Ntr OR Harem

Ntr OR Harem

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Uthuriel

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NTR can be an interesting concept....you start with a girlfriend while other games you have to do a lot of effort to get one. And you lose it shortly after.
But it is supposed to be rare. I mean it is like every RPG you start with high level and you begin to lose stats and equipment because you get weaker and have memory loss....it can lead to interesting challenge but it can never be the standard.
Harem is more standard experience in this field.
What monkey brain does one need to think losing your GF is an interesting concept.

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SeeEmilyPlay

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I don't play any games (or storylines) that involve coercion or degrading, so NTR is out.

Harem games are only very rarely interesting, just throwing buckets full of pussy to an MC is really boring, but if the girls are good looking I might give it a go. The trend however seems to be unnaturally big titted and assed women so the list of ignored games here is getting close to 90% at the moment,

I prefer the small (family) harems with no more than 4-5 people. Or even better a properly written single girl game, especially the ones where you meet a number of people and then choose to pursue one and develop something with her. (note to devs: please always let us ignore LI's we don't like)

What I do not really get is why people put Harem up against NTR all the time. They are not really opposites to me. The only thing I can think of is that generally in Harem you are guaranteed to get the girl and in NTR you need to work for it. But that's more about lazy writing and sticking to tropes too much than it is a proper contrast between the two genres.
 
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cesid

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Eh but harem can be hard too, the only difference is the progression. NTR can be more original but still is about character losing while harem is character winning. It is like replacing the classic young hero with a grampa that is losing his force....can be funny sometimes but it is strange to be a standard story.
 

Harem Trooper

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Far more reasonable to see a loving ntr story, where the antagonist falls for the girl and vice versa. Than a story with xx women that somehow just accept each other and the mc as their god.
I mean you do you... and if I would go with a example of a pornhwa called "Illicit Love" where this exactly happend -> "a loving ntr story, where the antagonist falls for the girl and vice versa", you will see that even the people who was for the NTR content in the first place, they hate it because almost all of the time its very dump and cheap.
Its probably have to do who is the writer or to whom its aimed for. From my experiences Female Writer tend to go for the NTR routes in their stories since they self insert in the wife/Gf etc.
And guys self insert as the Husband/BF.

There are of course always exceptions like people who dont care of the story and just want quick fap and therefor -> The wilder it goes the better for them. Or just people who dont want or cant self insert and look at it from a third perspective so they dont care who cheats on whom.
 

Harem Trooper

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WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU MAKE A GAME WHERE THE ONLY PERSPECTIVE IS THAT OF A LOOSER WHO LOOSES THE LOVE OF HIS LIFE/ONLY GIRL HE EVER KNEW/ALL HUMAN INTERACTION?
For guys is because they feel the arrousal of getting cucked and thats it. Its a real fetish and we all know it here.
We all know how dumb NTR doushinji are and the buyers, at least many of them, buy them exactly for this fetish.

HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF NETORI?
WHY NOT MAKE A GAME WHERE PLAYERS ARE THE BULLS? tHE CHARMING GUY? tHE GOOD FEELS GUY?
This would contradict the NTR game since its not NTR fetish (Netorare/Netorase) but the something completely different.

YOU DELIBEARATELY MAKE A GAME ONLY ABOUT THE PERSPECTVE OF A GUY GETTING CUCKED AND YOU WANT GOOD FEELINGS OUT OF IT?
Its his game so if he feels good about getting his love interest getting stolen and fucked its his thing. I mean I find it repulsive but some people enjoy it. But this counts to other things like Futa, Loli, Furry, Guro etc etc.
 

DawnCry

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Overall if I have to choose I'm on the harem team, but I have seen battle fuck games, capture systems in which heroines are raped and many more games that have some sort of NTR content, personally my optimal game would actually be a game with risks but that you can earn your harem, which would be heresy to some harem and NTR fans lol.
 

Harem Trooper

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Same. Stealing the other dude's girl and knocking her up makes for the best games.
I reply to you just this once because this is extremely untrue. There's nothing of "female empowerment" in NTR games. Women are treated like useless objects there, in even worse ways than a harem game would ever do, but this is not done by the protagonist, but by the antagonist and/or multiple other people/animals/monsters/corpses.
I mean there is a reason why there are so many popular artist and authors who write NTR stories/ponrhwas/doujinshi are woman. The "female empowerment" in such stories is that she explore her inner slut in such stories. And if you dont believe me you can ask these different authors. They are even on reddit erotica threads who will confirm what I say.

Or if you want to get a small glimpse. Go to "Toonily" and type "Gomusin". Dont let the 3.3 rating confuse you. It was a 4.5 when it started ( because people had hopes) but when you will read the comments on the last 2 chapters, you should then know what I want to say here with "female empowerment".

While Im not going out of my way for NTR since im not a crack head, I get sometimes into the crossfire because of all the random copes the author tries to shove in if they are male: Take your poison lol.
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And its not really a meme here but in reality just a excuse of the author for his prefrences which are at least voyeurism or sharing to cuckhold. And as long we get warned about it, or its avoidable or just the focus of the game Im all for it. I personally dont like when it get mixed up since I NEVER saw it once done good.
 
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Harem Trooper

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I gonna disagree with you here.
I support both things and have dedicated patreon pages for "light" and "dark".
But harem games are kind of fucked up, if you spend more than a second thinking about it. While ntr games feel fucked up without thinking about it and are less evil if you take the second to think.
This only applies for each one personal preferences tho. I mean I read many Light/Web Novels and I can say honestly that I can take your 2 sentences and reverse it and we would be wrong and right on the same time lol.
There are many factors which play in what makes Harem/NTR great or bad and I honestly must say is that despite both genres, the harem makes more sense tho its not always means its more realistic. But then again, there is a reason why Harem is more popular or why people tend to escape from realtiy into Harem/NTR stories.

Ntr can be a triangle, with one person suffering. Harem in reality has many, many people suffering.
And that at some point dark evil shit would be necessary to get number 4 into your harem, is obvious.
I am not talking about the games that exist, but the tag that demands it.
No man they dont have to and in all what I saw, played and read non of them did. Except you count the "drama" which only was there for either "drama" or to bonder their relationship. I mean you yourself say that in a specific genre like NTR you can have something "good", like your Douche becomes good and loves the LI and the LI loves him etc.
But this clearly counts to the whole Harem member logic of them bonding and loving the MC without starting each other backstabbing or killing each other.

Obviously you can make games where everyone is "magically ok" with what happens. Again, just don't turn on your thinking capabilities if you have any.
I mean, what you count as "magic" for the Harem to work, so the others will say as "magic" so your Wife loves the douche and he her. Its all about the writer preferences and his writing skills. Its clear to me that you like a good NTR story and thats good and all. But did you read also good Harems where Each of the Harem members trully works as a unit ?
I think from the conversation here, or like you saw it on your own on other threads, NTR is like Harem most of the time cheaply done so you have to dig through much trash.
But if you stick to one thing then the other then its your own personal preferences in the end.

But from another side. Who said it's not ok to have fun with a corrupted storyline? As long as you can separate it from your real life, you'll be fine.
No one said that honestly, at least not from what I saw. It all depends who you ask or WHERE you ask. From my experience if you want to add "corrupted" in a basic vanilla story of MC x FMC alone, you will get hated and cancelled because its not mix well. Same goes for "Harem" and adding "NTR". Look what happend to "Lust Geass" lol.
Its the same when you want to eat something Halal but then the waiter is confused because there is some small meat of it, he is just making a fuss.

Personally I enjoy corruption stories/games but only when its the MC doing it. Hence I love when I have them, aka netori. But thats not what you really mean.

Harem and Ntr are vanilla things.
Now what made you think this is the case lol. I mean you saw how each others fanbase go on other throat lol.
The others you mentioned tag is because they are not the majority but are niche, at least on this forum. Go on specific sites where this specific genre is talked about and then you would think the whole world is upside down.