Zara Scarlet

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As mentioned before, in the end it does not matter much ias the Seymour path might have a father-daughter branch as a nod to GGGB, if he turns out to be her dad. Which is currently just a theory, but with some probability.

Most of what you attribute to Seymour is path dependent and does not happen on various other routes, e.g. the blackmail. Other things you mention is hearsay, "supposed to be" or stuff Emma tells you ( and at one point she has to admit that she only goes by gutfeeling. What an "evidence"). Especially when it comes to stuff Emma does or tells you, she is a regular drug taking activist, hardly impartial.
It might be cynism speaking, for I have quite some knowledge how local politics function, but Seymour does not even need to resort to election fraud. Compleletly unneeded. There are enough lobbyists and lobby groups he can call on and he will get what he wants. Most parties are "open" to some talk and support.
And when it comes to political activists, there are overwhelmingly just two types. Those who are even more open to "support" than other parties (but are still stinkingly smug) lor the total bone-headed cloudcuckoolanders, who are completely worthless, because they have no idea how reality is and works.
You keep going on about a Seymour father/daughter branch, as if it's going to happen. There's no evidence whatsoever that any such storyline is likely. That's just your theory and nothing more. If there's any kind of father/daughter storyline, it's far more likely to revolve around her existing stepfather. In fact, that's what Eva has suggested in the past.

You say it's path dependant but it isn't. He doesn't blackmail her, but he does blackmail the people who would have employed her otherwise. Danny pretty much admits this, if Lena questions him more thoroughly. And that shows he is willing to blackmail her on both paths, if necessary. If she agrees to his proposal, then he doesn't need to do it. But that doesn't mean that he's somehow a better person on that route than the other.

Emma is one of the nicest characters in this game. If you don't get that, you really are missing the point. She is a really good person, and Seymour is really bad one. And it doesn't matter what route you follow, he's still going to be the game's main villain.
 
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Anyway, actually talking about the game, I don’t think Seymour is telling Lena to get off Stalkfap is a case of him shutting the barn door after the horses bolted, he just doesn’t want to share. If that’s due to him viewing Lena as his plaything or because he actually intends to publish his photos of her and wants the attention on those and not her porn, that remains to be seen.
If they have a good relationship I can see him wanting her to delete stalkfap because he has plans to make her into a high-class posh model for the likes of Agnes' jewelry line and he feels like she is too good to be making porn for the masses. If they don't have a good relationship it's another way to try and control how she makes money in order to keep her dependent on him/he doesn't want to share his muse.
 

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If they don't have a good relationship it's another way to try and control how she makes money in order to keep her dependent on him/he doesn't want to share his muse.
I mean, this part is a given also if Lena is starstruck with Seymour, she just doesn't realize he's doing it behind the scenes.

There's no different Seymours, his motives and tactics are the same in all playthroughs. It's just difference in how Lena sees him.
 
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On a different note, in the latest chapter Lena who is in relationship with Ian can potentially start getting concerned over her flings with Ivy. I wonder if there'll be scenario where Lena tries to put a stop to her and Ivy having sex, on the grounds that she doesn't want to cheat on Ian... only for Ivy to reveal Ian has been hitting on her and soliciting her nudes. :whistle:
 
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On a different note, in the latest chapter Lena who is in relationship with Ian can potentially start getting concerned over her flings with Ivy. I wonder if there'll be scenario where Lena tries to put a stop to her and Ivy having sex, on the grounds that she doesn't want to cheat on Ian... only for Ivy to reveal Ian has been hitting on her and soliciting her nudes. :whistle:
It turned out the real throuple were the people we fucked along the way.
 
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Sometimes I feel like Ivy is in love with Lena
There's definitely that kind of a vibe when Ivy makes her move on Lena when they're at Ivy's place. Like she's had some feelings for Lena ever since their high school "experimenting together" times. Maybe that's a part of why she isn't interested in finding anyone else and prefers to keep things casual.
 

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There's definitely that kind of a vibe when Ivy makes her move on Lena when they're at Ivy's place. Like she's had some feelings for Lena ever since their high school "experimenting together" times. Maybe that's a part of why she isn't interested in finding anyone else and prefers to keep things casual.
Yeah, their dynamic changes as per Lena's monologue.
 

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Sometimes I feel like Ivy is in love with Lena and is using her charms on the partner that Lena likes and catch them pants down and tell Lena that she is what Lena needs in her life, the rests are trash.
Well, considering they have a certain mutual acquaintance, can you blame her?
 
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If they have a good relationship I can see him wanting her to delete stalkfap because he has plans to make her into a high-class posh model for the likes of Agnes' jewelry line and he feels like she is too good to be making porn for the masses. If they don't have a good relationship it's another way to try and control how she makes money in order to keep her dependent on him/he doesn't want to share his muse.
Seymour already has asked her to delete Stalkfap and she did. There's a scene during the last update, where Ian checks her Stalkfap account, and is surprised to see that it no longer exists. If he initially objected to it ( and they're in a relationship) this is a pleasant surprise for him, and he wrongly assumes that she did it just to please him.
 
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Sometimes I feel like Ivy is in love with Lena and is using her charms on the partner that Lena likes and catch them pants down and tell Lena that she is what Lena needs in her life, the rests are trash.
If Ivy loves anyone, it's Lena. I think she mistrusts love. We don't know an awful lot about Ivy's background, but I suspect her relationship with her family was severely lacking and Lena is now to all intents and purposes her family. I do think she has deep feelings for Lena, but she's too scared to voice them. Perhaps she never will.

I think Ivy would be quite willing to share Lena, with whoever else she might be in love with. She just wants to be a big part of Lena's life, even if that just means being her friend. Ivy is very obviously bisexual, but possibly with a preference for women. I think she's deduced that Lena, is very unsure about what she wants out of life or her relationships, and that's why she's advising Lena not to get too involved with people. But deep down, Ivy knows exactly what she wants, she just has to work out a way to achieve it. And perhaps Lena is one of things, that she wants? I'm guessing that at least on one route, she'll eventually get her wish.
 
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If Ivy loves anyone, it's Lena. I think she mistrusts love. We don't know an awful lot about Ivy's background, but I suspect her relationship with her family was severely lacking and Lena is now to all intents and purposes her family. I do think she has deep feelings for Lena, but she's too scared to voice them. Perhaps she never will.

I think Ivy would be quite willing to share Lena, with whoever else she might be in love with. She just wants to be a big part of Lena's life, even if that just means being her friend. Ivy is very obviously bisexual, but possibly with a preference for women. I think she's deduced that Lena, is very unsure about what she wants out of life or her relationships, and that's why she's advising Lena not to get too involved with people. But deep down, Ivy knows exactly what she wants, she just has to work out a way to achieve it. And perhaps Lena is one of things, that she wants? I'm guessing that at least on one route, she'll eventually get her wish.
I get the same vibe when she was talking about finding the right person. I can't remember exact words but I think Lena said finding the right man and Ivy responded with finding the right person. Anyways, I think she was talking about Lena when she said that. Though any MC is fair game for Ivy whether it be Ian or Lena or both together. Add Holly to the trio and any combination works for me. Ian/Holly-Lena/Ivy or Ian/Ivy-Lena/Holly or Ian/Lena-Ivy/Holly or all 4 together. :unsure:
 

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I get the same vibe when she was talking about finding the right person. I can't remember exact words but I think Lena said finding the right man and Ivy responded with finding the right person. Anyways, I think she was talking about Lena when she said that. Though any MC is fair game for Ivy whether it be Ian or Lena or both together. Add Holly to the trio and any combination works for me. Ian/Holly-Lena/Ivy or Ian/Ivy-Lena/Holly or Ian/Lena-Ivy/Holly or all 4 together. :unsure:
I think both Ian and Lena, will eventually have the opportunity to end up with a lot of people, or with nobody. If GGGB proves anything, it's that Eva is willing to entertain and accomodate virtually any possibility. So whatever path you prefer, for these characters, and probably the other main characters, you'll likely end up happy eventually.
 

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I want a Holly harem which includes Ian,Lena,Emma and Ivy. Also Louise as a pet. :giggle:
If Holly continues on her present rapid trajectory on her 'slut' path, she may even end up as the leader of the Ivy/Lena/Holly 'slut' cabal? I think she could totally transform into a completely badass girl. So perhaps anything is possible?

I certainly can't wait for Ian's reaction, if she turns up one day with big breast implants, blonde hair and several tattoos and piercings? Holly is possibly the equivalent of Eva in GGGB, and on several paths Eva's transformation was almost as dramatic as Ashley's. So there is precedent in EK's games, for a secondary character, getting a complete personality makeover.
 
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