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Ren'Py Abandoned Teacher's Pets [v2.06.1] [irredeemable]

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I think your best course of action is to remove your pictures and say your making games and put up a wix or other webpage linking to your patreon. maybe a few adult renders and some code or some crap to throw off patreon itself.

I haven't heard any public buzz about the content on patreon, but I also do not visit sites that carry around pitchforks and torches all that much but something must have prodded them to suddenly care with the speed in which they have.

I mean the part about incest is terribly rushed. Its ok for GoT but not for fictional games? or the part that you can share experiences but only if they are bad? free speech as long as we approve of your speech is very strongly implied. This means an outside force pressed their thumb down for sure.

This also means Patreon is banking on their users not having the money for legal action since their new TOS would have so many holes its not even funny. or they are hoping someone does to tie their hands maybe.
He could also set up the Web page off of Patreon and just refer everyone to the Patreon page for donations only. I will be a little harder to keep track of who gets what, but at least it will stave off any future Blitzkriegs.
 
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bronbron

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I literally don't mention sex at all on my home page. Or teens, students, family, daughter, anything. These are changes I made days ago after getting no feedback whatsoever, so i kept scrubbing and scrubbing. You wouldn't even know it was an adult game if it weren't labeled as adult in Patreon.
Since your page is on review, I can only guess what there. Anyway clearly stating that she is an adult and not blood related should cover you.

He could also set up the Web page off of Patreon and just refer everyone to the Patreon page for donations only. I will be a little harder to keep track of who gets what, but at least it will stave off any future Blitzkriegs.
And how he is going to share awards for different tiers of patrons? Like special images, calendars and so on to motivate bigger donations?
 

Paitryn

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He could also set up the Web page off of Patreon and just refer everyone to the Patreon page for donations only. I will be a little harder to keep track of who gets what, but at least it will stave off any future Blitzkriegs.
exactly my point I may have misworded it. DmD did this as a precaution and I suggest anyone do so because they only care right now as to what THEY see on their site, not what you have listed. Sadly I think something worse is going to happen in the world of porn soon enough, and its going to bank on people not being able to seek legal representation. Left and right content providers are cutting off revenue access to content creators.
 
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And how he is going to share awards for different tiers of patrons? Like special images, calendars and so on to motivate bigger donations?
That is what I was talking about when I said that It was going to be a little harder.

He could associate a confirmation number (after donation) with and email address, but he would have to have the software on his side, not through patreon. I don't think it is going to be easy...but I don't think that this inquisition is going to stop here.

There is an outside influence that started all of this. No company is going to take a 15% knock on revenue's just to prove a point. Unless they are allergic to money.;)
 

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It's not my home page that's the issue now. Now she is apparently going through all my Patreon posts (which I had paywalled due to a previous recommendation, but apparently that isn't enough for this person) looking for any hint of incest. I believe I have it all removed, hopefully she doesn't move on to something else because there are mentions of MC and so forth (again, paywalled) but as of now she has yet to bring that up as an issue at all.

If she does start in with critiquing more subjects from individual posts I'll just delete the whole thing.

edit: (meaning all of the posts, so there's nothing left there for her to challenge)
 
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Aren't most patreon rewards simply links anyway? So what if his patreon simply said 'Give me money because of how awesome I am' and linked to his website, and he automated reward delivery for people with links in their email?
 
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It's not my home page that's the issue now. Now she is apparently going through all my Patreon posts (which I had paywalled due to a previous recommendation, but apparently that isn't enough for this person) looking for any hint of incest. I believe I have it all removed, hopefully she doesn't move on to something else because there are mentions of MC and so forth (again, paywalled) but as on now she has yet to bring that up as an issue at all.

If she does start in with critiquing more subjects from individual posts I'll just delete the whole thing.

edit: (meaning all of the posts, so there's nothing left there for her to challenge)
Good idea. You may want to do that anyway. People aren't going to read the old stuff anyway. Or just back it up and zip it in an archive before yo clear the posts.
 
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bronbron

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If it's just Patreon extravagance, there should be alternatives. Even if there is no alternatives, I can build a site that mimics most of Patreon features for guys like irredeemable. Authentications, different tiers of patrons, different tiers of awards and so on. The only thing this site will lack is customer service staff (if they of any need anyway) and its big name.
This is going to take some time, but in a month or so it should be done. If there are any good frontend developers who is going to help, this probably can be done even faster (because I'm better with the site engines than with the design, but still I can do both if needed).
But if it's Paypal demand or something like that, then there is little we can do. Of course we can try to find less popular payment methods, but that is going to limit the customer base and.. that just won't worth it in the end.
 
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Now she is apparently going through all my Patreon posts (which I had paywalled due to a previous recommendation, but apparently that isn't enough for this person) looking for any hint of incest.
If anything turn out bad, don't be afraid to escalate this to her superiors. She won't dare to disobey them or avange you after their decision.
 

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If anything turn out bad, don't be afraid to escalate this to her superiors. She won't dare to disobey them or avange you after their decision.
I mean, I doubt her superiors are going to side with the creator of a small change teen incest porn game over one of their employees. I have no power here. I just have to do whatever she says and hope it's good enough.
 

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Aren't most patreon rewards simply links anyway? So what if his patreon simply said 'Give me money because of how awesome I am' and linked to his website, and he automated reward delivery for people with links in their email?
I think that is what @Paitryn was getting at. Or something like that. I just don't think he should have to do that.

These are fictional stories. Visual Novels. Are we going back to the book burning days, where we start stifling artistic license. If we read a children's book where 2 ducks fall in love, kiss, then have little chics... is it bestiality? That was a shitty example, but I think you know where I am going with this.:eek:penedeyewink:

Honestly, I don't even think that is the issue. BB and DmD got put up almost right away. Your telling me that Lisa and Olivia look like adults. Or even the Loli-fest that is DmD.

He doesn't make as much money as they do, so he get's the shit end of the stick.:teary:
Just like the song goes:
$$$It's all about the Benjamin's, Baby! $$$

Crap sorry for the wall of text.
 
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Honestly, I don't even think that is the issue. BB and DmD got put up almost right away.
One thing that isn't often discussed is to remember that Patreon receives fees from every pledge, right? So the big ones that are the likes of BB and DmD etc are no brainers to keep really. Patreon doesn't want to harm the income too much afterall.

It's a silly thing overall really, I wish creators started to make their own sites and controlled the distribution and everything themselves, but to do so you'd lose patreons natural userbase and it'd be harder for potential customers to find you (since patreon is simply click-done).

Sorry to see your going through this though Irrdeemable, hopefully back on track soon.

PS; I bet she's having a fun time playing the game... She'll ask you on tips how to sort the toilet out ;)
 

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I mean, I doubt her superiors are going to side with the creator of a small change teen incest porn game over one of their employees. I have no power here. I just have to do whatever she says and hope it's good enough.
One thing is for sure, your going to get more Patreons out of this controversy. We are going to have to get your money up there with BB and DmD so they won't do this to you again.
 

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I'd suggest putting Kaitlyn in a 'regular' outfit. I'm sure she'd look adult then...

Total BS. And it isn't like there aren't 18 year old cheerleaders. But I already said that this entire thing is so arbitrary in the first place.

Irredeemable has the right idea. Appease Patreon to get his page back online, so that he can continue to work with his patrons. Definitely include a link to Deem's twitter though, and maybe put a link to the Irredeemable website on twitter ONCE this whole review business is behind him. Deem does have a website, right?

Patreon should be treated as a payment service going forward, not as THE main face of Teacher's Pets. It should be A component of promoting the game, but not the only one. If patrons get in the habit of checking the twitter regularly, then they'll know to go there if something goes wrong again down the road. You never know when Patreon might get another burr up their butt...
 
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One thing is for sure, your going to get more Patreons out of this controversy. We are going to have to get your money up there with BB and DmD so they won't do this to you again.
I'd love it if that were true, but the fact is i'm bleeding patrons. And normally at this point I would be gaining new patrons, which is impossible of course because my page is suspended. Now if I get reinstated and continue making a good product this will all be just a speed bump, but at the moment it has probably cost me thousands of dollars.
 
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I'd love it if that were true, but the fact is i'm bleeding patrons. And normally at this point I would be gaining new patrons, which is impossible of course because my page is suspended. Now if I get reinstated and continue making a good product this will all be just a speed bump, but at the moment it has probably cost me thousands of dollars.
There needs to be a more permanent solution to this problem, so it doesn't happen again.

Patreon, should just be for donations. That's it. nothing else.

Devs should have their own accounting for who gets what. Similar to a shopping cart on PayPal. Check out with Patreon, then confirmation number, then refers right back to your site to finish transaction. There are countless websites that already do this with Walmart and amazon. Why not Patreon...Just sayin'.
 

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One thing that isn't often discussed is to remember that Patreon receives fees from every pledge, right? So the big ones that are the likes of BB and DmD etc are no brainers to keep really. Patreon doesn't want to harm the income too much afterall.

It's a silly thing overall really, I wish creators started to make their own sites and controlled the distribution and everything themselves, but to do so you'd lose patreons natural userbase and it'd be harder for potential customers to find you (since patreon is simply click-done).

Sorry to see your going through this though Irrdeemable, hopefully back on track soon.

PS; I bet she's having a fun time playing the game... She'll ask you on tips how to sort the toilet out ;)
yeah right she's playing it nothing but cobwebs down there.
 
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