Views on Netorare

[desmosome]

The clitoris is not a penis. The closest comparison may be the glans.

The penis also conveys bodily waste in addition to being a sex organ. The clitoris only serves one function.

no, the clitoris that you are thinking of is the glans clitoris which is equivalent to the glans penis. The actual clitoris looks like this.

The outer "legs" are the corpus cavernosum. This structure also makes up a portion of the penis shaft.

Male and female genitalia are undifferentiated (the genital ridge) until about week 7 of fetal development. The presence of testosterone which is produced in response signals from the Y chromosome is what leads to male genitalia. Without this signal, all babies produce female genitalia.

Basically what I'm saying is that evolutionary changes don't have some kind of purpose behind it. It basically comes down to "does this give an evolutionary advantage?" and "does this give any disadvantages to survival?" As far as the clitoris goes, it probably doesn't have too much of an evolutionary advantage since most lesser mammals have a baser reproductive drive separate from pleasure. It surely doesn't confer any disadvantages though, so there is no reason to phase it out.

Just some lessons in anatomy and embryology. I don't know why I got into it sorry lol.

 

[Deleted member 609064]

no, the clitoris that you are thinking of is the glans clitoris which is equivalent to the glans penis. The actual clitoris looks like this.

How do you know what I was thinking of?

 

[desmosome]

How do you know what I was thinking of?

because you are thinking of the bean that sticks out when you pull back the hood.

 

[NerVreN]

I love Netorare !
I saw this topic and I couldn't say no to share my opinion. I really love netorare as long as the game or novel use it as a main topic. Let's say that the game clearly is a nukige and one of the major routes is netorare (or the whole game is netorare)
On the other hand, if the game is about pure romance that brings netorare due to a bad decision or evil route I prefer to avoid it. I won't kick the game devs for adding netorare but I'll prefer to stay on the other routes. All in all I think that I stick with many netorare fans, warn me about it or give me clues about what I will deal with and I'll be fine, surprise me with "The love of my life fucking the town" and I'll be sad :'c

 

[desmosome]

I love Netorare !
I saw this topic and I couldn't say no to share my opinion. I really love netorare as long as the game or novel use it as a main topic. Let's say that the game clearly is a nukige and one of the major routes is netorare (or the whole game is netorare)
On the other hand, if the game is about pure romance that brings netorare due to a bad decision or evil route I prefer to avoid it. I won't kick the game devs for adding netorare but I'll prefer to stay on the other routes. All in all I think that I stick with many netorare fans, warn me about it or give me clues about what I will deal with and I'll be fine, surprise with "The love of my life fucking the town" and I'll be sad :'c

pretty much yea. In general, the only good NTR is unavoidable hard NTR plot. The stuff that just splashes NTR is not very satisfying and detracts from the other routes usually. I think you are like me. We go into games in NTR mode, harem mode, rapist mode, etc and it doesn't feel right to switch up our mindset mid game.

 

[Deleted member 609064]

because you are thinking of the bean that sticks out when you pull back the hood.

How do you know that is what I was thinking of?

 

[desmosome]

How do you know that is what I was thinking of?

BECAUSE YOU ARE OK!!1

 

[Deleted member 609064]

BECAUSE YOU ARE OK!!1

If you mean because I was right and you assumed all sorts of things which are not in evidence, then ok.

I get that you wanted to demonstrate your knowledge of biology for all of the Netorare fans.

 

[desmosome]

If you mean because I was right and you assumed all sorts of things which are not in evidence, then ok.

I get that you wanted to demonstrate your knowledge of biology for all of the Netorare fans.

uh sure buddy. I was assuming the entire exchange was tongue in cheek, but go ahead lol

 

[Captain NTR]

"Not a very popular genre"

Maybe not in America, but in the rest of the world more so Japan its like the #1 kink/fetish. The problem I see with NTR in western/American audiences is that the viewer gets too personal to the point of replacing the MC with themselves rather than enjoying the ride.

You wouldnt consider yourself Naruto, Goku, Ichigo, Luffy when you read manga or watch an anime. You root for them and are happy for them or excited to see a power-up or ability but ultimately your along for the ride, people need to learn do disseminate between fiction and reality and stop imposing their own views on others just because they feel attacked or uncomfortable.

 

[Tokita]

Like, if a game was set in this setting and the protag is as one of the simpcucked male noble then it's definitely an ntr game right?

My question is... if the protag is the female character, does it still qualify as an ntr then?

From what I've observed, NTR games that star a female protagonist tend to focus more on her sexual escapades than anything else (NTR itself is a sub-genre of corruption, after all). The 'cuck' is usually portrayed as little more than a background character (which is symbolic of his role in her mind, I suppose).

 

[zombie goast]

"Not a very popular genre"

Maybe not in America, but in the rest of the world more so Japan its like the #1 kink/fetish. The problem I see with NTR in western/American audiences is that the viewer gets too personal to the point of replacing the MC with themselves rather than enjoying the ride.

You wouldnt consider yourself Naruto, Goku, Ichigo, Luffy when you read manga or watch an anime. You root for them and are happy for them or excited to see a power-up or ability but ultimately your along for the ride, people need to learn do disseminate between fiction and reality and stop imposing their own views on others just because they feel attacked or uncomfortable.

I notice that you have some sort of weird idea that all anime/manga is what most people would call "shonenshit," yet you still have appointed yourself as someone who knows exactly what Japanese people want. I'm not going to say too much about that because your observation that NTR is weirdly "popular" is a valid one. But I would just like you to consider that maybe the conceit that the viewer needs to have a designated character that they can relate to and self-insert as is more of a western import than anything truly endemic to the Japanese or any Eastern culture.

 

[Captain NTR]

I would just like you to consider that maybe the conceit that the viewer needs to have a designated character that they can relate to and self-insert as is more of a western import than anything truly endemic to the Japanese or any Eastern culture.

Isnt that what I just said?

"The problem I see with NTR in western/American audiences is that the viewer gets too personal to the point of replacing the MC with themselves rather than enjoying the ride. "

Also you used the words conceit and endemic wrong in this narrative.

 

[zombie goast]

Isnt that what I just said?

"The problem I see with NTR in western/American audiences is that the viewer gets too personal to the point of replacing the MC with themselves rather than enjoying the ride. "

Also you used the words conceit and endemic wrong in this narrative.

The only thing you bring to back that up is the supposed fact is that shonen is the only genre of anime/manga that exists or that is popular in the west. Which is obviously false.

 

[Captain NTR]

The only thing you bring to back that up is the supposed fact is that shonen is the only genre of anime/manga that exists or that is popular in the west. Which is obviously false.

Would it help you if I used superman/batman? lol the point went completely over your head, I was using them as a metaphor for how a person shouldnt insert themselves into the main character role and should instead just enjoy the content.

Doesnt matter who I said, the point was the same, for some reason western and more-so american people like to think the story revolves around them instead of just consuming the media like a normal person would, thats conceited, and proper usage of the word btw.

 

[zombie goast]

Would it help you if I used superman/batman?

No? If you want to bring general cuckoldry into the discussion, then please, by all means, make a separate thread. Otherwise, general comics are off topic and only serve to distract from the fact that you only mention shonen manga protagonists.

 

[fakkuman]

"Not a very popular genre"

Maybe not in America, but in the rest of the world more so Japan its like the #1 kink/fetish. The problem I see with NTR in western/American audiences is that the viewer gets too personal to the point of replacing the MC with themselves rather than enjoying the ride.

You wouldnt consider yourself Naruto, Goku, Ichigo, Luffy when you read manga or watch an anime. You root for them and are happy for them or excited to see a power-up or ability but ultimately your along for the ride, people need to learn do disseminate between fiction and reality and stop imposing their own views on others just because they feel attacked or uncomfortable.

This is one of the biggest changes that I've had since discovering that I have the NTR fetish. As the years have gone by I've developed the ability to turn of my brain while playing VN, and insert myself as the male protag if there is no voice/faceless protag. This has severely dampened my enjoyment of the NTR VN games that I used to love. I still have no problems with NTR/Cuckold media that have actual characters as the protag.

 

[kkholis]

Let me start of by being on-topic first.
I don't mind it either way but you have to present it properly. If the game is supposed to be about swinging, cheating or NTR, leave it be. That's the purpose of the game, right?
If it's a game that is about romance and you got outplayed, then if it was written in poorly the creator deserves the backlash. If it was well written and and the MC fails to succeed then the player deserves the loss. If the love interest cheats anyway regardless of the actions then fuck the dev. Because my action therefore has no consequence and I'm supposed to lose in the interest of the story (which they should have explained)

If you are playing a game, any game, not specifically a porn game and the CPU or other players are blatantly cheating meaning that you lose no matter what you do, you ARE going to get mad and quit.

I am deeply concerned that more men here aren't standing up for women who just want to get fucked right by a confident and bold man willing to treat them like the sluts they want to roleplay! Lord knows their boyfriend/husband is too much of a gentleman to pound them silly while calling them nasty names.

And due to this, the Bull is a tragic hero. Satisfying the woman but betraying the bro-code. Maybe the bro-code isn't compatible with female sexual fulfillment. Perhaps, similar to unionization, it's a way for some men to protect their sexual investment against competition and deny women the sexual adventures that they crave but a patriarchal and puritanical society forces them to deny.

Absolutely SPOT-ON. I've been the outside guy before and NOT ONCE have I EVER thought about being a husband/boyfriend, to any woman. And given the one sided laws that exist, I dont even want them in my house. Yes. I said it. I will rather remain the bull in this situation and have the husband/boyfriend pay for the upkeep (and he's also the one to get fucked in the divorce. He's a dumb-ass all around.)

xcrash - you say that female sexuality is misunderstood by men but yet your explanation is really good.
(I also noticed that you placed some words here and there to make it seem like you were fair and 'equal' because you didn't want to make it seem like you were calling women out. Its a sign of the times when you can't call shit for what it is.)

Netorare is the female power fantasy. Everything is about sex (her sexuality in context), except sex. Sex is about power (over others). She is the prize, and every swinging dick in the vicinity is willing to fight and (possibly literally) kill for a piece of her ass. If a 'bull' succeeds, then it means the 'cuck' is obviously at fault for being inadequate in some way (which is retroactively cited to justify betraying him). If the 'cuck' prevails, then his feelings regarding what could have been means he'll either overcompensate to preempt a future betrayal or immediately end their relationship (thereby officially freeing her sexual agency) if he believes it is beyond salvation. So, the female gets to "embrace her sexuality" yet also stands to benefit regardless of the end result.

It makes me so happy to see these POV coming out because for a long while I always thought I was the only one who thought this way. How does everyone else miss this point? I chalked it up to me being one of the few men who actually believe in self-preservation over sacrificing yourself for shit that nobody is going to respect/ honor.

 

[CboyC95]

I really don't see the appeal of it. I've seen so many games on the site with this trope along with trainer games, and dude-bro fucks every woman he sees, over a romance game, a dating sim, or a homosexual game. They should've renamed the site NTRZone or RapeZone with the amount of games on the site.

 

[aattss]

I like seeing female protagonists get turned into sluts/bimbos/whatever, and I like seeing male protagonists get emasculated/humiliated/dominated/whatever. I just enjoy it because I enjoy porn where the MC is put in submissive or humiliating circumstances. It's a fetish. I don't enjoy scat or certain forms of sadism, but I don't really care if someone else does. NTR is a sort of broad genre, but generally speaking, the humiliation is a feature, not a bug.

Porn genres are just like video game genres. Just because someone plays GTA or *insert violent video game people complained about here* doesn't mean they're violent. Though at the same time, if someone prefers games with less graphic violence, that's probably just a preference and shouldn't be taken as proof that they're too "weak-minded" or "unenlightened".