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The guy is really pathetic, bad at fights, drinking and in bed, the funny thing is that if Lena pays attention to him he thinks he's the king of the world.
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I couldn't agree with you more. I have no idea why she decided to do this. Either a cheating Lena, or an Ian and Lena open to experimentation, should have no issue with the Lena/Holly content, because it's going to happen anyway if the so called 'throuple' comes into being, as everybody seems to believe.Damn what's the point of experimenting in an open relationship when you are removing such experimentation content from the game???? Such a bad decision!! And Considering we have already passed the 50% of the game, when is the right time to introduce said experimentation then?!
I play a wide variety of playthroughs. And I'm quite happy for Lena to be totally submissive as well. I just think it would be cool if she could also turn increasingly dominant on at least one path, and turn the tables on Axel and Seymour. Whether that will happen I don't know. I can't see any reason why it shouldn't happen. But as things stand, it's still a very hypothetical scenario. And I'll just have to wait and see, whether anything of the kind occurs.
But even if it doesn't, I do quite enjoy playing female protagonists as submissive sluts, so I'll probably be only slightly disappointed if a dominant scenario doesn't happen
I did have that idea, that Seymour might be her father. But it doesn't seem likely to me. He'd have to be pretty nuts, to be putting his own daughter through this twisted sex game that he's playing with Lena. And could you really see a guy like Seymour with Lena's mom? Her and her Mom, don't appear to be very alike, so what would be the attraction for Seymour?
You say Seymour isn't a bad guy? Are we actually playing the same game? He's the biggest villain in Baluart. This is a guy, who is profitting on other people's misfortune, and is deliberately rigging the local economy, so housing prices and rents are pushed artificially high, wages are reduced and small businesses struggle to compete and are pushed into bankruptcy ( allowing vultures like him to swoop in, and buy them for ridiculously low prices). Plus, he's already admitted that he's fixing the Literary competition, so he can decide who wins. And it's obvious, that he's planning to interfere with the city election for Mayor, so the guy he controls gets elected. And you can bet, he'll then be planning to make things a lot worse, so he can profit even more.
And that's not even including what he's doing with Lena. If she refuses Seymour's offer, we get to see a very different Seymour. He makes it perfectly clear, that he will destroy her, her family and Ian's career as a writer, if she doesn't take up his offer. We find out he did threaten various people who were employing her or might employ her in the future, and that's why job offers suddenly seemed to dry up. He threatens to have her accounts on Social Media suspended, he also threatens to put Ed and Molly out of business, and take their business over, for a fraction of what it's worth. He comes across as a very nasty piece of work, who is prepared to do whatever it takes, however evil, to get what he wants. And this other side to his personality, is what he's hiding from Lena, if she does take up his offer. Everything Emma says about him is true.
Axel and Robert, are just minor villains compared to Seymour. Neither of them are clever enough to hide their true intentions. Plus, both do at least love her to some extent. They might be taking advantage of her, but both of them are motivated by love or lust. With Seymour, it's obvious his motivations are much more sinister. He's actively trying to corrupt Lena, and not just sexually.
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That is what i mean, An open relationship even though they are in love should have the most content to explore, Ian could get involved with other girls after discussing said involvement with his partner i.e. Lena or Lena could get involved with either girls or guys after discussing the same with Ian (We should get to choose between them as someone could not be okay with sharing Lena with other guys), but these involvement can only be sexual since both Ian and Lena love each other that is the whole context of an Open relationship. Idk what EK is thinking removing all experimentation content from the game. It's frustrating since it could become a path which is morally sound and also could have the most content. Soo many scenarios and stories can be created in that(Threesomes,Swinging,Exhibition,Voyeurism,etc). Idk how much content can EK fit for that path in the remainder of the game now tbh. And i don't even believe about the throuple now, there's no point in speculating since EK can change any future content with ease
- Feb 18, 2018
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Her mom is a very plausible picture of what Lena will turn out once she ages out of her good looks and pays for not having a stable career but moving from one mini job and one scumbag to another. Bitter, controlling, emotionally a desaster, patronizing. And settled with a meek, boring guy who is most likely the opposte of all the scumbags she dated in her youth.
How can we help perry with cherry? I think I missed something in early chapter, and i can't find it. Right now ian and perry relationship is very low, I'm going to start a new playthrough with helping perry. Any advice guys??
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I have more time in the evening, so I have to make do with a short answer now. First. Seymour could be her Dad and not knowing it at least in the beginning. If Seymour is her Dad and he already knows it, it could be a nod to GGGB, where there is a Father-Daughter path quite well hidden.
As for Seymour being bad, look at what I said. I mentioned the a..hole scale, where Seymour is definitely not the worst, that are others. He can be a bad guy, but he must not be one! Seymour behaves work-related like many successful people. He is not even the baddest I had the misfortune to see in real life. That is not nice, quite the contrary, but unfortunately life.
You just described an f95zoner.
- Feb 18, 2018
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Probably because your friendship level with him was low, hence Ian didn't bother to help him.
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Closest is probably Stan and then Perry. They prioritize porn and don't want to go out.
Robert goes out, travels on vacation, has a stable job, has a circle of friends, dresses and does a bit of sports.
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Mistakes of the past, perhaps? We don't know how they were when they were young.
Seymour is clearly the Big Bad of the story, but who can be the Big Good?
Emma is likely the most opposed character to Seymour and his plans, but she has neither pull or strategy for anything other than guerilla-esque protests.
Mayor Vermeer has both, but we don't see what is his long-term plans for the election campaign, and if we can influence the elections.
Perry doesn't do much, but if we take a 1940s fedora from Stan and put it on Perry, he will solve every problem and swoon every girl within an hour.
It's highly unlikely, he wouldn't know, since he knows so much about her, he even knows how much money she has in her bank account. He tells her that, during their initial dinner date. It's obvious he's been checking up on her background, and by then, he probably knows exactly who her mother is.
Who exactly do you think is worse than him then? Axel cheated on her and has a foul temper, Robert may have manipulated her a bit, to get her into bed. But this is hardly comparable, with blackmail, attempted blackmail, multiple frauds, election tampering and god knows what else that we don't know about yet. You need to elaborate who and what is worse than that? Because I just don't see it myself.
The obvious way to bring him down, will be someone getting evidence, that he's tampering with the Mayor's election. The most likely person to do that, will be Lena herself, because Seymour has already kind of admitted it to her, when they bumped into the candidate he's supporting. Whether Lena will do that ultimately, depends on how you play her with Seymour. I suppose Ian might be another possibility, if he gets closer to Seymour by winning the Literary competition, or rising higher at the publishing company. Ian's moral compass, is potentially higher than Lena's, and he may feel compelled to reveal any evidence of illegality on the part of Seymour, particularly if he has a high relationship with Emma.
All they'd need to do, was show any evidence to Mayor Vermeer, and no doubt he would do the rest
Would what he is doing count as tampering? I don't remember the details from his meeting with the candidate, but funding/donating to the campaign isn't likely illegal, as well as using his media resources.
I can imagine Seymour using Perry to somehow disparage the Mayor, in addition.
Ian is too detached from Seymour at this moment (unless he goes as protege in the future) to catch blackmail, but Lena can plan a double-agent and get documents/tape the room/etc to get serious ammunition. However, illegal evidence is not viable in court, and Vermeer is by-the-book type.
Also, regarding Seymour drying their sources of income, both have options. Billy strikes me as a cryptobro, who made good money out of Bitcoin and now spending it on what strikes him fancy. While the game clearly doubts his plan (I'm getting Entertainment 720 vibes), he might have enough dough to make a decent portfolio for Lena. Also, there are hooks about the music tournament.
Ian has Victor White, who is starting his internet publication. If it kicks off, it can help with self-publishing his book and give Ian a decent job.
The idea of the old money (Addingworth and Seymour) unable to influence the Internet (OnlyFans, digital publishing, crypto millionaires) kinda works there - for how wealthy and influential they are, they are competing with literally the whole planet.
I was going to ask the same about the tampering, maybe I missed something but I assumed that the opposition candidate went to Seymour to ask for his support. And that support would mean money (donations) and Seymour's media support. That's business as usual, not election tampering.
Regarding using Perry to attack his father, you don't have to see it as a legal thing. It doesn't matter if "evidence" is usable on court, they only have to publicly smear Perry's father image. Doing it so close to the election would be effective, a trial would come way later than the elections and would be irrelevant to the election result.
I can see a plot where Seymour tries to use Ian and/or Lena to get some embarrasing evidence of Perry's "perversions" and "leak" it to his media. Bad economy plus a moral attack on the mayor by proxy though his son, the election would be an easy win. The opposite path would be Lena obtaining evidence on Seymour's sins and his connection to the opposition candidate and using social and independent media to put it out.
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Seymour threatening to shut down Lena's stalkfap account was the worst, illogical, unbelievable threat ever. Sounds like someone who has no idea of the digital age and how it works there. Oldtimers that intrude a world they know nothing about vs digital natives like Billy, the later who would whip the floor with Seymour. Regardless if Seymour is an economic high society veteran and Billy a simpleminded idiot. RL example, some twitter highups delete Trumps tweets. At best Seymours PR can try to cancel Lena, but she can easily perform anonymously or limitless other various online ways to still get cash. Deleting her profile is a threat worth shit.
He's already told Lena, that he's going to fix the Literary competition so Ian wins. He said Ian will win, if she took the deal with him. The only way he could know that, was if he was bribing the judges. He also suggests that he can make it, so Ian has no chance of winning. So if he's prepared to commit fraud, to fix a Literary competition, the implication is clear that he'll probably do the same thing to fix the city election, because as he states clearly to Lena, he expects to do very well from overthrowing Mayor Vemeer's administration.
He also says he doesn't want to get into politics himself, and would rather be the guy behind the scenes pulling the strings. It's clear Peter Prestley is just going to be his Puppet, who will do only what Seymour tells him to. Seymour is all about control. He wants to control Lena, he wants to control Ian, and most important of all, he wants to control Baluart. A man like that, will do anything to get his way, and we already know that, because of the way he acts towards Lena if she turns down his offer to become her patron.
I think you overestimate the so called freedom of the internet. It's very very easy for the rich and powerful to manipulate the internet, and mold people's opinions. Some people are very gullible and if you bombard them with enough propaganda on the internet, they will start to believe it, because it's on the internet and that means it must be true, right?
I'm not saying there are no options for Ian or Lena, because there definitely are. But only if they follow the path of rejecting Seymour. If Lena doesn't reject him, she never finds out about those options, and Ian never considers rejecting him. Ian doesn't really want to believe that Seymour is bad, because that undermines what he believes is his best route to success. So he's trying really hard to disregard what Emma is saying, even though his gut is telling him, there's something a bit fishy about Seymour. Yes, Victor White might help Ian in the future, but if he doesn't write the review for 'The Fall of Delbaith', and let's Holly do it instead, well he never gets the opportunity at all. So they still both have to follow particular paths, to get these options
As for viable evidence, that isn't really relevant, because Baluart isn't a real place, and is set in a fictional country. And therefore it isn't possible to say what is viable, and what isn't. In any case, all they'd have to do was show him that the evidence existed, and then he could arrange for the police to either raid his premises or put him under surveillance.
And even if they subsequently got no legally permissable evidence, the mere fact that the police were investigating him, would likely thwart his machinations for the election.
Fixing your own literary competiton it's pretty easy, specially when you are one of the judges and another one is your employee. Fixing an election is quite more difficult, if not outright impossible. It's not that Seymour wouldn't do it for moral reasons.