VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.4.0] [Ceolag]

[HiP1]

I mean I get it still a lie and I know wouldn't make it better for you. I was just saying it just makes better to me personally. The Agency feels close enough to me idk what else would be close if we have to pick some other career. Cause how they have a secret base and all of that. My point was if she said it was something that was not even close to the truth to a small degree It would feel worst for me for some stupid reason idk why makes no sense but it is what it is.

If I had to guess why I feel that way perhaps cause how the MC knew she was going on secret dangerous missions all the time so nothing changed there. If she said she worked a supermarket late shift or something now the MC would have to get used to her being in danger or dying if the MC chooses to get back together with her. At least saying she worked for a agency he is somewhat used to the danger element. Only thing that really changed is the whole Fantasy / scifi element + the MC's family involvement but I'm more focusing on the career portion of the lie.

I don't think MC knew she went on dangerous missions. I think to him they were only short work trips. he expected her to call or text when she arrived at her destination every time. that's not something you would do if you go on life and death missions. MC only knew that she couldn't talk about anything related to her work.

But there are some certain facts we know about Fiona. One of the most important one is, she just met MC and not a life long "friend". If MC recently met Kaija and she was not pretending to be his girlfriend then I would not have any problem with her. So whatever her secrets are cannot be same level as Kaija. If MC trust her with his knowledge she reveals more than Kaija within limited timeframe.

For giving her another chance, you do you I guess but that reminds me another person who gave too many second chances.
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it seems Fiona knows who MC is, though. or at least his family. when she runs into him the first time and again in the park, she thinks to herself that she shouldn't get close to him, but he is surprisingly nice and handsome... maybe she didn't intend on being around him and it was a coincidence, but there is definitely something going on with her past and/or family in relation to MC's family.

Kaija is a write off. Trust once broken is very hard to earn back. My MC won't trust her again. Fiona is cute, no question. I think Fiona is probably a sweetheart who has been burned by her family and I'll grow to love her like I do Elea. We don't know that yet so I'm just holding off getting attached to her until we know more. Same with Medb, I'm rather attracted to her, but I'm holding off her as well until we see who she is. She may be a deceitful dark elf succubus for all I know or there might be some sweet sensual warm heart under all that ice. We shall see.

Fiona seems cute and sweet, but she is not harmless. she literally follows MC all the way to the Elves' meeting and no one could pick up her presence. except maybe for the Elf Queen. that level of skill is deadly. she was wearing some kind of Ranger outfit, or wooden elf clothes, with a hood.

Medb seems like a classic lix of kuudere and tsundere.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

Oh yes Quan- Tittys are important for shure
Edit: e6mill , yes I know and I like her a lot, I was just teasing a bit GOA to not loose practice

All good. Things were quiet so I hoped a post of Elea might stir some chatter. Turns out it did so I'm happy.

 

[Dessolos]

I don't think MC knew she went on dangerous missions. I think to him they were only short work trips. he expected her to call or text when she arrived at her destination every time. that's not something you would do if you go on life and death missions. MC only knew that she couldn't talk about anything related to her work.

Maybe it's cause of tv but idk my first playthrough when I thought of her going off on some missions and the MC knew she worked for some agency. First thing that went into my mind was that he had to know he could be something dangerous or spy related haha. But yeah you are right it was vague enough that she could be doing anything not all exactly could be dangerous either.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

I don't think MC knew she went on dangerous missions. I think to him they were only short work trips. he expected her to call or text when she arrived at her destination every time. that's not something you would do if you go on life and death missions. MC only knew that she couldn't talk about anything related to her work.



it seems Fiona knows who MC is, though. or at least his family. when she runs into him the first time and again in the park, she thinks to herself that she shouldn't get close to him, but he is surprisingly nice and handsome... maybe she didn't intend on being around him and it was a coincidence, but there is definitely something going on with her past and/or family in relation to MC's family.



Fiona seems cute and sweet, but she is not harmless. she literally follows MC all the way to the Elves' meeting and no one could pick up her presence. except maybe for the Elf Queen. that level of skill is deadly. she was wearing some kind of Ranger outfit, or wooden elf clothes, with a hood.

Medb seems like a classic lix of kuudere and tsundere.

Fiona is certainly a mystery and I look forward to unravelling her mystery and the dog that doesn't seem to be a dog. I'm quite intrigued with Fiona, but the next update is all Medb so I am focused on what Medb brings to the story. At this stage I think Elea is the more trustworthy LI. That may change as the story develops. I have a thing for sweethearts and Elea is firmly in the sweetheart camp. Unless Ceolag throws a spanner in the works.

 

[xapican]

Now being a bit serious,(yes I can be) it is really hard for me, to view things from your guy's perspective, (at this point I will, let Kaija out, because, in the same way she rattles Defens emotions toward bad memories, she rattles mine toward good memories, so I can complete understand and comprehend his issue with that character)
It catches my attention, that when a secret is involved (and all LI's have them) you guy's start talking about trustworthiness.
from the storyline we know very, few things about Fiona and Elea, we know more about Fiona than about Elea, by the way,
Fiona, on her path, even tells us (MC) that she has a secret but she feels unconfortable to share it with him at that stage of relationship.
MEDB is the most straight forward character, she is like she is and hides her emotions pretty well. (Looking forward to know her other side by the way)

 

[xapican]

it seems Fiona knows who MC is, though. or at least his family. when she runs into him the first time and again in the park, she thinks to herself that she shouldn't get close to him, but he is surprisingly nice and handsome... maybe she didn't intend on being around him and it was a coincidence, but there is definitely something going on with her past and/or family in relation to MC's family.

It is a possible szenario, I interpreted her thoughts more on the side, that she (as we all suspect is a Thuata de Danan, and they don't mix with humans very well, or not at all.
Anyway my personal guess is that MC and his Sister are only half human an Dad is not Dad more Someone who raised and protected them toghether with Hilda (Mom)

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

Now being a bit serious,(yes I can be) it is really hard for me, to view things from your guy's perspective, (at this point I will, let Kaija out, because, in the same way she rattles Defens emotions toward bad memories, she rattles mine toward good memories, so I can complete understand and comprehend his issue with that character)
It catches my attention, that when a secret is involved (and all LI's have them) you guy's start talking about trustworthiness.
from the storyline we know very, few things about Fiona and Elea, we know more about Fiona than about Elea, by the way,
Fiona, on her path, even tells us (MC) that she has a secret but she feels unconfortable to share it with him at that stage of relationship.
MEDB is the most straight forward character, she is like she is and hides her emotions pretty well. (Looking forward to know her other side by the way)

Elea tells us her secret. For me, Fiona and Medb have secrets, but the MC isn't in a relationship with them. They don't have to tell him their secrets and that's okay. Kaija was actively deceiving him and went beyond her mandate. To me that is malicious and, for me personally, she can't come back from that, not when I'm controlling the MC (except when I am on her love path). The other girls may not be trustworthy, we don't know yet, we have to wait and see. They could end up worse than Kaija. We don't know yet. For now MC and Kaijas relationship is dead in the water.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

It is a possible szenario, I interpreted her thoughts more on the side, that she (as we all suspect is a Thuata de Danan, and they don't mix with humans very well, or not at all.
Anyway my personal guess is that MC and his Sister are only half human an Dad is not Dad more Someone who raised and protected them toghether with Hilda (Mom)

That would explain why they are such shitty parents at least. interesting theory. I like it. We will have to see how things play out.

 

[nitkonikic]

Now being a bit serious,(yes I can be) it is really hard for me, to view things from your guy's perspective, (at this point I will, let Kaija out, because, in the same way she rattles Defens emotions toward bad memories, she rattles mine toward good memories, so I can complete understand and comprehend his issue with that character)
It catches my attention, that when a secret is involved (and all LI's have them) you guy's start talking about trustworthiness.
from the storyline we know very, few things about Fiona and Elea, we know more about Fiona than about Elea, by the way,
Fiona, on her path, even tells us (MC) that she has a secret but she feels unconfortable to share it with him at that stage of relationship.
MEDB is the most straight forward character, she is like she is and hides her emotions pretty well. (Looking forward to know her other side by the way)

I'll tag stuff in spoiler in case some people didn't do some routes or stuff, but no major spoilers:

Fiona:

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Interested in her: Massive yes. She looks like a person in need of love because she's unsure if she deserves it. She does.

Elea:

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Interested in her: Uhm, yes? My #1 girl in this one so far. Love every moment spent with this amazing creature.

Medb:

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Interested in her: Fuck yes. Done MC tons of favors already (or tried to, but we actively keep sabotaging her efforts to get us rid of Templars) and not done yet. Can't wait for chapter 5.

Think there might be one more girl in this VN, but can't for the life of me remember who it is, so probably wrong.
Overall, 3 love interests, 3 different characters all worthy of exploring. Quality over quantity.

 

[Maviarab]

Outright admits she has secrets. Understandable and very honest. She also admits about knowing about Neverwhere, not even half-heartedly, just goes out with it. She also admits her family is far from being nicest bunch and she's done some cruel shit herself in the past. So far, she strikes me as genuinely trustworthy person. Has done absolutely nothing wrong.
Based on her history she might also be a bit secretive because she's afraid of losing a friend/love interest. Done cruel stuff might as well be she's killed tons of innocents or worse. We'll see.

Yet despite that....and us telling her ALL our secrets...how can anything she has to tell us top us telling her everything we did?

That's the point she should have opened up....not kept shtum and then in the next available opportunity, point blank say to us I'm not telling you shit.

We're done then sweetheart, nice knowing you.

 

[xapican]

shtum

The reaction was about the use of "shtum" didn't know that it was used in english also and that it has a similar meaning as in german (stumm; meaning muted, not saying anything about something,) So thank's a lot mate (who say's that being on a porn games forum doesn't improve your language and grammar)

 

[HiP1]

Fiona is certainly a mystery and I look forward to unravelling her mystery and the dog that doesn't seem to be a dog. I'm quite intrigued with Fiona, but the next update is all Medb so I am focused on what Medb brings to the story. At this stage I think Elea is the more trustworthy LI. That may change as the story develops. I have a thing for sweethearts and Elea is firmly in the sweetheart camp. Unless Ceolag throws a spanner in the works.

yeah Elea is the most forthcoming and straightforward. no secret, except for that "hobby" that she is ashamed of.
might change with the dance club date. or in the bed xD
there might also be a huge shift when MC introduces her to neverwhere and the templars. she could suddenly have other priorities than being trustworthy and honest towards MC.

It is a possible szenario, I interpreted her thoughts more on the side, that she (as we all suspect is a Thuata de Danan, and they don't mix with humans very well, or not at all.
Anyway my personal guess is that MC and his Sister are only half human an Dad is not Dad more Someone who raised and protected them toghether with Hilda (Mom)

the Thuata de Danan theory for Fiona is actually very interesting. thanks for that! she is flustered when MC asked how old she is.

instead of being half human, it could just be that MC is favored by some gods and/or supernatural entities. some kind of chosen one for the coming apocalypse.

Elea tells us her secret. For me, Fiona and Medb have secrets, but the MC isn't in a relationship with them. They don't have to tell him their secrets and that's okay. Kaija was actively deceiving him and went beyond her mandate. To me that is malicious and, for me personally, she can't come back from that, not when I'm controlling the MC (except when I am on her love path). The other girls may not be trustworthy, we don't know yet, we have to wait and see. They could end up worse than Kaija. We don't know yet. For now MC and Kaijas relationship is dead in the water.

the issue for the player is that we don't have the history of Kaija's relationship. we only had a quick flashback about them being best friends. we need to see how the actual relationship went. there is tons of references from the other characters about their friendship, but not how they behave as a couple. we only know that towards the end MC is fed up with her constant work trips.

I'll tag stuff in spoiler in case some people didn't do some routes or stuff, but no major spoilers:

Fiona:

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Interested in her: Massive yes. She looks like a person in need of love because she's unsure if she deserves it. She does.

Elea:

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Interested in her: Uhm, yes? My #1 girl in this one so far. Love every moment spent with this amazing creature.

Medb:

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Interested in her: Fuck yes. Done MC tons of favors already (or tried to, but we actively keep sabotaging her efforts to get us rid of Templars) and not done yet. Can't wait for chapter 5.

Think there might be one more girl in this VN, but can't for the life of me remember who it is, so probably wrong.
Overall, 3 love interests, 3 different characters all worthy of exploring. Quality over quantity.

Elea never admits to exploring Neverwhere, dude. Quite the opposite.

Medb still tries to trick and deceive MC. even if it is because she is interested in him and does it playfully, it's still not trustworthy at all.

 

[Malicre]

Medb still tries to trick and deceive MC. even if it is because she is interested in him and does it playfully, it's still not trustworthy at all.

That's going to be their whole relationship in a nutshell because shes tsundere as fuck.

 

[nitkonikic]

Elea never admits to exploring Neverwhere, dude. Quite the opposite.

Medb still tries to trick and deceive MC. even if it is because she is interested in him and does it playfully, it's still not trustworthy at all.

"I love mythology....spent a lot of my free time on research.
...love exploring unknown, unraveling puzzles, and deciphering hidden meanings.
...can't get away from the stories about ancient gods. Or the illuminati and freemasons...
...people usually tell me I'm chasing fairy tales...
My dad and I were actually always of one mind. He always supported me. Except in this case. He absolutely hated it."

On its own, that could just be hobby. Cute but harmless.
In game context, above is literally her about to end up learning about Neverwhere.
So you are correct, my wording was wrong, she never says she's researching Neverwhere.

But while she never names it directly, above is basically "Do you encourage this girl to learn more, effectively putting her in danger, or tell her to drop her hobby?".
I don't see how above can end up anything else but her learning about about Neverwhere.

Medb absolutely tries to trick MC. But guess which choices give affection points with her? Not being an idiot ones.
She offers deals and honors them. Changing deals because you got greedy? Oh, Elves will absolutely scam the shit out of you.
But on surface? Deal is a deal. Don't change it on the fly and you're good.

Way more trustworthy than any Templar shown so far. Yes, that includes mommy dear. Lying bitch...

 

[Malicre]

Medb next update.

 

[rafa30]

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[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

it seems Fiona knows who MC is, though. or at least his family. when she runs into him the first time and again in the park, she thinks to herself that she shouldn't get close to him, but he is surprisingly nice and handsome... maybe she didn't intend on being around him and it was a coincidence, but there is definitely something going on with her past and/or family in relation to MC's family.

I read that as she should not get close to anyone, not specifically MC.

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[xapican]

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

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It's been a fucking while last heard this one and probably gonna hum this whole week, thanks.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

the issue for the player is that we don't have the history of Kaija's relationship. we only had a quick flashback about them being best friends. we need to see how the actual relationship went. there is tons of references from the other characters about their friendship, but not how they behave as a couple. we only know that towards the end MC is fed up with her constant work trips.

We do get some history when MC and Kaija discuss their relationship in the Templar HQ. Depending on what choices you take, determines what Kaija says and its condemning. I found that eye opening. I'm not going to go in to it too much. Kaija has been flogged to death.