Why devs don't use skyrim or Fallout 4 for adult games ?

[Chronoe]

Skyrim and Fallout 4 have a lot of adult mods and mods in general.
You can create amazing looking characters and scenarios using mods.

There's this game Repercussions that uses fallout 4 engine, but it just got abandoned.
I can't find any other game that uses skyrim or fallout engine.

Is there another?

There's a rule that don't allow the use of thoses games or mods to make adult games, that I don't know about?

 

[Baka plays]

Just looked at the preview images for that game. And i can tell you they're far behind even what a noob like myself
could make with DAZ.

 

[Chronoe]

Just looked at the preview images for that game. And i can tell you they're far behind even what a noob like myself
could make with DAZ.

yeah, the quality of the models aren't that great.
But if you know how to mod thoses games you can create amazing models.

If you look here in the

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of nexus you can see what a telented modders can do.

 

[Felicityskye]

For games like Skyrim, Fallout 4, If I'm not mistaken unless the creation of the Mods and models are 100% originally made, you can't monetize it. If you use assets you didn't get permission for or use someone else's mods to help create your own creations without their permission for monetary gain, there could be potential legal issues no one wants to deal with. Most of the time amateur devs are not going to put in all the required effort.

 

[Baka plays]

yeah, the quality of the models aren't that great.
But if you know how to mod thoses games you can create amazing models.

If you look here in the

You must be registered to see the links

of nexus you can see what a telented modders can do.

1. I don't think Bethesda would be cool with someone making profit off their game assets.
2. It's restricrted, meaning that you only have Skyrim assets or fallout assets to choose from.
3. Realtime rendering or near real time rendering with a competent engine produces better results
4. Why waste time modding for sexy models with ancient tech when you can spend the time learning 3D modeling with
DAZ, Blender or Honey Select and produce some real good and more unique looking renders and characters?
5. Light and shadows in Skyrim and Fallout are subpar.

 

[Chronoe]

For games like Skyrim, Fallout 4, If I'm not mistaken unless the creation of the Mods and models are 100% originally made, you can't monetize it. If you use assets you didn't get permission for or use someone else's mods to help create your own creations without their permission, there could be potential legal issues no one wants to deal with. Most of the time amateur devs are not going to put in all the required effort.

Makes sense.
In the end it would be more toublesome asking mod authors for permission to use the mods than making the game it self.

 

[fitgirlbestgirl]

Is there another?

https://f95zone.to/threads/hircines-harlots-kylaras-fate-v1-0b-captain-adult-games.65677/

 

[ColdCats]

yeah, the quality of the models aren't that great.
But if you know how to mod thoses games you can create amazing models.

If you look here in the

You must be registered to see the links

of nexus you can see what a telented modders can do.

I agree. I've seen some really nice looking models from Skyrim mods in the last few years.

 

[radohak]

Apart from the commercial and legal issues, I don't see the "quality" of models being a problem at all. There are ton of crap games made with the mentioned daz, honey and whatever. A good plus on these mods is that you have an already set up big world and you can use its lore. Think there was one or two games here which were based on Skyrim.

 

[Hadley]

Models are fine.

There was some Skyrim Porn on PH before it died. But overall I think you are limited when it comes to non-sex Animations.

 

[maya-the-siren]

https://f95zone.to/threads/chastity-quest-chasing-the-next-release-build-12-novus.47989/

 

[Rohganictus]

1. I don't think Bethesda would be cool with someone making profit off their game assets.
2. It's restricrted, meaning that you only have Skyrim assets or fallout assets to choose from.
3. Realtime rendering or near real time rendering with a competent engine produces better results
4. Why waste time modding for sexy models with ancient tech when you can spend the time learning 3D modeling with
DAZ, Blender or Honey Select and produce some real good and more unique looking renders and characters?
5. Light and shadows in Skyrim and Fallout are subpar.

For games like Skyrim, Fallout 4, If I'm not mistaken unless the creation of the Mods and models are 100% originally made, you can't monetize it. If you use assets you didn't get permission for or use someone else's mods to help create your own creations without their permission for monetary gain, there could be potential legal issues no one wants to deal with. Most of the time amateur devs are not going to put in all the required effort.

I'm sorry but I don't understand this.
Why is it an issue?
Most people that create porn games on here use assets that they are not their own.
Does that mean that every dev that has a Patreon page and monetize his game so gives proofs publicly that he bought the 3D DAZ models and has the permissions and rights to use them to make money?

Is Honey Select, a game that is copyright free? You can monetize and use Honey Select as freely as you want?

What about all the devs that use characters from other games and create "fan" porn art when using ports of those characters from those games? And they still montize and have a Patreon page or other.

What about all the persons that monetize all those ports from other games?

I am confused because I wanted to create a VN using Skyrim because in there I created my own characters with my own textures etc... And it's really a downer for me.
Because it would take me way too much time to learn how does DAZ works and create all the poses and find the scenery and everything. I would have to start from zero... and without having the fun to be able to play it as a game.

EDIT : forgot to mention that the main thing is already learning how to code in Ren'Py first. That's why I say it would take too much time to learn DAZ aswell.

 

[Jofur]

Does that mean that every dev that has a Patreon page and monetize his game so gives proofs publicly that he bought the 3D DAZ models and has the permissions and rights to use them to make money?

Yes. Most DAZ assets are sold/given away with a license that allow you to make money of them, as long as you aren't just reselling the models and stuff itself. Not everyone follows the rules of course and I'm sure there are a fair number of pirated assets out there, but those who do use them are committing a crime and can have their game shut down at any minute, or worse.

Is Honey Select, a game that is copyright free? You can monetize and use Honey Select as freely as you want?

It's not copyright free. As far as I'm aware there exists a a semi-official "verbal contract" between the developer and the public that you are allowed to make games from it. Technically, at any moment they probably could force every game made in Honey Select to shut down. And if you use mods you fall into the same territory as using Skyrim. But I think the community there generally allow and expect that and are okay with it. Unlike Skyrim where most mods are more meant strictly for playing rather than making art.

What about all the devs that use characters from other games and create "fan" porn art when using ports of those characters from those games? And they still montize and have a Patreon page or other.

Mostly that falls into parody and therefore fair use. But it's also a bit of a legal grey area. Only the court room can decide what is fair use and not. Some companies like Nintendo go full berserker to try and go after that stuff. A lot don't give a fuck or value their reputation over going after randoms making porn games and other parodies.

What about all the persons that monetize all those ports from other games?

If they distribute them. it's a crime, unless the creator gave the go ahead. Which I assume most do.

I am confused because I wanted to create a VN using Skyrim because in there I created my own characters with my own textures etc... And it's really a downer for me.

If you crated 100% of the assets yourself, including character models, architecture, clutter, textures, and so on. it's an untested legal area as far as I know. It could go either way, probably in your favor since you are only using their rendering tech and freely distributed tools. If you use someone else art without explicit permission, it's a crime.

Overall you probably don't have to worry too much either way, there is a 99% chance your game won't become popular enough to get on anyone's radar. Granted stealing art from people who don't want you to is an asshole move. But: If in doubt. Don't monetize.

 

[Rohganictus]

Yes. Most DAZ assets are sold/given away with a license that allow you to make money of them, as long as you aren't just reselling the models and stuff itself. Not everyone follows the rules of course and I'm sure there are a fair number of pirated assets out there, but those who do use them are committing a crime and can have their game shut down at any minute, or worse.


It's not copyright free. As far as I'm aware there exists a a semi-official "verbal contract" between the developer and the public that you are allowed to make games from it. Technically, at any moment they probably could force every game made in Honey Select to shut down. And if you use mods you fall into the same territory as using Skyrim. But I think the community there generally allow and expect that and are okay with it. Unlike Skyrim where most mods are more meant strictly for playing rather than making art.


Mostly that falls into parody and therefore fair use. But it's also a bit of a legal grey area. Only the court room can decide what is fair use and not. Some companies like Nintendo go full berserker to try and go after that stuff. A lot don't give a fuck or value their reputation over going after randoms making porn games and other parodies.


If they distribute them. it's a crime, unless the creator gave the go ahead. Which I assume most do.


If you crated 100% of the assets yourself, including character models, architecture, clutter, textures, and so on. it's an untested legal area as far as I know. It could go either way, probably in your favor since you are only using their rendering tech and freely distributed tools. If you use someone else art without explicit permission, it's a crime.

Overall you probably don't have to worry too much either way, there is a 99% chance your game won't become popular enough to get on anyone's radar. Granted stealing art from people who don't want you to is an asshole move. But: If in doubt. Don't monetize.

Thank you for your reply and taking the time to clarify each point bit by bit!

For me, indeed, there is a lot of grey areas.

But as you said, I probably don't have to worry too much as the chances of getting popular enough are really thin (at least for me).
I was just wondering because I notice a lot of Patreons pages from game's dev on here and from Mods sharing ports from assets of others games that are kind of popular and some make enough money to just live well and no need for "another regular job on the side".

Anyway, thank you again for clarifying a bit!