them were utterly shit! That's just nostalgia clowding your vision.
In contrast to the majority of games that are awesome now? :unsure:

Nah, porn games have always been shit, but people can still fap to shit, that's the magic of porn games.
 

Chalker

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In contrast to the majority of games that are awesome now? :unsure:

Nah, porn games have always been shit, but people can still fap to shit, that's the magic of porn games.
They got slightly better.

Atleast I no longer get ear raped by the worst sampled moan at 200% bass boost and volume coming from the most bimbofied women in existance.
 

Uthuriel

Conversation Conqueror
Jan 26, 2021
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Dude high majority of them were utterly shit! That's just nostalgia clowding your vision.

But I think rockcandy is still kicking.
Of course it's nostalgia... I was like 12 when I played those... :KEK:
 
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Lotta copium there. Cucks enjoy being cucked too, that's why the humiliation or jealousy aspect don't have to be present for it to be cuck stuff it's just for w/e reason more acceptable to call it ntr than cuck stuff.
There's no copium here at all. I'm merely pointing out the issue about the implication that being a cuckold means liking humiliation. You don't think there's anything wrong with that? In fact the humiliation part in the word cuckold is so ingrained in most people's minds that if you take that humiliation part away you might as well remove the word cuckold altogether. So yeah, It just becomes I like watching my partner get fucked by another 'not necessarily a man.' because I enjoy seeing her in a different light and it's a twisted show of affection because she agreed willingly for me.(Netorase).


what you want to see is the mc being cucked, that's called being a cuck.
See that's where you get it wrong. You declared what 'I want to see' as a matter of fact and basically said I wanted to be humiliated because the word 'cuck' has that implication. And Even as you said if we take the humiliation part away from the word 'cuck',
When another fucks your girl you are cucked, because that's what the basic meaning of it is if you take the humiliation part away, That's just the objective part of it, someone else is fucking your girl regardless of what you feel about it. But when you argue 'I want to see' this. Then it's argument to what my subjective experience of what's happening is. You argue about what I enjoy about it.
Then it becomes, If I don't self insert - 'I like watching this mc getting cucked.' which has the implication that you want to see mc suffer. Which is basically netori because that's not you and find delight in it.

If you self insert - 'I like watching myself get cucked.' It don't even make sense, what's there to enjoy about that? Like, Am I supposed to watch myself getting turned on by this? Fap to my facial expressions? or fap looking at me crying about it? But I don't see myself crying about it so I can't self insert myself to that kind of MC.

No, what I like to 'see', 'watch', 'enjoy', is my 'partner'. This is why I don't like most Netorare MC, they're all pathetic crying and shit. And even in Netorase MCs. Devs will make the fmc get addicted to the other guy's cock and be with him in the end like what? Sure that's the more likely thing to happen in real life but man this is porn, can't you make a story where the fmc still remain loyal? I mean, you already made female characters not die to orc cock why not make this?

Edit: In summary, Getting cucked is just a matter of fact. Like killing is just a matter of fact. They're neither positive nor negative. When you say I want to get cucked or I want to kill. What do you mean exactly? No one likes to just get cucked or to just kill. It's a blank statement. You've got to ask the subjective experience because it's quite literally objectively tied to it. Otherwise it's too open for interpretation.
Killing is what's physically happening but what I enjoy is killing who? , I don't just enjoy killing. Murderers, soldiers are murderers, psychopaths are murderers. Yet they're not the same. They're the same if you remove the subjective but reality is a mix of objective and subjective. You don't get one without the other.
 
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E_O_N

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There's no copium here at all. I'm merely pointing out the issue about the implication that being a cuckold means liking humiliation. You don't think there's anything wrong with that? In fact the humiliation part in the word cuckold is so ingrained in most people's minds that if you take that humiliation part away you might as well remove the word cuckold altogether. So yeah, It just becomes I like watching my partner get fucked by another 'not necessarily a man.' because I enjoy seeing her in a different light and it's a twisted show of affection because she agreed willingly for me.(Netorase).



See that's where you get it wrong. You declared what 'I want to see' as a matter of fact and basically said I wanted to be humiliated because the word 'cuck' has that implication. And Even as you said if we take the humiliation part away from the word 'cuck',
When another fucks your girl you are cucked, because that's what the basic meaning of it is if you take the humiliation part away, That's just the objective part of it, someone else is fucking your girl regardless of what you feel about it. But when you argue 'I want to see' this. Then it's argument to what my subjective experience of what's happening is. You argue about what I enjoy about it.
Then it becomes, If I don't self insert - 'I like watching this mc getting cucked.' which has the implication that you want to see mc suffer. Which is basically netori because that's not you and find delight in it.

If you self insert - 'I like watching myself get cucked.' It don't even make sense, what's there to enjoy about that? Like, Am I supposed to watch myself getting turned on by this? Fap to my facial expressions? or fap looking at me crying about it? But I don't see myself crying about it so I can't self insert myself to that kind of MC.

No, what I like to 'see', 'watch', 'enjoy', is my 'partner'. This is why I don't like most Netorare MC, they're all pathetic crying and shit. And even in Netorase MCs. Devs will make the fmc get addicted to the other guy's cock and be with him in the end like what? Sure that's the more likely thing to happen in real life but man this is porn, can't you make a story where the fmc still remain loyal? I mean, you already made female characters not die to orc cock why not make this?

Edit: In summary, Getting cucked is just a matter of fact. Like killing is just a matter of fact. They're neither positive nor negative. When you say I want to get cucked or I want to kill. What do you mean exactly? No one likes to just get cucked or to just kill. It's a blank statement. You've got to ask the subjective experience because it's quite literally objectively tied to it. Otherwise it's too open for interpretation.
Killing is what's physically happening but what I enjoy is killing who? , I don't just enjoy killing. Murderers, soldiers are murderers, psychopaths are murderers. Yet they're not the same. They're the same if you remove the subjective but reality is a mix of objective and subjective. You don't get one without the other.

Here is really meant well advice. I hope you do not mistake me of critizing you, the opposite. Since I’ve been in your shoes too many times myself.

Some people, do not want to understand whatever motivates you personally.
They want some cheap satisfaction of declaring people beneath them. They do not want logic, truth or anything the like. Just staying in their bubble.

The easier you believe your logic is to understand, the more annoyed you ll be when it falls back to the simple fact that they don t want to understand.

Think about it like this. What kind of sad life, without a spine, would you have if there were not some haters?

Enjoy the facepalms while at it. Without those I d have like 5 reactions, so in a weird way they are supporters too.

PS: I don t care what you enjoy either, as long as you are happy and don t hurt others. No need for details.
 

Jaike

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Aug 24, 2020
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I played those. Especially My New Family early on. But, while they don't have creeper or cult leader MC's, they do have Gary Stu MC's. And that, for me, is very irritating. Same for WVM. Grandma's House is like this too, although I do play it for now. I'd also consider all these games to have way too many LI's, which to me is a bad thing.

For whatever it's worth, here is my unofficial list of good harem & "NTR" games I currently follow. I put NTR in "" because, while tagged with NTR, I don't consider a lot of them to actually have NTR. Also, not adding House in Rift and Harem Hotel since I already mentioned them. Also, most of the "NTR" games also have more vanilla/romantic routes.

Harem:
Single Again
The Headmaster
Midlife Crisis
Light of My Life
Complex Society
Lucky Paradox


"NTR":
Demon Boy
Babysitters
Long Story Short

A few more female MC games and a few "corruption/romance" games but I'm not listing those as they don't fall into either category IMO.
Sorcerer, Love of Magic and Tune in to the Show are also games where the MCs aren't creepers. Also not full Gary Stu, though maybe some of these MCs get a bit close.

What if I insert you into the mc place when playing an ntr game? Would that mean you are a cuck?

Because that is what I usually do. I think of the simp mc as an ntr hater from this forum because I know they would be mentally scarred going through it.
If that floats your boat... :unsure:
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Yngling

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They're the same if you remove the subjective but reality is a mix of objective and subjective. You don't get one without the other.
That is an excellent point.

However I think that (while trying not make any moral judgement) you can still say that some of the subjectivity can be termed objective.

For example, some people like strawberry icecream, some like chocolate icecream. That's subjective.

However, if some burglar comes into your house and rapes and kills your wife while you are at work, your feelings, while perhaps not fully objective, are at least predictable. You are likely going to feel angry, sad, vengeful etc.

You may say that is a moral judgement, but I do think there are some things which go beyond morality as a religious or cultural phenomenon.

Not wanting your loved ones get killed is one of those things, and I think that not wanting your wife get fucked by someone else is also one of those things.