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No, it won't. But then, I guess your the voice of expertise and experience on these matters huh?

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I also don't think it will be abandoned but I must admit it has all the abandonment indications. It got reworked, dev works 2 games at the same time which makes his work time limited, story is too complicated to get lost in it, no ending in sight, too long time passed since the beginning but no clear movement at the story, long development time etc. So it's not looking bright. Though I have a strange trust in dev. I feel like he has everything under control and move within a plan. We'll see what will happen I guess but my view is still on the positive side. :unsure:
 
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I also don't think it will be abandoned but I must admit it has all the abandonment indications. It got reworked, dev works 2 games at the same time which makes his work time limited, story is too complicated to get lost in it, no ending in sight, too long time passed since the beginning but no clear movement at the story, long development time etc. So it's not looking bright. Though I have a strange trust in dev. I feel like he has everything under control and move within a plan. We'll see what will happen I guess but I view is still on the positive side. :unsure:
And I know developers who work full time at their main jobs and make AVNs in their spare time. And their games are far from abandoned, they're actually on Steam. So limited work time isn't a big issue (ofc it's issue for the players cause they have to wait longer) if the developer is serious about making the game complete. :)
 
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And I know developers who work full time at their main jobs and make AVNs in their spare time. And their games are far from abandoned, they're actually on Steam. So limited work time isn't a big issue (ofc it's issue for the players cause they have to wait longer) if the developer is serious about making the game complete. :)
Like I said I trust in Oceanlab and probably you ended the discussion by saying it's related to dev's seriousness. (y)

Has an update this year in spite of 2 games
gets addressed in dev logs
is the game the dev made not inherited


Yep those are all hallmark signs

you are correct
( :FacePalm: )
Could you kindly add update intervals in your facepalm? ;)

Hint:This thread created in 2018 and the other one 2019.:whistle:

Like I said I don't think it will get abandoned but there are some signs that can be interpreted as such, denying them don't change that they are there. :rolleyes:
 

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Like I said I trust in Oceanlab and probably you ended the discussion by saying it's related to dev's seriousness. (y)


Could you kindly add update intervals in your facepalm? ;)

Hint:This thread created in 2018 and the other one 2019.:whistle:

Like I said I don't think it will get abandoned but there are some signs that can be interpreted as such, denying them don't change that they are there. :rolleyes:
My simple take: until it's abandoned, I eagerly await updates. The sky is not falling today, and what happens tomorrow can't ruin today unless I'm over thinking it. There's a symbiosis between support and development, and I'm not talking about money. If no one in the world liked WiaB, Ocean would face an uphill battle. Add everyone continually predicting it'll be abandoned - what do you think that does to a dev's desire to grind away at rendering an update? If I'm not paying devs whose work I enjoy, the least I can do is pay them with good attention.

There was that dev in Turkey who lost all their assets in an earthquake, so even with the best intent, games can fail, because it's life. The world is hard enough without imagining what can fail, it's not being wise, just cynical.
 

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Wonder how katie and helen will react about William's reason for being away from home
I mean, was not Katie the reason that he run away ? at least her blackmailing.

Helen is a good one tho, in the old version Dylan knew of the proximity between William and Leia but I dont think that Helen did. But I dont think she would care too much, the Zanes are a weird buch.
 

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Meanwhile, I'm all about seeing what develops with Katie. OG Katie was better, but this one isn't so bad, either.
yeah but by this time in updates the og had ntr within so i dont know .....i feel like some devs are dreaming too mich or are in some hvy shit ,........being perfeccionist is good when you dont need to share your work to others who are being paying for it......
 

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I mean, was not Katie the reason that he run away ? at least her blackmailing.

Helen is a good one tho, in the old version Dylan knew of the proximity between William and Leia but I dont think that Helen did. But I dont think she would care too much, the Zanes are a weird buch.
I'm also intrigued by the guns thing. Willi mentions:

kat "Dad's in prison."
scene ad398 with dssa
d "They found his weapons stash?"
scene ad399 with dssa
kat "What weapons stash?"
d "...Nevermind."


Given how strict Helen is about guns, and Willi mentioning that what he did to the boys teasing Gina wasn't exactly legal, I'm guessing there's quite a history of pushing boundaries. Which makes the reason Willi left even more confusing. In the old WiaB, Leia was still a virgin until CH 6 from memory, so it'd be pretty hard to imagine someone being blackmailed over a kiss, when Willi's already creampied Monica with no consequences.

I guess again, they're making judgments from the perspective of their age - it's the importance they ascribe to an event, not how objectively significant the event is.
 

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Hello,


It's been a while since the last WiAB Dev Log. Those who follow the news on Discord, etc. know it's been a little rough the past months... A lot of uncertainty.

But we're back to the Bi-weekly Dev Log schedule.

The next 1 to 3 Dev logs will be publicly available, and afterward, they will be behind the lowest tier as usual.

I've mentioned before that WIAB will be available on Steam with the next update, and I will create the Steam page for it as soon as SG S1 is released.

I was a little unsure if I shouldn't still wait one more update after the next to put it on Steam. As I'd like to give people more content and was unsure if there was enough content already.

At first, I preferred the approach of creating two updates, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized that developing two updates with a total of 4000+ still images while WiAB's support is below a minijob salary in Germany isn't feasible.

It would take months to create the second update, and meanwhile, WIAB could already be sustained by the Steam/GOG support.

WiAB needs to get back on its foot. The upcoming update it is.

I know this reads like a monologue. That's because the first version draft was me asking what you guys think about it. (Including a poll.)

I will still include a poll to see what you guys think, but it won't be binding. But still, I'm interested in your thoughts.

WiAB would be in early access. This means that the rest of the Season 1's Chapters would be included in the Steam release for no extra charge.

Let's get to the actual info about the next update.

The upcoming update is the biggest Update WiAB has had yet, I'd estimate around 2500-2800 renders. But we all know my render estimations are always lowballing it.

I finished another scene the other day, and I've signed 8 songs for SG and WiAB. While I won't be able to buy any WiAB specific music for a while, I always try to sign music for both games at the same time.

Until then, I will make use of copyright-free music.

The kind of girl to put milk in first.

WiAB will be licking its wounds for a while, but I believe that after its Steam release, it will be stronger than ever.

I'll see you in two weeks.

-Ocean

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