Metal Panic

Active Member
Jun 5, 2023
927
1,372
For me this image was/is/will be the eternal SG banner. (and she's not even close to my favorite LI, but the quality and level of detail Ocean achieved here is incredible).
Eh, it's fine, not "incredible" to me but everyone has their own standards and such.

If she isn't one of the main ones (if not "The" main one) I wouldn't want her on the cover art. People would be too focused on her (since she's on the cover) thinking she's mega important but in reality, she's just a side piece for a quickie.

Nami, Bella "Devs fav" or whoever else that is important (summer?) should be on the cover. Hell, all 3/4 whatever with different faces on each of them with a line splitting them in the game cover so they all have a piece.

Lips, I mean, yeah, those are for sucking, mostly for talking.

29 images on Steam, 5 are from the board game? Can it be considered bait?
If you mean the screenshots, it could be, yeah.

I hate those RPGM AVNs that show off the renders of the game (that look amazing) but when you see the actual game/gameplay, it looks like shite/a mess (to me). Most of those don't even show the in-game gameplay scenes, just the renders.

I think he should change them and just add some screenshots of the actual game (like the being handcuffed to the door render would get people like "hmm, wtf is going on there?) maybe the basketball/intro renders and not a game within a game (I hate that whole tabletop stuff) could have made actual story progression scenes with them instead of playing make believe. That's just me.
 

imzahai

Active Member
Apr 19, 2019
873
1,206
Okay I'm curious about this, because all the creators of this kind of games always have these problems with their computers. Jesus Christ man I had a computer for a year without cleaning and somehow the bastard never let me down. Definitely these cases are very curious.
View attachment 3482104
SSDs die faster the MORE you use them, by design.
so if he is a 'heavy' user, it will go that much faster, especially with mid-tier hardware or lower.
 

BobTheDuck

Well-Known Member
Dec 24, 2018
1,047
5,260
They don't do anything to last anymore. :cry:
Nah, it's just the underlying tech. And there's no real warning sign, they work perfectly until they don't. SSD's are also the least sexy thing to upgrade, but one of the most important. I don't churn through data as fast as a graphics renderer, but getting expensive SSDs is crucial; speed increases from faster disk access are wild, and the price is always going down. Chances are the burnt out disk is a pretty old generation, and Ocean can get a bigger one with better speed and more reliability cheaper than the one that died.
 

imzahai

Active Member
Apr 19, 2019
873
1,206
Nah, it's just the underlying tech. And there's no real warning sign, they work perfectly until they don't. SSD's are also the least sexy thing to upgrade, but one of the most important. I don't churn through data as fast as a graphics renderer, but getting expensive SSDs is crucial; speed increases from faster disk access are wild, and the price is always going down. Chances are the burnt out disk is a pretty old generation, and Ocean can get a bigger one with better speed and more reliability cheaper than the one that died.
and should have set up a RAID system for just such crashes, just like any responsible business would... oh wait...
 

BobTheDuck

Well-Known Member
Dec 24, 2018
1,047
5,260
i'm not kicking him either, he said he had backups, not RAID, but regular backups, so it's much better than nothing.
I thought RAID wasn't as much a thing with SSDs? I assume if one went, the other would be on it's last legs cycle wise. I also wouldn't want to raid the fast SSD's purely because I am a cheap ass, and fast large SSD's are far too expensive. I'd say the only thing lost is the time to reimage.

Depends on how he does back ups.
 

imzahai

Active Member
Apr 19, 2019
873
1,206
I thought RAID wasn't as much a thing with SSDs? I assume if one went, the other would be on it's last legs cycle wise. I also wouldn't want to raid the fast SSD's purely because I am a cheap ass, and fast large SSD's are far too expensive. I'd say the only thing lost is the time to reimage.

Depends on how he does back ups.
the likelihood of them both going out at the exact same time is slighty better than winning the lottery odds.
but yes, if an SSD on a raid goes out, you back up what is available, check the status of the other drives, and if you are smart, replace them.
here in Texas that would be about 200.00 per 2tb ssd [for Samsung] you could go cheaper... but you get Cheaper.
though i am one to talk, i have a 4tb in my laptop that i got for 160.00
 
  • Like
Reactions: BobTheDuck

yossa999

Well-Known Member
Dec 5, 2020
1,779
11,584
I'm very afraid that the ignore list is limited to a thousand entries, since I'm almost approaching this limit, and they keep coming and coming...

I just can't figure out how it works. People at Ocean's Discord are screaming, "Ocean, shut up and take our money. Make us a $100 tier because $50 is not enough."

And at the same time, respectable freeloading consumers at the Zone shout: "Milking, this is nothing more but milking."
I don’t even want to delve into what they consider milking: Dev moves to another apartment - it's milking, an overly optimistic estimate published - it's milking, hardware problems - this is still good old milking.

And the most idiotic assumption in this thread: "He just wants supporters to pay for another month." So if he didn't tell people what was going on and just kept quiet until next week, would they all cancel their support? Seriously? Those who continued to support him after he failed to meet his December/January targets as he originally planned? The breadroll-level thinking.

I might see some sense in assumption that since he's made public statements again that he's about to, most likely, if all goes well, he'll probably deliver a release before the end of this month. While, in fact, he screwed up a little with his damn reworks and postworks and still needs time to prepare the Steam release.

The thing is, that in the past, Ocean always announced a release delay, even if it caused a massive butthurt in this thread. And he was never afraid to tell the public the unpopular reasons for it, like wanting to rework the Marla gun scene or the delays and issues related to the music licensing, even though the crowd was screaming, "Fuck the music, just release the fucking update." Nah, I don't see why he needs the lame excuse of "the cat ate my hard drive" just to continue the subscription for the next month. He will get it even if he remains silent.

But what do they mean? Who is being milked? Obviously it's not them, because they're getting the game for free. Patreon subscribers? But why do some randos speak for them? Why don't they stop their support if they think they're being milked?

The mystery is more intriguing than where Summer is gone.
 

imzahai

Active Member
Apr 19, 2019
873
1,206
I'm very afraid that the ignore list is limited to a thousand entries, since I'm almost approaching this limit, and they keep coming and coming...

I just can't figure out how it works. People at Ocean's Discord are screaming, "Ocean, shut up and take our money. Make us a $100 tier because $50 is not enough."

And at the same time, respectable freeloading consumers at the Zone shout: "Milking, this is nothing more but milking."
I don’t even want to delve into what they consider milking: Dev moves to another apartment - it's milking, an overly optimistic estimate published - it's milking, hardware problems - this is still good old milking.

And the most idiotic assumption in this thread: "He just wants supporters to pay for another month." So if he didn't tell people what was going on and just kept quiet until next week, would they all cancel their support? Seriously? Those who continued to support him after he failed to meet his December/January targets as he originally planned? The breadroll-level thinking.

I might see some sense in assumption that since he's made public statements again that he's about to, most likely, if all goes well, he'll probably deliver a release before the end of this month. While, in fact, he screwed up a little with his damn reworks and postworks and still needs time to prepare the Steam release.

The thing is, that in the past, Ocean always announced a release delay, even if it caused a massive butthurt in this thread. And he was never afraid to tell the public the unpopular reasons for it, like wanting to rework the Marla gun scene or the delays and issues related to the music licensing, even though the crowd was screaming, "Fuck the music, just release the fucking update." Nah, I don't see why he needs the lame excuse of "the cat ate my hard drive" just to continue the subscription for the next month. He will get it even if he remains silent.

But what do they mean? Who is being milked? Obviously it's not them, because they're getting the game for free. Patreon subscribers? But why do some randos speak for them? Why don't they stop their support if they think they're being milked?

The mystery is more intriguing than where Summer is gone.
there is a saying,"...a fool and his money..."
there is also a saying, "... Opinions are like ..."
you get the idea.

Ocean makes art, so everyone wants it.
some people have more $ then sense... and
some people, like myself, are cheap ass MFkers...
 
  • Haha
Reactions: syruz
4.40 star(s) 494 Votes