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Siddington

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Liked the idea of this at first but that slowly changed as I read through page after page of comments. It seems no one can make a game in 2018 without NTR in it. I understand you intend to make it optional but as I've said before multiple times on this forum, it fundamentally alters the tone of the game for anyone who doesn't like NTR. Also I get the feeling we aren't going to get much progress with each daughter in an update if you have to write and render for 3 daughters, plus additional romantic interests for the MC and then NTR scenes also. Sorry to sound so negative, I'm just genuinely fed up with the situation at the minute. Good luck with your game I guess.
 
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Kane Salvatore

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Honestly this is more about 'Life' than any genre tag can give..

1. Would you think about fucking your daughters that you haven't seen in years?
2. Do you expect them to not have a 'college experience'?

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Japanese acronym for , used to define a genre of Eroge (Hentai Game), " ". In short, the main protagonist's loved one(s) are taken or seduced away from him and the heroine might be willing or unwilling. This is to cause an emotion of deep jealousy on the reader.
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With that definition none of the girls will be 'taken' or 'seduced' away from him,
Examples:
1. Hitomi - Lesbian from the start with a girlfriend little interest in cock at the start.
2. Sierra - Bi-Curious Virgin from the start and of course isn't going to think of her dad in the way at the start (we have her losing her virginity planned out already, no cock involved).
3. Chione - Virgin from the start but she's innocent so will have little interest in any of it till later on (already planned out as well, no minor characters involved)

any other side/minor characters shouldn't matter..

but not much we can say at this point to make peace about it
 

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Honestly this is more about 'Life' than any genre tag can give..

1. Would you think about fucking your daughters that you haven't seen in years?
2. Do you expect them to not have a 'college experience'?

--

Japanese acronym for , used to define a genre of Eroge (Hentai Game), " ". In short, the main protagonist's loved one(s) are taken or seduced away from him and the heroine might be willing or unwilling. This is to cause an emotion of deep jealousy on the reader.
--
With that definition none of the girls will be 'taken' or 'seduced' away from him,
Examples:
1. Hitomi - Lesbian from the start with a girlfriend little interest in cock at the start.
2. Sierra - Bi-Curious Virgin from the start and of course isn't going to think of her dad in the way at the start (we have her losing her virginity planned out already, no cock involved).
3. Chione - Virgin from the start but she's innocent so will have little interest in any of it till later on (already planned out as well, no minor characters involved)

any other side/minor characters shouldn't matter..

but not much we can say at this point to make peace about it
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Catwashere

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Honestly this is more about 'Life' than any genre tag can give..

1. Would you think about fucking your daughters that you haven't seen in years?
2. Do you expect them to not have a 'college experience'?

--

Japanese acronym for , used to define a genre of Eroge (Hentai Game), " ". In short, the main protagonist's loved one(s) are taken or seduced away from him and the heroine might be willing or unwilling. This is to cause an emotion of deep jealousy on the reader.
--
With that definition none of the girls will be 'taken' or 'seduced' away from him,
Examples:
1. Hitomi - Lesbian from the start with a girlfriend little interest in cock at the start.
2. Sierra - Bi-Curious Virgin from the start and of course isn't going to think of her dad in the way at the start (we have her losing her virginity planned out already, no cock involved).
3. Chione - Virgin from the start but she's innocent so will have little interest in any of it till later on (already planned out as well, no minor characters involved)

any other side/minor characters shouldn't matter..

but not much we can say at this point to make peace about it
has a point seems like most games have NTR but from what has been said it is gonna be avoidable so we can stop the girls from getting fucked by dudes an on top of that some girls are lesbian an don't want dick and the girls losing virginity sounds like by dildo with girl on girl. I'm just gonna wait and see what happens with the game because i have no issue with girl on girl an like i said sounds like you can avoid all the cuck stuff and seeing other dudes plus two Asians with one being a virgin that you fuck sounds great.
 

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has a point seems like most games have NTR but from what has been said it is gonna be avoidable so we can stop the girls from getting fucked by dudes an on top of that some girls are lesbian an don't want dick and the girls losing virginity sounds like by dildo with girl on girl. I'm just gonna wait and see what happens with the game because i have no issue with girl on girl an like i said sounds like you can avoid all the cuck stuff and seeing other dudes plus two Asians with one being a virgin that you fuck sounds great.
Yea something like that :D
Could go into more details but spoilers :D
 
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Siddington

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Honestly this is more about 'Life' than any genre tag can give..

1. Would you think about fucking your daughters that you haven't seen in years?
2. Do you expect them to not have a 'college experience'?

--

Japanese acronym for , used to define a genre of Eroge (Hentai Game), " ". In short, the main protagonist's loved one(s) are taken or seduced away from him and the heroine might be willing or unwilling. This is to cause an emotion of deep jealousy on the reader.
--
With that definition none of the girls will be 'taken' or 'seduced' away from him,
Examples:
1. Hitomi - Lesbian from the start with a girlfriend little interest in cock at the start.
2. Sierra - Bi-Curious Virgin from the start and of course isn't going to think of her dad in the way at the start (we have her losing her virginity planned out already, no cock involved).
3. Chione - Virgin from the start but she's innocent so will have little interest in any of it till later on (already planned out as well, no minor characters involved)

any other side/minor characters shouldn't matter..

but not much we can say at this point to make peace about it
Look I'm not asking you to defend your vision for the game. I will say again though it seems that people only see NTR as one thing on this forum. It's not only about cuckolding or a partner being taken away. Obvious that is normally NTR's logical conclusion though. The very basis of is this...

"Netorare (寝取られ) is a sexual fetish designed to cause sexual jealousy by way of having the heroine indulge in sexual activity with someone other than the protagonist."

I always pull this quote from VNDB, a site that has over 21000 fully categorized Visual Novels. While the fictional MC mite not immediately see his 3 daughters as romantic options, you can be damn sure us players do otherwise why are we playing these games. Hence when you're are spending time building towards having a sexual relationship with a girl but that girl then fucks another guy, it kind of sucks. I can kind of understand preexisting relationships (Like Hitomi) as it falls into the category of Netori, with you the MC, trying to steal the girl yourself. I understand I'm just pissing into the wind with this so I won't keep it up. It's clearly your vision and I know you've already had multiple people here telling you adding NTR will be great. Guess I'm just here to say that there are some of us, an apparently shrinking minority on this forum, that wish this seemingly weren't appearing in ever single game at the minute. Bar my feelings on this it sounds like it could be a good game so I wish you luck.
 

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Look I'm not asking you to defend your vision for the game. I will say again though it seems that people only see NTR as one thing on this forum. It's not only about cuckolding or a partner being taken away. Obvious that is normally NTR's logical conclusion though. The very basis of is this...

"Netorare (寝取られ) is a sexual fetish designed to cause sexual jealousy by way of having the heroine indulge in sexual activity with someone other than the protagonist."

I always pull this quote from VNDB, a site that has over 21000 fully categorized Visual Novels. While the fictional MC mite not immediately see his 3 daughters as romantic options, you can be damn sure us players do otherwise why are we playing these games. Hence when you're are spending time building towards having a sexual relationship with a girl but that girl then fucks another guy, it kind of sucks. I can kind of understand preexisting relationships (Like Hitomi) as it falls into the category of Netori, with you the MC, trying to steal the girl yourself. I understand I'm just pissing into the wind with this so I won't keep it up. It's clearly your vision and I know you've already had multiple people here telling you adding NTR will be great. Guess I'm just here to say that there are some of us, an apparently shrinking minority on this forum, that wish this seemingly weren't appearing in ever single game at the minute. Bar my feelings on this it sounds like it could be a good game so I wish you luck.
You are wrong even this site more people hate NTR i have seen polls on this site and most of the time it is at least 55 to 70% say no to NTR i only said i'm okay if it is avoidable i have no issue with it being in the game if i can avoid it i understand though by having it that means less time is spent on other scenes that me and you along with others would like but for that 25 or 35% that do like NTR it gives them something also so in saying that i do hope that most of the time making the game goes into stuff that is not NTR maybe they well only make a few NTR scenes. So just give it time before you write this game off like i am because trust me i can stand cucking.
 

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Look I'm not asking you to defend your vision for the game. I will say again though it seems that people only see NTR as one thing on this forum. It's not only about cuckolding or a partner being taken away. Obvious that is normally NTR's logical conclusion though. The very basis of is this...

"Netorare (寝取られ) is a sexual fetish designed to cause sexual jealousy by way of having the heroine indulge in sexual activity with someone other than the protagonist."

I always pull this quote from VNDB, a site that has over 21000 fully categorized Visual Novels. While the fictional MC mite not immediately see his 3 daughters as romantic options, you can be damn sure us players do otherwise why are we playing these games. Hence when you're are spending time building towards having a sexual relationship with a girl but that girl then fucks another guy, it kind of sucks. I can kind of understand preexisting relationships (Like Hitomi) as it falls into the category of Netori, with you the MC, trying to steal the girl yourself. I understand I'm just pissing into the wind with this so I won't keep it up. It's clearly your vision and I know you've already had multiple people here telling you adding NTR will be great. Guess I'm just here to say that there are some of us, an apparently shrinking minority on this forum, that wish this seemingly weren't appearing in ever single game at the minute. Bar my feelings on this it sounds like it could be a good game so I wish you luck.
One thing that should be taken into account is, dad isn't the only playable character. Each of the girls have choices to make. If you don't want them to choose to take on other relationships, you can choose to have them not take on other relationships. To be perfectly honest, your reasoning, "I see them as a romantic option", in the context of the gameplay, makes little sense. Anytime they pursue another romantic option it will be you pursuing that option. So, you would be pursuing a completely different romance in the body of the girls, not losing the girls to jealousy.

Honestly, since the girls are playable characters, unless they write the jealousy into the script, something that, so far as I know, isn't their plan, the only person you should be jealous of is yourself.
 

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One thing that should be taken into account is, dad isn't the only playable character. Each of the girls have choices to make. If you don't want them to choose to take on other relationships, you can choose to have them not take on other relationships.
Yeah that sounds interesting. I'll admit I didn't read all 26 pages of discussion and that considering that info is not in the OP so it's reasonable to conclude people may miss this when joining a thread... Just a thought.

*EDIT* Oh now you add it to the OP...

For me it will depend on how ingrained this content is into the game. Will it be *Guy approaches Hitomi in a bar. Hitomi is given choice to tell him to take a hike. No further input needed to get rid of NTR* or will it be "Persistent NTR antagonists like in Babysitter or seemingly wherever you go, there is someone trying to fuck the romantic interest*. The first example will mean it's nothing more than a temporary annoyance but NTR fans still gets their scenes. The second example however changes the entire mood and feel of the game for me.
 

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Yeah that sounds interesting. I'll admit I didn't read all 26 pages of discussion and that considering that info is not in the OP so it's reasonable to conclude people may miss this when joining a thread... Just a thought.

*EDIT* Oh now you add it to the OP...
yea sorry about that..

For me it will depend on how ingrained this content is into the game. Will it be *Guy approaches Hitomi in a bar. Hitomi is given choice to tell him to take a hike. No further input needed to get rid of NTR* or will it be "Persistent NTR antagonists like in Babysitter or seemingly wherever you go, there is someone trying to fuck the romantic interest*. The first example will mean it's nothing more than a temporary annoyance but NTR fans still gets their scenes. The second example however changes the entire mood and feel of the game for me.
only 'persistent' antagonists are female
 
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I think you could of omitted the part where he's criticizing me for not knowing something that was buried in 26 pages of discussion but hey ho.
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One thing that should be taken into account is, dad isn't the only playable character. Each of the girls have choices to make. If you don't want them to choose to take on other relationships, you can choose to have them not take on other relationships. Anytime they pursue another romantic option it will be you pursuing that option. So, you would be pursuing a completely different romance in the body of the girls, not losing the girls to jealousy.
 

Siddington

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any better?
I appreciate the effort :)

As I've said, I don't want to hate on you guys/girls (I have no idea honestly, sorry) as you are just jumping into something that you're clearly passionate about. I'm just frustrated with how things have gone lately regarding a lot of new games and a few of my favourite games with NTR content seemingly popping up out of nowhere or forced in like a square peg into a round hole. So when I see another promising game that isn't off the blocks yet but seemingly planned to add a fair amount of NTR I got a bit miffed. The info you've added to the OP will hopefully help anyone else who comes here avoid overreacting like I did. I will say though I don't understand the mindset that somehow if it's a woman sleeping with your love interest that is seemingly fine but that's a discussion for another time maybe. I can only promise that I'll give your game a chance when it drops. Can't promise I'll like it but I genuinely hope I do.