Unreal Engine Subverse [v0.9] [Studio Fow]

[Mr. Weeaboo]

The rating of Subverse is abnormally low. Sure, for a AAA game it would maybe make sense but I believe that a honest reviewer would base their median based on the games present on F95 and this games beats most of them, it's easily in the top 100 games posted here. So, any idea why people are hating on Subverse?

Its mostly from early reviews. Lotta folks had misconceptions about the game (The NTR tag is very much not applicable here, but enough people cried wolf til it got added). And a lot are just impatient people who wished FOW had just stuck to making movies.

 

[Purple_Heart]

The rating of Subverse is abnormally low. Sure, for a AAA game it would maybe make sense but I believe that a honest reviewer would base their median based on the games present on F95 and this games beats most of them, it's easily in the top 100 games posted here. So, any idea why people are hating on Subverse?

Most reviews on f95zone doesn't mean anything. It is just like steam reviews.

But for this specific game if I am remembering correctly it was yet another ntr war coupled with people not liking how the game plays in general. For example I don't like how disconnected porn part is with the gameplay. They are like videos, completely seperated from gameplay but I didn't write a review yet as I don't like to write a review for unfinished games.

You might want to check reviews though, there might be a few reviews that explains the situation better than me.

 

[Murtagks]

Holy Christ. I finally got around to giving this a try, and I've gotta say...any of you brave souls who actually played through the entire game deserve a medal.

I have never seen such tryhard writing on this level before in my life. I get it; the game knows that it's a porn game and is trying to be self aware. But does it need to be so painfully cringe and over the top about it? Parody or not, it's hard to take it even vaguely seriously when characters are already calling each other fuccbois and being "WOW SO 18+ AND ADULT AMIRITE?" in every single sentence of every single fucking conversations. And all of that is to say nothing of the absurdly boring, simplistic gameplay.

This would all be tolerable if they blew it out of the park with the actual porn, but that definitely didn't happen. Its gameplay is trash, its story is even worse, and the porn is poorly integrated and not even all that hot. So what the hell is even the point? Anyone who actually paid $30 for this or backed their Kickstart got full blown scammed, lmao.

Honestly, what is it with porn game devs and these desperate flailings to make these "real" games anyway? Shame or something? I'm starting to lose count of all the games I've played that try to play this balancing act of good gameplay mixed with good porn, but ultimately suck at both.

The rating of Subverse is abnormally low. Sure, for a AAA game it would maybe make sense but I believe that a honest reviewer would base their median based on the games present on F95 and this games beats most of them, it's easily in the top 100 games posted here. So, any idea why people are hating on Subverse?

Chinese John Cena the post from Lycal explains it perfectly why many people dislike this game.

And another reason would be that they cast a SFW actress for Kasidora and made her un-lewdable.
It was a stupid decision from the start of the devs.
And I am surprised how out of touch they are. It was clear from the beginning, that there are people that will lewd Kasidora.
But it is now impossible, to lewd her in game.

I'm extremely disappointed with the game and hope that they don't make any more games.
And no its not only because of the "NTR" war.
Its just a bad porn game.

I would suggest to read the reviews, to see why many people dislike this game.

 

[约翰·西娜]

Chinese John Cena the post from Lycal explains it perfectly why many people dislike this game.

And another reason would be that they cast a SFW actress for Kasidora and made her un-lewdable.
It was a stupid decision from the start of the devs.
And I am surprised how out of touch they are. It was clear from the beginning, that there are people that will lewd Kasidora.
But it is now impossible, to lewd her in game.

I'm extremely disappointed with the game and hope that they don't make any more games.
And no its not only because of the "NTR" war.
Its just a bad porn game.

I would suggest to read the reviews, to see why many people dislike this game.

I've read them, that's why I posted my original comment in the first place. Most of the games here have poor writing, none existent game play and default sex scenes from honeyselect or koikatsu. I'm not saying this game deserves 5 stars but it sure as hell isn't bad enough to be rated at 2.5 stars.

 

[Murtagks]

I've read them, that's why I posted my original comment in the first place. Most of the games here have poor writing, none existent game play and default sex scenes from honeyselect or koikatsu. I'm not saying this game deserves 5 stars but it sure as hell isn't bad enough to be rated at 2.5 stars.

Ah ok.

The difference is the budget and the exception.

Players have a different exception between one single guy creating for the first time a game.
And a company that have gotten on kickstarter 2021 1.668.626£.

Thats why players will hold this game on a different level that an honeyselect or koikatsu game.

 

[Mr. Weeaboo]

Ah ok.

The difference is the budget and the exception.

Players have a different exception between one single guy creating for the first time a game.
And a company that have gotten on kickstarter 2021 1.668.626£.

Thats why players will hold this game on a different level that an honeyselect or koikatsu game.

So the single guy making their first game is okay, but a team making their first game is…bad? Y’all flaunt about the budget, but that’s been used over the last 5 years. The money doesn’t make the game, the people that work on it do.

 

[Murtagks]

So the single guy making their first game is okay, but a team making their first game is…bad? Y’all flaunt about the budget, but that’s been used over the last 5 years. The money doesn’t make the game, the people that work on it do.

I never said, that it is bad, that a team making their first game.

What I mean that there is different expectations that consumer has, between one guy and a team.

As an example, what the expectations of consumers increases.

More budget = more expectation
The higher the price = the more expectation the consumer has
You can see this in all games, that the expectation is always higher for high budget and high price game, as an example AAA games. Or now AAAA games...

People will rate this game different, then a game from a single person.
This is because:
1.The high profile company
2.The cost $29.99
3.Kickstarter 1.668.626£.

Yes, I agree and also disagree with you. Budget and the people that are working on a game are going hand in hand. You cant expect a game without money or people.



And even if only one person worked on this game, I would still rate it a 1/5 because its a bad game.

 

[Mr. Weeaboo]

I never said, that it is bad, that a team making their first game.

What I mean that there is different expectations that consumer has, between one guy and a team.

As an example, what the expectations of consumers increases.

More budget = more expectation
The higher the price = the more expectation the consumer has
You can see this in all games, that the expectation is always higher for high budget and high price game, as an example AAA games. Or now AAAA games...

People will rate this game different, then a game from a single person.
This is because:
1.The high profile company
2.The cost $29.99
3.Kickstarter 1.668.626£.

Yes, I agree and also disagree with you. Budget and the people that are working on a game are going hand in hand. You cant expect a game without money or people.



And even if only one person worked on this game, I would still rate it a 1/5 because its a bad game.

I’d have to encourage you to play more games if this is considered a 1.

 

[Murtagks]

I’d have to encourage you to play more games if this is considered a 1.

I will consider every game that I stopped playing because its too bad as a 1.

Its like school. With 50% your passes and can increase your score. And everything below 50% you failed and its a 1.

 

[Mr. Weeaboo]

I will consider every game that I stopped playing because its too bad as a 1.

Its like school. With 50% your passes and can increase your score. And everything below 50% you failed and its a 1.

And you’re also taking into account the game isn’t done yet, I’d hope. Even now in its current state it still blows practically everything else on this site out of the water. I can’t go back to basic VN’s with no voice acting, Renpy models with slightly different haircuts, and combat mechanics that are basic as match 3 or click the right object in the background.

 

[Jjac]

I like the gameplay but I'm with you on the dialogue. It's a bit cringe.

It is cringe as f*** buy I've got the impression that it suppose to be that.

 

[Murtagks]

And you’re also taking into account the game isn’t done yet, I’d hope. Even now in its current state it still blows practically everything else on this site out of the water. I can’t go back to basic VN’s with no voice acting, Renpy models with slightly different haircuts, and combat mechanics that are basic as match 3 or click the right object in the background.

I still can change my opinion and review, what I also have done for a few of my reviews, because the game have gotten better or worse.
But for now, I rated this game in his current form. IF I will change my opinion and review depends on the future of this game.

And we both have 2 different tastes.
You like this game, and think that in the current form its even better then almost everything else on this website.
And
I dislike this game, and think that it waste of time and the devs have fucked up and wasted the potential of this game.

 

[Mr. Weeaboo]

I still can change my opinion and review, what I also have done for a few of my reviews, because the game have gotten better or worse.
But for now, I rated this game in his current form. IF I will change my opinion and review depends on the future of this game.

And we both have 2 different tastes.
You like this game, and think that in the current form its even better then almost everything else on this website.
And
I dislike this game, and think that it waste of time and the devs have fucked up and wasted the potential of this game.

So if this is a waste of time, in its current state, what does that say for games that have existed before this was even funded, and are still not complete yet?

 

[Murtagks]

So if this is a waste of time, in its current state, what does that say for games that have existed before this was even funded, and are still not complete yet?

What do you want from me with this?

I NEVER complained yet about the long development time not here and not in another game.

There are 17.665 games on this website. And clearly there are many games of the 17.665 that are a waste of time.

 

[coco2345]

Its mostly from early reviews. Lotta folks had misconceptions about the game (The NTR tag is very much not applicable here, but enough people cried wolf til it got added). And a lot are just impatient people who wished FOW had just stuck to making movies.

They made the porn disconnected with the gameplay, this is why most of the reviews are negative

 

[Mr. Weeaboo]

What do you want from me with this?

I NEVER complained yet about the long development time not here and not in another game.

There are 17.665 games on this website. And clearly there are many games of the 17.665 that are a waste of time.

So that doesn’t come off a bit harsh to call any given unfinished game a waste of time? All the smut isn’t in, the story isn’t finished, so that statement comes off a tad presumptuous.

 

[Mr. Weeaboo]

They made the porn disconnected with the gameplay, this is why most of the reviews are negative

I find this argument rather silly. Because half the complaints are that the content in pandora is short, but yet they also want it connected into the story.

Personally, I think the reason they did it this way is so players that didn’t want to watch certain content (and there were soooo many that don’t) that they don’t have to see it if they don’t unlock it. Pandora even has filters to avoid such a situation. That’s why the main story content just features scenes relevant to said story: I.E plot scenes between the captain and the waifus he recruits.

That being said, they are changing the waifu’s progression system and are updating all the planet encounters. So perhaps the version people have been wanting so much will be in 1.0. Something so big is not something that could’ve been dropped into the middle of the game development.

 

[Murtagks]

So that doesn’t come off a bit harsh to call any given unfinished game a waste of time? All the smut isn’t in, the story isn’t finished, so that statement comes off a tad presumptuous.

I never said, that a game that is unfinished is a waste of time. I said, that a bad game is a waste of time!

And for me Subverse is a bad game.

 

[Senigata]

It is cringe as f*** buy I've got the impression that it suppose to be that.

It's basically the same type of cringe dialogue you'd find in porno films just in the trappings of a pseudo-space opera.

 

[CenturionFlames]

The ratings are pretty accurate. Game isn't good. It's a terrible slog-fest, combined with shitty dialogue and rather boring MC. People need to stop chalking it up to early NTR. It doesn't exist, and people understand that now.

Point is the sex scenes are godawful, you can find better ones just looking at JAVs, Porn, or even other games here, and they at least have story relevance. Here they're an after-thought and not really worth the effort to see them. Since they're not even interactable, they're just shitty 3D porn, that you could see by looking at anyone from the animations tab, at least there you got a lot of variety.

Ultimately Subverse does porn terribly, game isn't that fun, story isn't good, and the overall cast is just eh... I could find better casts of characters in other stuff found here. But the most damning factor is as a porn game the porn just sucks. I could look up the scenes online, and they're not too different from just watching another creators animations.