VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [Ch. 5 Beta] [Oceanlab]

[johnmnf692]

Let me help you satisfy your curiosity.

Nia's not a virgin. Confirmed by Nami during the gym scene ( as long as you take her with you). Ocean did rework some of the gym scenes. For example, he completely reworked the scene with Mila and partially reworked the scene with Bella, but at the same time according to his statement gym scene with Nami he did not touched, therefore the above information is likely to remain relevant.

Bella's not a virgin. Confirmed by Ocean via Discord. A screenshot of his post has popped up a couple of times here on the forum, if you're interested, you can look it up. I suppose you have a false impression that because of her past traumas and difficult character she has remained innocent (at least that's the impression I got at first), but in chapter five she makes it clear that she has plenty of female and male friends. She most likely did not have a long-term relationship with anyone and probably lost her virginity during a one-night stand, but that's just my guess.

Nami's a virgin. Confirmed by Nami herself twice during the game (a scene of watching pornography together and a visit to Victoria).

We also know for sure that Vic is a virgin and Mila isn't. I can't say anything about Summer.

I am already aware of all of that. It may well be the case that Bella just fucked some rando to lose her virginity, but in my opinion, that wouldn't be particularly consistent with her character or with Nadia and Ayua's reactions to her simply kissing the MC. I'm aware of the years old discord post about Bella not being a virgin, my hope is simply that that has changed, it certainly wouldn't be the first change in either of Ocean's games. I think that the way Bella is written it makes way more sense for her to be a virgin than not, from both an in-universe and Meta perspective.

 

[lorkdubo]

I know all of this, I even pointed out that Nami said she saw Nia get fucked on stream, in my first post. The point is that with what Nia says at her apartment doesn't align with that perfectly. The way she talks is as if she's never filmed with a guy before.

It will all become clear after Season 1 comes out and we can play the game in 1 sitting, all reworked. The story and actions are a bit disjointed. Ocean changes his mind to much to have a clear view of the story to be honest.

 

[yossa999]

I know all of this, I even pointed out that Nami said she saw Nia get fucked on stream, in my first post. The point is that what Nia says at her apartment doesn't necessarily align with that perfectly. The way she talks is as if she's never filmed with a guy before.

Well, if it was a one-time thing and if it wasn't a wonderful experience, that might perfectly explain why she became even more awkward around guys.

 

[Niuul]

It will all become clear after Season 1 comes out and we can play the game in 1 sitting, all reworked. The story and actions are a bit disjointed. Ocean changes his mind to much to have a clear view of the story to be honest.

Very much looking forward to season 1 being completely finished so we can be done with the reworks. Feel like the story has been progressing at a snails pace since half the time spent on an update was reworks while the other half has been moving the story forward slightly. Hopefully with reworks done Ocean can focus more on story cohesion from update to update.

 

[BobTheDuck]

This game is pretty incredible. Honestly, it should be a crime to make such an abundance of gorgeous lovable characters and stick them all into one game that doesn't seem to have a harem path. This does, however, lead to one of the game's biggest issues, which is simply that I can't actually tell which characters are and aren't full LIs other than the handful of characters from the beginning that have demarcated paths and/or stats in the mod. Like, Robin, Nia, and Zara, are they LIs, or are they just prominent side characters? I can only assume that Sasha and Sonya are since I've seen them marketed pretty heavily, even though they both have very little content.

There's some weird continuity stuff with the classroom change which I don't think quite makes sense and also Nia's backstory. Nami says that she saw Nia fucking some guy on her stream, but Nia acts as though she's never done something like that, saying things like "girls who are lucky enough to have guys to do this with" and that she doesn't bring guys to her place because they only see her as a trophy. It's not necessarily inconsistent, but it does seem incongruent with how Nia is written during the scene at her place, although I suppose she could've just been lying/omitting certain details, but I don't think that would really fit either.

As a personal aside, I really hope that Bella is a virgin, she keeps teasing the MC about it, but with the way she's withdrawn from pretty much everyone other than her close female friends, it wouldn't make any sense for her to have hooked up with some rando, or even to have had a boyfriend.

I'm also holding out hope, perhaps futilely, that the Nami Bi-sexual variable is a gateway to some kind of multi-LI ending.

I'm going to touch on some of your other points that the virgin thing. Personally, people have their history their whole life, and I'm okay with that, I'm okay with a story having characters with different pasts. Too many games have the same characters with different hairstyles. Ocean's actually though carefully about who these people are.

I can almost guarantee Sonya is a virgin (given how her family treat her) if you are only interested in virgin paths.

So the points:

- this game will never have a harem path as the dev hates harem games. THe most there wil be is a throuple, and those will be challenging to achieve and keep because of jealousy. I think it's actually refreshing for a dev to creat lots of full characters, and even give sidecharacters in depth personalities.

- Seeing the number of LI's versus 'side' characters as an issue is a matter of perception. If a person has dialogue, they're important to the story. THe only true sidecharacters are the people milling around in the crowds. Regarding LI's I feel it's great that they're not obvious. It makes you play like every choice counts, and forces you to think about what the ramifications of those choices are. Some LI's paths might only be opened by how you treat other characters ie you can only date Mila if you've refused Vic, I'm guessing the way you treat Robin will play a big part in the way Sasha percieves you, same with Bella and Eva. All the characters interact and know what you've done with the others via gossip, so you have to play differently. Playing with a mod doesn't allow you to know what the stats do. I personally prefer not knowing what stats or switches are triggered, it increases the impact of choices and scenes.

- Season two will likely open all the LI paths to some extent, even if there won't necessarily be equal lewd content. We don't know any of that yet. Ocean is introducing characters as Nika meets them and starts interacting properly with them. Season 2 will have quite a few more events with these strangers that he's only known for a week. The barn/game event, the martial arts studio, the cabin trip, moving in with Mila/working on her Venus account, meeting more of the basketball team, the bar opening, the yoga classes, the Zara competitions - there are a lot of potential events that will have multiple characters for Nika to get to know. I don't know if Ocean will even fit all of these in season 2, along with the main plot threads. The main thing is that Nika currently has not been moving in all these character's social circles, he's just starting to get to know them as the events push him into their orbits.

- The continuity stuff is the last part of the rework that we'll get when Season 1 is released. Replay from the start once it is, as OCean will change all kinds of little things all over the place to fix the gaps that were in the beta, because it is a beta.

- the virgin stuff, as stated above, all kinds of characters for all kinds of players.

I guess the fun thing about a game is making the choices we feel are authentic to us. I'll probabaly replay this from the start with every new season, given how I can't decide who I want to pursue

 

[PaxHadrian17]

The Most interesting thing this is. Buy an Windows USB-Stick. Every fucking Windows User do that that themself. HDD or SSD is always a part ya should atleast 2-3 new drives at home for the possible failure and as Dev this thing is a Have Must.

I always have a really good laugh when Dev's post there problems.

I prefer what I see as a dev's honesty versus some dev's who give out the equivalence of 'the dog ate my homework' for the 5th time in a one-year span.

Real world and real-world problems.

Ocean experienced a hiccup... not a devastating loss from a fire.

I'm thankful that the loss was minor, and I believe that he can quickly recover from it.

Cheers!!

 

[Den1mo]

"I am stil-" what? Unconfident? Or weird? Or lonely? Or a virgin (given the convo context)?

single

she has money and is self-confident but she doesn't have the courage to establish a contact that could lead to a relationship. maybe it's not even about her courage but about a bad attitude which we could see in the class room when she started strangling herself and thought that something sexual was what could interest Nika. which in principle might not be wrong since as a cam girl she probably encounters such an attitude towards her quite often

 

[RNasc4444]

I know all of this, I even pointed out that Nami said she saw Nia get fucked on stream, in my first post

Can anyone confirm this? Nia and Zara are my 2 least favorite characters so I usually avoid their content and thus may have missed it but having played the game multiple times I always thought her cam stuff only involved nudity and masturbation. Like for example I remember her mentioning she often plays games (like the one Nami plays) during her stream sessions.

 

[AlexFXR]

He's sure to launch it first on Steam, if he launches it first on Patreon, the guys will leak it in 15 minutes and they won't buy it on Steam

What you are saying is absolutely illogical. Those people who buy games on Steam do not use pirated sites.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Can anyone confirm this? Nia and Zara are my 2 least favorite characters so I usually avoid their content and thus may have missed it but having played the game multiple times I always thought her cam stuff only involved nudity and masturbation. Like for example I remember her mentioning she often plays games (like the one Nami plays) during her stream sessions.

n "And.. *whisper* Don't tell anybody.. She's a camgirl."
d "What is that?"
scene m920 with dissolve
n "Oh god..."
n "She sits in front of her cam and makes sex shows."
d "How do you know that?"
scene m919 with dissolve
n "I saw one of her videos once.. And I instantly remembered her."
scene m918 with dissolve
d "You sure you aren't lesbian?"
scene m919 with dissolve
n "She did get fucked by a dude in the video."
scene m921 with dissolve
n "But lately she's only streaming solo.."

There you go

 

[Don Sucio]

Personally, only Nami or Summer (if she is reintroduced as a LI) not being virgins would ruin the game for me. Bella would be super disappointing, and it would lower her on my personal tier list, but it wouldn't kill the game for me. I think Nia is just kind of confusing because not everything is reworked yet, but yeah, it would also be disappointing if she weren't a virgin, although I didn't even expect her to be until I finally got to her place.

For me is difficult to think that the characters are virgins, nowadays people lose their virginity so soon (at least in my country) and thinking about Nami or other character still being a virgin surprise me , but it makes sense too that some girls continue being virgin, like in the real life, there are people that still being virgin. And if we look at people with depression like the Mc it makes sense.
For me it isn´t a problem if the girls are virgins or not, even i prefer that they aren´t virgins, i usually don´t like the shy girl insecure about having sex because she is a virgin, but i´m good with a character with this personality if is well written.

Nami being virgin makes sense, she is obssesed with the Mc so maybe she is waitting for him to desflower her, other characters like Vic makes sense too, her personality doesn´t fits with the type of girl who fucks around with all the dudes. But there are characters that don´t make any sense to be virgins, like Bella, who is a popular girl and a total bitch, impossible that she hasn´t fucked anyone,just for the pleasure or for lose stress, that type of girl usually fuck because they are angry and want to destress themself , and of course other characters like Nia who is a naughty girl or Zara, even Amber, they are grown girls.

 

[Kemal Ataturk]

What you are saying is absolutely illogical. Those people who buy games on Steam do not use pirated sites.

yeah we do

 

[johnmnf692]

For me is difficult to think that the characters are virgins, nowadays people lose their virginity so soon (at least in my country) and thinking about Nami or other character still being a virgin surprise me , but it makes sense too that some girls continue being virgin, like in the real life, there are people that still being virgin. And if we look at people with depression like the Mc it makes sense.
For me it isn´t a problem if the girls are virgins or not, even i prefer that they aren´t virgins, i usually don´t like the shy girl insecure about having sex because she is a virgin, but i´m good with a character with this personality if is well written.

Nami being virgin makes sense, she is obssesed with the Mc so maybe she is waitting for him to desflower her, other characters like Vic makes sense too, her personality doesn´t fits with the type of girl who fucks around with all the dudes. But there are characters that don´t make any sense to be virgins, like Bella, who is a popular girl and a total bitch, impossible that she hasn´t fucked anyone,just for the pleasure or for lose stress, that type of girl usually fuck because they are angry and want to destress themself , and of course other characters like Nia who is a naughty girl or Zara, even Amber, they are grown girls.

Just because a character is a virgin doesn't mean they need to be shy and/or insecure, case in point: Nami. I fundamentally disagree on Bella, and also Zara, but I'm tired of repeating myself.

 

[codex35]

Last chapter Bella wants a quickie on the roof of the car
I think this is not virgin behavior

 

[johnmnf692]

Last chapter Bella wants a quickie on the roof of the car
I think this is not virgin behavior

She doesn't say anything about a quickie, she just says that she wants the MC right then and there. But I agree that the implication is that she most likely is not a virgin, I just don't think that makes the most sense with how she's written. It is what it is.

 

[yossa999]

For me is difficult to think that the characters are virgins, nowadays people lose their virginity so soon (at least in my country) and thinking about Nami or other character still being a virgin surprise me , but it makes sense too that some girls continue being virgin, like in the real life, there are people that still being virgin. And if we look at people with depression like the Mc it makes sense.
For me it isn´t a problem if the girls are virgins or not, even i prefer that they aren´t virgins, i usually don´t like the shy girl insecure about having sex because she is a virgin, but i´m good with a character with this personality if is well written.

Nami being virgin makes sense, she is obssesed with the Mc so maybe she is waitting for him to desflower her, other characters like Vic makes sense too, her personality doesn´t fits with the type of girl who fucks around with all the dudes. But there are characters that don´t make any sense to be virgins, like Bella, who is a popular girl and a total bitch, impossible that she hasn´t fucked anyone,just for the pleasure or for lose stress, that type of girl usually fuck because they are angry and want to destress themself , and of course other characters like Nia who is a naughty girl or Zara, even Amber, they are grown girls.

If Zara ever slept with someone, then I’m sure it was part of some kind of bet or a competition
In a conversation with Nami, she said that she does not have a boyfriend, as he would distract her from her plans for a sports career.

 

[JJ1960]

If Zara ever slept with someone, then I’m sure it was part of some kind of bet or a competition

Here is how her foreplay probably went:

 

[AlexFXR]

yeah we do

If you use pirated games, what are you doing on Steam?

 

[Dessolos]

Those people who buy games on Steam do not use pirated sites.

100% false sure some might not. But I do, I only play games off this site first to find out if I like the game and if I like it or play at least 1 update even if I end up hating the game later I will buy it if it comes to steam. As I feel bad and guilty about playing games for free but I rather have them on steam. Hell im not entirely comfortable with pateron or subscribe star but there is a few games id consider subbing to those devs for updates once in awhile too cause I love the game so much.

 

[RNasc4444]

There you go

Thanks!
Makes sense. Checked the script and suddenly it's no wonder why I never, ever pick going with Nami to the gym despite her being in my top 3. Good lord I can't stomach Nia...