Views on Netorare

Views on Netorare?

  • Yes, I am a fan of Netorare

  • If there's Netorare, I don't mind

  • I am only a fan of Netorase

  • I have mixed emotions towards Netorare (explain in thread)

  • I dislike Netorare


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rawry776

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I think NTR can be extremely sexy in a fictional setting when coupled with corruption (just not IRL). I love netorare-corruption in RPGS and VNs like sentai-based stuff where the girls turn bad and pop out with new sexy alternate versions of their suits etc... Having a complete alignment change from Chaotic good to Chaotic evil can be fekking sexy. Kerrigan from Star Craft, Bad-girl Sailor Moon, Super girl when she's taken by Darkseid in the DC Universe. When the Bad Guy gets control I feel like the story can take a more lewd and extreme erotic turn in the world of lewd fiction.

People enjoy erotic fiction, or 50 shades of Grey wouldn't exist. Would not recommend doing the things you see in fiction in real life lol... that should be obvious.

When it's the kind of NTR in the context of family home slice-of-life stuff, that is just plain old boring to me. Having some dude steal a girl without some kind of epic super hero betrayal arc or something is nowhere near as entertaining.
 
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I really like what I think of as temporary ntr, where the sig other gets used by someone else then returned. The MC is forced to contend with the person they love no being a huge sloot.
 
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rawry776

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I really like what I think of as temporary ntr, where the sig other gets used by someone else then returned. The MC is forced to contend with the person they love no being a huge sloot.
Yeah or maybe the heroine is hypnotized temporarily or something into loving the bad guy. You all have old cartoons to blame for that. It's a scenario that is easily fetishized. I also find most of those scenarios hilarious.

<---- Zelda mind controlled to marry Gannon.

Now we have actual Hentai productions like "Kyonyuu Princess Saimin".
 
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Yeah or maybe the heroine is hypnotized temporarily or something into loving the bad guy. You all have old cartoons to blame for that. It's a scenario that is easily fetishized. I also find most of those scenarios hilarious.

<---- Zelda mind controlled to marry Gannon.

Now we have actual Hentai productions like "Kyonyuu Princess Saimin".
Or some sort of battle sex mechanic where the mroe times the girls in your party get "grappled" the higher their coruptiona and willingess to get "caught" by enemies is.
 
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ApatiaMax

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I not sure if netorare is a cuckold translation or it's just about partner cheating. The fact is that cuckold stand still with the partner while she/he cheats. While for what I've seen until now netorare is just about cheating. In any case can input some real strong emotion on the player, if the story is well written and the player establish a strong bound with the partner, the dev already win.
Then MC can have a good end, where he conquer partner loves stopping the cheating or a bad end (you can easily imagine where it goes).
I like bed ends but that's doesn't mean strictly sissyfication, a submissive partner can be a cuckold without beings sissyficates but pushed towards bisexuality and serving both, partner and Bull (for example). I don't know why but I like it ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯
 

Canto Forte

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This is what NTR is used nowadays in western DAZ VNs: trolling the player.
Like someone pointed out already, NTR started as a TROLL MOVE ON SUCCESSFUL
NOVELS BY HENTAI ARTISTS making PORN PARODIES AND TRASHING THEM TO SMITEREENS.

This is the thing: VNs are parodies of PORN, that are, in turn,
parodies of LOVE NOVELS/MOVIES/PLAYS/SERIES,
where they trash the plot/characters/suspense or actors from said successful NOVELS/MOVIES/PLAYS/SERIES

So all the games we have, that try to INSERT TROLL WRITING AND TROLL SCENES
are DiLLUTED TO THE POINT OF HAVING NO TASTE AT ALL from a novel/movie/play/series.

You like NTR - THIS MEANS THAT you like being trolled and USE your time being TROLLED.

I'd probably laugh.
Because NTR is the most potent trolling material I have ever seen
This is the type of NTR I can get behind
Mixed feelings here. I don't like it, but at the same time I like the idea of having an opponent to beat for the love interest.
The point is I like a lot of variety, but mostly avoid the extremes in either direction
 
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Freki.g

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This is what NTR is used nowadays in western DAZ VNs: trolling the player.
Like someone pointed out already, NTR started as a TROLL MOVE ON SUCCESSFUL
NOVELS BY HENTAI ARTISTS making PORN PARODIES AND TRASHING THEM TO SMITEREENS.

This is the thing: VNs are parodies of PORN, that are, in turn,
parodies of LOVE NOVELS/MOVIES/PLAYS/SERIES,
where they trash the plot/characters/suspense or actors from said successful NOVELS/MOVIES/PLAYS/SERIES

So all the games we have, that try to INSERT TROLL WRITING AND TROLL SCENES
are DiLLUTED TO THE POINT OF HAVING NO TASTE AT ALL from a novel/movie/play/series.

You like NTR - THIS MEANS THAT you like being trolled and USE your time being TROLLED.
What you write is meaningless, in this environment people come to have fun by temporarily escaping the routine and possibly recharge their batteries (if you understand this concept) or people like you who have nothing to do other than to take seriously all of useless projects that wander around this forum without stopping.
 

PofB

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I have mixed opinions on it, mostly because my coomer brain will allow me to enjoy a LOT of fetishes I normally wouldn't if the art is something I enjoy. As an example, the artist Bittercream does some bombastically spectacular art, with some of the best thickly-drawn women I've seen. But half the the stuff they do is netorare/ ugly guy stuff. Similar situation with he artist Honeybread, except it's futa/intersex ntr. I just ignore the implications. I like netorase/sharing though.
 
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whizwart

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I like NTR when it's a little off the norm. No the usual Blackmail/mindbreak crap. My fave is a video on here (I cannot recall the name right now) where hubby cheats at a soapland and is photo'd by the neighbor coming out of the place with the escort. He shows wifey, who has been suspicious as hubby has stopped having sex with her. They hook up. Kinda a twist is that the neighbor is actually a good looking nice guy, who talks to her about how he would stand on the balcony to hear her sing while she hung the wash. Sex gets saucier, they fall in love, wifey divorces hubby and is later seen from afar on the street pregnant with neighbor.
No blackmail, no mindbreaking, no "my husband was gone for 5 minutes so I gotta bang this guy". She even feels a bit guilty the whole thing and says to herself she could have forgiven him had he not physically rejected her, so its not just some bitchy move.

Also read a Hentai that the translated title was Wet Hydrangeas. Woman's first love returns when both are married to others and have moved on (he left due to a DUI and bad press). Both still love each other, dude impregnates woman, kid passed off as hubby's in a really great combo of xray scenes. Really made me realize that the whole "some other guy is gonna raise my kid" think kinda gets my motor going.

PS Finally recalled a game example: Grandma's House. You bang an acquaintance before her big, Indian wedding (like, in the temple before) and knock her up. Passes kiddo off as hubby's. She secretly considers YOU her husband and plans for all her kids to be with you......*chef's kiss* thatsa spicy NTR!
 

Wlms

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Holy crap. Read the whole thread. That was one hell of a ride.
A lot of good debate, opinions were exposed, and I actually learnt some things regarding the genre.
Read some very weird or bullshittesque posts, too.

Anyway, personally, NTR isn't a genre I enjoy nor particularly like. But I'm fine with games having it being avaible, and won't cry over it. People are free to enjoy what they want, and I'm no one to judge (I personnaly have pretty fucked up kinks and fetishes, so judging others would be immensely hypocritical). Wich leads to my next point : I particularly despise some of the folks here who basically descend into uncontrollable crowd rage with pitchforks and torches, screaming "AAAARH NTR !!!! GAME IS SHIT!! BURN THE DEV" if the game's dev dared to make the LI have even the tiniest casual social interaction with another male. Or if the game contains another male at all.
Seriously, wtf is wrong with some people. Makes me wondering how some males here consider women (spoiler : they ain't your property), and on the level of insecurity they seem to be dealing with.

I mean, I'm in an open relationship (with sometimes swinger activities) and we're perfectly fine like that, and I don't live with the neverending fear of my GF leaving me over another cock, because I know she just wouldn't. As I wouldn't ditch her for another woman, even a prettier one, because we're both confident and trustfull toward eachother, capable of separating love from sex and also mature enough to understand that no one is the property of someone else.

Anyway, sorry for the rant
 
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ApatiaMax

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Anyway, sorry for the rant
Well that was one of the best rants I've ever read :D(y)

And yes, love is a different story than sex, and honestly I would like to actively participate with my partner in an NTR situation. I mean to serve them both.
And again it's about trust and fun, but what scares me is the respect she might lose towards me.
Luckily I'm still single and so I've only been lucky enough to serve a mistress. It was fun but also was just shot... And that was enough because I think it's an addictive stuff. :sneaky:
 

EvolutionKills

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NTR is a mixed bag, and the tag here is applied so liberally as to be pretty useless.

Swinging and sharing is fun. But it stops being fun when the MC is nothing but a sad-sack pushover and only there to be expressly humiliated. Not my jam. At that point, make it a corruption story and tell it from the perspective of a female MC, now it's way hotter.

Cheating and corruption is fun. Turbo-Sluts are not. Again, if the scenario is nothing but 'MC is a loser, everyone he loves instantly falls to the antagonist's magic dick', I'm just going to walk away disappointed. A game where the MC and his wife have a falling out and both cheat on each other is way hotter in my opinion.

Lazy writing kills a lot of games. But it strikes NTR game a lot more, because a lot of NTR games seem to lean too heavily on the fetish alone and don't bother putting work into anything else.

Short list of game here on F95Zone that have the NTR tag, and use it well (i.e. some combination of swinging, sharing, cheating, corruption, with little to no humiliation, and no sad-sack doormat MC's).
-Our Red String
-Exciting Games
-Where it All Began
-Babysitters
-Babysitter (not a typo, they are 2 different games)
-Seeds of Chaos
-Alwaysfan
-Trouble at Home
-Long Story Short
-The Singer
 
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I am a bull in real life on bdsm communities where I live so I get off more on that rol being the Stag is not for me so i don't care that there is people that like netorare but I would love to have games where I a can have my kink represented games where I am in the delivering end and the husband/ boyfriend/ girlfriend watches not stealing but accorded or if it's stealing the unloved wife tends to be more the kind of thing I like , now back to the point i don't like what it it's a glorified rape that bring some of the most wrong things about Japanese culture at least for me it's not arousing in any way shape or from I get aroused from humillating others and see them enjoy it yes but I don't like rape in any shape or form corruption maybe but not rape , also I agree with some people here that's says it can help the story but I would love if it more a conflict between two people for the same person delivered in less hateful ways ( not being against a total bastard we might even end up having a proper love triangle fro the spice) were you are not force only to watch but change the outcome and end up being the one winning that person affection . Sorry for my English
 

DigitalMan

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The Absolute State of Modern NTR: An essay (I didn't really set out to make it one, but I just like to write on and on and ramble, so it ended up as one)

I hate this modern deluge of NTR games because most of them have cheap, weightless, and weak NTR. There are far, far too many "NTR" games with what I like to call "The Wilson Boyfriend" named after the volleyball from the movie "Cast Away". Basically, the Wilson Boyfriend is a boyfriend that doesn't really fill a boyfriend role at all, but is there to make the game "NTR". He's just there, and there's a little plaque reading "Boyfriend" stapled onto his chest, so that the girl who's going around getting fucked by everyone and their horse, dog, cow, and mother technically has a "boyfriend", so it's technically NTR. It's weightless, pitiful "NTR" that doesn't seem like such at all. It's more like it's simply called or declared to be "NTR", without really hitting enough notes to actually be considered NTR, like a big sticker slapped on a TV calling it a toaster; if you look under the surface and put away the notion that the game is NTR, you can actually just imagine that the NTR isn't there, it doesn't modify the story enough or have a big enough presence at all. To make it clear how bad that is, imagine if you had an FPS game where you could just imagine out all the shooting. I don't mean imagine that there's no guns or anything, there's FPS games with like, magic and such, like Heretic, I mean imagine a first-person shooter game where the shooting is so inconsequential that you can just imagine that it's not there.You might think this would make me happy about it, as I can just imagine the NTR that I dislike away, but I hate it way more than I hate proper NTR. That's because this brand of NTR is so weightless and easy to artificially insert that it's way too prevalent! It's low-quality NTR for those that like NTR, and it's NTR staining a game that we would otherwise enjoy for those of us that don't like NTR! It doesn't satisfy anybody! Unless they're an NTR lover with no sense of taste or quality, I guess.

But what is good quality NTR? As someone who isn't an NTR fan, I'm not exactly the best judge on this matter, but let me give my two cents, as I've given a good effort at walking a mile in a NTR fan's shoes. Good NTR is NTR that has weight to it, plain and simple. There's the sense of a relationship actually being there, instead of the sense that the boyfriend barely exists and is just a volleyball in the background. I don't mean that he has to be super involved, I've seen NTR that had weight to it where the boyfriend didn't actually do much at all, but the relationship between him and the girl should be enough of a thing to the point that it feels like NTR. The bulk of this modern NTR wave is just weightless NTR. I can't really say in definite terms what kind of NTR has weight and what kind doesn't, as it's really much more of a feeling than anything else, but if I can remove the NTR and the scene plays out almost exactly the same, then I usually find that NTR weightless.

For example, imagine your typical magical girl corruption type of story; there's a magical girl, she fights bad guys, she comes up against a bad guy with hypnosis powers or whatever, and she slowly gets corrupted. Now take that same situation, and add a boyfriend into the mix, which makes it NTR corruption. There's two ways of handling that scenario, a way that has weight, and a way that doesn't have weight. I think the way to have that scenario with weight is to have it be a consistent thing, and to have the boyfriend act like an actual boyfriend. She actively has to hide all the sex she's having from her boyfriend, she flakes on dates with her boyfriend to have sex, she tries to have sex with him but is massively disappointed, so she sneaks off to have sex with other men, and meanwhile the boyfriend tries to win back her favor time and time again, but she's too distracted by sex with other men for any of it to count. Basically, be a good writer. The weightless way to do this is to have the boyfriend just be there, and for him to not feel like a boyfriend at all. Introduce the boyfriend at the start, and then have no scenes where he's really there and the two characters seem like a real couple. Even if he's constantly observing the NTR, scenes where he's there as the act is happening, it can come across as weightless if he's not actively part of that scene, if he's just a Christmas tree decoration, if he's just a volleyball with a face on it. A lot of the time, weightless NTR is like an ex-boyfriend watching his ex-girlfriend getting railed, there's no sense of a present relationship.

Now, in closing, I want to illustrate a point, I'm not sure how to introduce it, so I'll just spit it out. NTR is short for netorare, which translates to something like "sleep stealing". This phrase usually refers to a woman falling out of love with her man due to cheating on him with another man who was better at sex. The woman gets "stolen" from her partner by a man who was better at sex with her than he was; she gets stolen from her partner by sleeping with another man, hence "sleep stealing" hence netorare, hence NTR. In the case of weightless NTR, it doesn't feel like anything is getting stolen, it just feels like a slutty girl has an imaginary schizophrenic hallucination of a boyfriend.

Summary: I dislike NTR, but more than that I hate the modern deluge of NTR cause most of it is garbage by NTR standards. The market right now is flooded with shitty NTR that's added in as an afterthought, and it sucks. I'm tired of games that follow a slutty girl that has a "boyfriend" that could be edited out of the game entirely with a few dialogue changes; I wish it was just a game about that slutty girl, and I'm sure that NTR fans don't like such slapdash, low-quality NTR, assuming they have a discerning enough taste to even tell.
 
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I don't mind if there's netorare. I don't automatically avoid something just because the NTR tag is there. However, it can't be the main fetish of what I'm watching or playing. It should be a minor event that only occurs occasionally. And it should always be backed up with the MC being able to do something about it instead of just accepting it.

Domination and corruption are my personal kinks & naturally conflicts with NTR. But if a story starts off with NTR, and the MC is able to wrestle control away from his adversary by getting rid of him and actually get the girl in the end, I'm perfectly ok with that.
 

Kamishirov

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I like NTR if I'm the cuckoo.

It also depends on my actual relationship with the girl in the game. If she's practically the only girl in the game, my childhood friend from elementary school and sweetheart then I fucking hate it.

I especially like impregnation but not if I'm not the one doing it.

If she's some tasty slut who I fuck on the side then I'm willing to have another dude shoot his shot. Kind of like that scene in Pulp Fiction except with a schoolgirl instead... you know the scene I'm talking about. "Yeah, fuck her..." :p

Plausible deniability. I no longer have to "take responsibility" if she let someone else in, still, bonus points I guess if he takes the A instead. She'd still be a cheating whore!
 

Sheperdfan43

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I'm mixed on it. Though thinking more on it I guess the more accurate description would be "I mostly like it but just as with a lot of other porn, it often has elements that I really don't care for pop up at an unusually high frequency"

So I like to bunch NTR/Cuckolding under the larger umbrella of "Swinging" since the dynamics and source of attraction is pretty similar. Its just that cuckolding is more of a lopsided thing. And yeah when I'm the cuckquean or the one doing the cuckolding both are fun both in games and in real life.

However like I alluded to earlier there's also a lot of stuff that gets mixed in with NTR that I just don't vibe with at all. Chief among them is a *LOT* of raceplay. The baseline of interracial cuckolding is already filled with a lot of baggage but a lot of people just really want to use cuckolding/NTR porn as their outlet for a lot of really weird racial hangups and I don't vibe with that.

On a lesser note, a lot of NTR scenes both in games and just in regular porn, are so repetitive and formulaic. Like look I can enjoy the sight of a spineless main character getting cucked repeatedly by their bully/rival/antagonist only so long before I want some variety. I wouldn't mind seeing a gentler and dare I say, more romantic version of cuckolding sometime in games. Since I feel that there's a lot you can do with that.
 
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