Ren'Py Yuri University [v0.60.1] [chekkin games]

[chekkingames]

Thanks everyone for both the positive feedback and constructive criticism, it's really helpful!

The two biggest concerns seem to be with the time limit, and missing scenes due to stats.

For the first, I'm planning another special event on day 60, and then the finale on day 100 (might change to be sooner). At that point, I was probably going to let the player keep going as long as they liked, or go into a new game plus mode.

But all of that is a ways off, and like I mentioned previously, I added the game end at day 50 as a quick fix to prevent players progressing past day 60, and then having to warp them back or something. I also had concerns about the players getting too high stats before new content was added, which might make it boring/too easy to go through.

However, after seeing the feedback, I'm going to remove this temporary limit. Instead, I'll implement what feierflei suggested and allow the player to wind back the clock a week, as much as they like. This will affect the balance of the game, and I'll put a warning to that effect, but I'll leave that up to the player. This will be in the next update, current ETA 6-7 weeks (hopefully a little sooner if things go well).
(For whoever's interested, the 100 day time limit thing actually comes from one of my inspirations for this game, the classic True Love 95. Anyone remember that?)

The second point about missed scenes is slightly tricky, but I think the best solution is to implement a replay feature sooner rather than later. I'm going to move up the development of a basic version of this, with just the main characters. I can't guarantee it'll be in the next update (like I mentioned I ran into technical difficulties), but soon!

Configurable outline, too.

I don't suppose you can share the code for this? Sounds like a great feature!

Cheers everyone!

EDIT: Also thanks to everyone letting me know about bugs! I'm pretty sure I've now fixed everything that's been mentioned, but I'll go over the posts again soon to make sure.

 

[Hordragg]

Thanks everyone for both the positive feedback and constructive criticism, it's really helpful!

The two biggest concerns seem to be with the time limit, and missing scenes due to stats.

For the first, I'm planning another special event on day 60, and then the finale on day 100 (might change to be sooner). At that point, I was probably going to let the player keep going as long as they liked, or go into a new game plus mode.

But all of that is a ways off, and like I mentioned previously, I added the game end at day 50 as a quick fix to prevent players progressing past day 60, and then having to warp them back or something. I also had concerns about the players getting too high stats before new content was added, which might make it boring/too easy to go through.

However, after seeing the feedback, I'm going to remove this temporary limit. Instead, I'll implement what feierflei suggested and allow the player to wind back the clock a week, as much as they like. This will affect the balance of the game, and I'll put a warning to that effect, but I'll leave that up to the player. This will be in the next update, current ETA 6-7 weeks (hopefully a little sooner if things go well).
(For whoever's interested, the 100 day time limit thing actually comes from one of my inspirations for this game, the classic True Love 95. Anyone remember that?)

The second point about missed scenes is slightly tricky, but I think the best solution is to implement a replay feature sooner rather than later. I'm going to move up the development of a basic version of this, with just the main characters. I can't guarantee it'll be in the next update (like I mentioned I ran into technical difficulties), but soon!



I don't suppose you can share the code for this? Sounds like a great feature!

Cheers everyone!

EDIT: Also thanks to everyone letting me know about bugs! I'm pretty sure I've now fixed everything that's been mentioned, but I'll go over the posts again soon to make sure.

Modified the games screen.rpy accordingly: outline color is a slightly translucent gray either zero, one, or three pixels wide. Simply drop it into your game and adjust as you see fit.

 

[demonbra]

Thanks everyone for both the positive feedback and constructive criticism, it's really helpful!

The two biggest concerns seem to be with the time limit, and missing scenes due to stats.

For the first, I'm planning another special event on day 60, and then the finale on day 100 (might change to be sooner). At that point, I was probably going to let the player keep going as long as they liked, or go into a new game plus mode.

But all of that is a ways off, and like I mentioned previously, I added the game end at day 50 as a quick fix to prevent players progressing past day 60, and then having to warp them back or something. I also had concerns about the players getting too high stats before new content was added, which might make it boring/too easy to go through.

However, after seeing the feedback, I'm going to remove this temporary limit. Instead, I'll implement what feierflei suggested and allow the player to wind back the clock a week, as much as they like. This will affect the balance of the game, and I'll put a warning to that effect, but I'll leave that up to the player. This will be in the next update, current ETA 6-7 weeks (hopefully a little sooner if things go well).
(For whoever's interested, the 100 day time limit thing actually comes from one of my inspirations for this game, the classic True Love 95. Anyone remember that?)

The second point about missed scenes is slightly tricky, but I think the best solution is to implement a replay feature sooner rather than later. I'm going to move up the development of a basic version of this, with just the main characters. I can't guarantee it'll be in the next update (like I mentioned I ran into technical difficulties), but soon!



I don't suppose you can share the code for this? Sounds like a great feature!

Cheers everyone!

EDIT: Also thanks to everyone letting me know about bugs! I'm pretty sure I've now fixed everything that's been mentioned, but I'll go over the posts again soon to make sure.

I would like to add a small thing : when the first exam arrived, I had no idea if my stats where high or not...
Having an abstract variable between 0 and 100 didn't helped me. I guessed that, as there were supposed to be 3 exams, on day 30, 60 and 100 (if I remember correctly), I was supposed to have approximately those values in Knowledge at those times...

Maybe adding a small event a week or so before the exams where MC or a teacher tells the player how he is currently doing ?


I don't know if you played those games, but I know two others that are OpenWorlds with Time Limit : Wand & Witches and House Arrest.
Might be my personal taste, but I find that with both games the time limit was a problem and doesn't add much.
I makes me think of Majora"s Mask, the only Zelda that is timed. It is the less played and most disliked of the whole franchise... I like it a lot, but it is really stressful to play. You can't compare it with your game of course, but still...

 

[Laxxter]

No one guy.
Not my cup of tea.

 

[Avaron1974]

No one guy.
Not my cup of tea.

What, oh what, did you exspect from a game with yuri in the title?

Yuri is lesbian.....

 

[Hordragg]

Yuri is lesbian.....

 

[J1215]

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[Kuriichi]

It would be great if with Hannah could be romance relationship!

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Don't you dare take that sweet lolibait's kink from her!

Speaking of spanking >.> It would be super hot for MC to have a top. I nominate Alice or Ashley...or both.

 

[chekkingames]

It would be great if with Hannah could be romance relationship!

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Currently only Hannah's second scene has mandatory spanking (I view it as the protagonist trying it out, seeing if she likes it). For the rest of her 1-to-1 scenes, it's totally optional, and will be in her future scenes too.

 

[chekkingames]

I would like to add a small thing...

Maybe adding a small event a week or so before the exams where MC or a teacher tells the player how he is currently doing ?
...

There actually is an event 1 week before the exam. Whichever character you have the highest affection with and who is taking your class, knocks on your day on day 23, says the exam is in a week and asks how you're feeling about it. The player characters response is an indication of how you're doing - e.g. if you already have the required 30 knowledge, she'll say she feels ready, if you're less than that but above 23 she'll talk about 'keeping up this pace', etc.
However it's true there aren't any specific numbers discussed in this scene, that's only done once you're in the exam and given the quiz option.

Just to check - did you see this scene?

 

[Bingoogus]

If you wanted to institute a timewarp feature to get around the timer being incongruent with sandbox mechanics, fair enough, but it still comes across as a band-aid. Generally sandbox titles just sort of ignore true time and simply autoplay 'timed' events when the prerequisites are met and avert mentioning anything that would reveal a time paradox. The player is expected to sort of detach the concept of true time from the order and timing of events from the 'go at your own pace' sections. It's all a vague sort of 'that happened last week or the week before i think?'. Some games i've seen have triggers for X number of days past, so you can have those timed events but there's nothing wrong with getting ahead, like "day>120, submission>25, love>50". If it's highly important for your game to stick to true time i don't think a sandbox style makes any sense for this game. Whether you have too little or just enough content for the amount of time doesn't really change anything as you can still unknowingly waste time and fuck your play up, not to mention having more content than time, which is beyond infuriating.

As for stat requirements, can i just make it really clear that what people who hate missing scenes or bonus parts to scenes for certain stats really want/need is advertisement. Knowing an upcoming scene needs a stat to be equal to or above 25 before triggering it for an extra part to the scene is infinitely less annoying than just walking into the scene blindly and getting a pop-up or something saying your stat is too low. Harem Hotel has a mod that adds this feature and it is probably the biggest quality of life improvement i've ever come across in a sandbox game. Reading something as simple as ['next event for girl no5' "bonus: sub>20, lust>25, girl no4 love>25"] clearly tells the player, "hey, get stats to this before starting scene for the full suite of content".

I'm not going to bang on about this any further, i hope you can pick a lane as you develop your game, trying to balance your game between these two styles is just going to leave both sides unfulfilled and janky. I'm going to put this one in my 'check back in 6 months' folder as it really looks great and i hope it shakes off its early growing pains.

 

[Avaron1974]

If you wanted to institute a timewarp feature to get around the timer being incongruent with sandbox mechanics, fair enough, but it still comes across as a band-aid. Generally sandbox titles just sort of ignore true time and simply autoplay 'timed' events when the prerequisites are met and avert mentioning anything that would reveal a time paradox. The player is expected to sort of detach the concept of true time from the order and timing of events from the 'go at your own pace' sections. It's all a vague sort of 'that happened last week or the week before i think?'. Some games i've seen have triggers for X number of days past, so you can have those timed events but there's nothing wrong with getting ahead, like "day>120, submission>25, love>50". If it's highly important for your game to stick to true time i don't think a sandbox style makes any sense for this game. Whether you have too little or just enough content for the amount of time doesn't really change anything as you can still unknowingly waste time and fuck your play up, not to mention having more content than time, which is beyond infuriating.

As for stat requirements, can i just make it really clear that what people who hate missing scenes or bonus parts to scenes for certain stats really want/need is advertisement. Knowing an upcoming scene needs a stat to be equal to or above 25 before triggering it for an extra part to the scene is infinitely less annoying than just walking into the scene blindly and getting a pop-up or something saying your stat is too low. Harem Hotel has a mod that adds this feature and it is probably the biggest quality of life improvement i've ever come across in a sandbox game. Reading something as simple as ['next event for girl no5' "bonus: sub>20, lust>25, girl no4 love>25"] clearly tells the player, "hey, get stats to this before starting scene for the full suite of content".

I'm not going to bang on about this any further, i hope you can pick a lane as you develop your game, trying to balance your game between these two styles is just going to leave both sides unfulfilled and janky. I'm going to put this one in my 'check back in 6 months' folder as it really looks great and i hope it shakes off its early growing pains.

Never play a Persona game, you'd hate them.

Or any RPG for that matter.

Or any actual sandbox game. They all have things you can miss. I don't mean adult game I mean normal indie or AAA. They usually have events that require certain stats or requirementys and can be missed if you do other things before them.

In fact you've highlighted the one thing that does wind me up about people playing adult games, the devs can't make actual games because people like you whine about gameplay.

We can't have fun things anymore, we have to have checklists so things can't be missed. May as well just have devs make full kinetic novels.

 

[Lazardc]

Does anyone have cheat?

 

[winini]

Got an error in latest Ashley event

 

[winini]

Also, if you buy a porn mag and gift it to someone, you can never buy another one because game will tell you that you need to read it first, but you can't read it because you gifted it

 

[Kai956]

I must say i really love that game. Yuri is my main fetish an pure Yuri is godlike, so thank you for that(and yuri harem above all). There are 2 problems I have or cant seem to find.
1: You can allow some girls to watch you or join you when you masturbate but for me only Alice joins me sometimes none of the other girls. Am i just unlucky or ar there just no scenes for the other girls yet?
2: After the exam party Ezri says that a new rule is to masturbate everywhere and fool anround everywhere in the house. I mean you only have one room that could be used for everyone so is like going into a girls room you could see her making out with another girl or how is it intendet to be? Are there any scenes for that yet because for that I can't find anything either.

Thank you and keep up that incredible work

 

[winini]

Found another bug: If you choose "Rose first" here, Hannah still be the first and you will miss Rose's scene entirely

 

[demonbra]

There actually is an event 1 week before the exam. Whichever character you have the highest affection with and who is taking your class, knocks on your day on day 23, says the exam is in a week and asks how you're feeling about it. The player characters response is an indication of how you're doing - e.g. if you already have the required 30 knowledge, she'll say she feels ready, if you're less than that but above 23 she'll talk about 'keeping up this pace', etc.
However it's true there aren't any specific numbers discussed in this scene, that's only done once you're in the exam and given the quiz option.

Just to check - did you see this scene?

I had a save just before, so I watched again. I feel kind of stupid now...
I messed with the variable to see all the possible dialogues. The >30 is very clear, the two others maybe a bit less, but that's legitimate as the dialogues make sense.
When I played I had the average version.
What happened is that I thought there was going to be a new event to see the progression as the girls talked about studying together, but it doesn't happen. It's just chit-chat.
So I take it back. You really did the job.


I had a few thoughts about the time limit.

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[chekkingames]

Also, if you buy a porn mag and gift it to someone, you can never buy another one because game will tell you that you need to read it first, but you can't read it because you gifted it

Thank you for posting bugs found, it's really helpful!
This one will be fixed in the next update, and if it's affected your save, all you'll need to do is go to your bedroom and select 'read book'. Then the player character will make a comment about thinking they had a book but must have lost it, and then it will be fixed!

Found another bug: If you choose "Rose first" here, Hannah still be the first and you will miss Rose's scene entirely

This is also fixed for next update, thanks.
For anyone who hasn't reached Hannah's scene 4 yet, I suggest offering to let her go first to avoid continuity errors.

Got an error in latest Ashley event

This one I need more info on. If you have the full traceback, that'd be great, but all I really need is the last line of the first block of text. If you're able to recreate it and post that, it'd be super helpful.
Failing that, if you remember more details that'd help too. Exactly which scene was it? What was happening? Was it from a choice made?

I must say i really love that game. Yuri is my main fetish an pure Yuri is godlike, so thank you for that(and yuri harem above all). There are 2 problems I have or cant seem to find.
1: You can allow some girls to watch you or join you when you masturbate but for me only Alice joins me sometimes none of the other girls. Am i just unlucky or ar there just no scenes for the other girls yet?
2: After the exam party Ezri says that a new rule is to masturbate everywhere and fool anround everywhere in the house. I mean you only have one room that could be used for everyone so is like going into a girls room you could see her making out with another girl or how is it intendet to be? Are there any scenes for that yet because for that I can't find anything either.

Thank you and keep up that incredible work

Thank you so much for the kind words! I just started out with making the sort of game I wished I could find to play, so I'm glad other people are enjoying it too.

The two things you mentioned aren't yet in the game, unfortunately. I just kept tinkering and adding things, but eventually I just had to get the game out there and see if people liked it! So these parts didn't make the first cut. They will be added gradually over the next few updates.
In the mean time, just imagine the girls are really sneaky at watching you go at it!

I had a save just before, so I watched again. I feel kind of stupid now...
I messed with the variable to see all the possible dialogues. The >30 is very clear, the two others maybe a bit less, but that's legitimate as the dialogues makes sense.
When I played I had the average version.
What happened is that I thought there was going to be a new event to see the progression as the girls talked about studying together, but it doesn't happened. It's just chit-chat.
So I take it back. You really did the job.


I had a few thoughts about the time limit.

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Thank you so much for this, I was honestly touched. I knew when I released it that I'd never please everyone - no game can truly do that. But I take the view that if people are taking the time to come back to the thread and leave feedback, that can only be a good thing. The worst outcome would be total apathy.

For your first point, the studying together talk is to remind the player that the option exists. If you study in the library with someone who does your subject, you get more knowledge points than doing it with someone else.
I might tweak the dialogue of the in-between options in the week-before talk to make it a little clearer to the player.

Thank you again, and thanks to everyone else for playing!

EDIT: On that Ashley error: never mind, apparently I'm just blind and missed that it says the error at the top! Fixed now, thanks.

 

[winini]

I really like those threesome-ish scenes in the game! Are there only two of them as of now, With Ezri and Alice and with Ezri and Scarlett?