So I heard patreon effectively banned anime style content

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"That means that going by your own posts Patreon has not banned anything anime style for at least 4 months"
Lol you should be a comedian, everything is up there, every screenshot of statement from Patreon's staff themselves and the one being banned to those being force to take down their paid only work because they "look underage" in NSFW anime style is up there. I said I'm not here to mouth feed you everything, since you obviously don't care if they discriminate anime style NSFW stuff from what you said in post #28 then what good do I gain from explain everything in detail when everything is up there and will be light as day with a little of research (Or without research but I don't think this standard should be apply to everyone). And God I don't have the power, the power to alter someone's love and believe in Patreon, believe all they have to say and denies all bad things those false twitter users dare to accuse them of, there are no mass porn ban in 2018, Patreon is innocent as a new born baby god dammit. Okay I have enough fun, still wait for a good replacement recommendation.
And what is the date on your post you are quoting?
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If there was a mass porn ban in 2018, why do most of these games still exist on Patreon https://f95zone.to/latest/ and more are being added all the time.
I think you should get your eyesight checked, because you cannot even read what you post.
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And what is the date on your post you are quoting?
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If there was a mass porn ban in 2018, why do most of these games still exist on Patreon https://f95zone.to/latest/ and more are being added all the time.
I think you should get your eyesight checked, because you cannot even read what you post.
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"I don't think he posts this because this is the most concrete evidence of Patreon moral warriors put their propaganda against child like art style in action, he posts this because this the only vague evidence he has against Patreon, not he doesn't have time to dig up every shitty and hypocrite thing Patreon have said and done and I strongly believe there are no NSFW content creators beside F95, pixiv never exist, 3d-2d animator artist outside f95 never exist, if they no exist, how they get ban from Patreon because of anime art style or character engage in sexual activity not express happiness or that mass ban in 2018 that clearly aiming for every single creator ever not just easy targets ?"
 

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Well, I came here after seeing a video about the situation on YouTube. If you want the take of a fairly reliable Tuber on the situation check ClownfishTV. The video is NOT definitive, but it DID cause me enough concern to find this thread.

Hope this helps.

P.S. I hope that this is NOT the start of another PURGE by Patreon, but they DO seem to like removing NSFW creators.
 

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Well, I came here after seeing a video about the situation on YouTube. If you want the take of a fairly reliable Tuber on the situation check ClownfishTV. The video is NOT definitive, but it DID cause me enough concern to find this thread.

Hope this helps.

P.S. I hope that this is NOT the start of another PURGE by Patreon, but they DO seem to like removing NSFW creators.
No surprise after that simp Senator boost the feminist believes in anime is promoting CP, calling them "wide eyes children", desperately avoid word like fictional, cartoon, doll like, to them all anime style character are children, I don't know who is the pedophile here. And it's always the feminist, they ruin movies now seek to ruin porn, ugly old stinky land whale believe fictional work urge people to commit sexual act against children, the same kind that think play GTA 5 make you wanna try bank robbery. 2020 and there are no flying cars, just moral warriors force their idea down other's throat like the communist.
 

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"I don't think he posts this because this is the most concrete evidence of Patreon moral warriors put their propaganda against child like art style in action, he posts this because this the only vague evidence he has against Patreon, not he doesn't have time to dig up every shitty and hypocrite thing Patreon have said and done and I strongly believe there are no NSFW content creators beside F95, pixiv never exist, 3d-2d animator artist outside f95 never exist, if they no exist, how they get ban from Patreon because of anime art style or character engage in sexual activity not express happiness or that mass ban in 2018 that clearly aiming for every single creator ever not just easy targets ?"
No it was you who posted it on here, it is you making wild accusations that you cannot back up. It is you who cannot prove what you say. F95, does not create all those games, do you even know what you are saying?
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No it was you who posted it on here, it is you making wild accusations that you cannot back up. It is you who cannot prove what you say. F95, does not create all those games, do you even know what you are saying?
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Oh there should be "on other platform" in middle of that sarcastic comment of mine, my apology English is not my first language and that make my statement little harder for you to process the information that major target of the mass ban are 3d-2d animator and not necessary for all 3d-2d animator's content to be post on the platform called F95. But as long as you believe it doesn't exist, it doesn't exist, like the relationship between China communist and Tiananmen square, keep your love for Patreon strong as they do for you, read Patreon statement, not mine, I'm an evil doer and Patreon is the saint that never delete non-minor porn
 

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"That means that going by your own posts Patreon has not banned anything anime style for at least 4 months"
Lol you should be a comedian, everything is up there, every screenshot of statement from Patreon's staff themselves and the one being banned to
Can't you understand that there's nothing at all in what you produced as "proof" ?

When the guy write "all my artworks, including adult women, was certified to looks minor", it tell us only one thing : There were none adult women among its artworks, and so a legit reason for Patreon to ban his page, dot.

Everything else is his own claim and he produced nothing to prove that it was effectively Patreon's words, and not just the voice of his own frustration.

He played with fire, producing content effectively banned by Patreon (minor depictions) and like a child he put a tantrum when he was discovered, dot. It's the only thing that you've proved, the... only... thing...
 
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Oh there should be "on other platform" in middle of that sarcastic comment of mine, my apology English is not my first language and that make my statement little harder for you to process the information that major target of the mass ban are 3d-2d animator and not necessary for all 3d-2d animator's content to be post on the platform called F95. But as long as you believe it doesn't exist, it doesn't exist, like the relationship between China communist and Tiananmen square, keep your love for Patreon strong as they do for you, read Patreon statement, not mine, I'm an evil doer and Patreon is the saint that never delete non-minor porn
Again where is your proof? You are not the only non-native English speaking person on this site, so you cannot use that as an excuse. What information have you provided? I ask for proof and you refused to show me any. If you want to prove me wrong, show me evidence, it is as simple as that. Just remember we are in 2020 not 2018.
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Are you expecting me to take your word over Patreon, without any proof?
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Can't you understand that there's nothing at all in what you produced as "proof" ?

When the guy write "all my artworks, including adult women, was certified to looks minor", it tell us only one thing : There were none adult women among its artworks, and so a legit reason for Patreon to ban his page, dot.

Everything else is his own claim and he produced nothing to prove that it was effectively Patreon's words, and not just the voice of his own frustration.

He played with fire, producing content effectively banned by Patreon (minor depictions) and like a child he put a tantrum when he was discovered, dot. It's the only thing that you've proved, the... only... thing...
Cool, let assume all of his artwork on his Patreon page have no adult women when you have never seen and knowing nothing about what he posts on his Patreon and what he posts only on Pixiv, Patreon one day give him an unofficial guideline which discriminate his old and new work and count them as minor engage in sexual activity and ban him. What they count as minor is on the post #21. Plug said that she look minor and that is not count as proof, you come and assume his works have no adult women lol, I'm really happy for Patreon, they work so hard that they have people support them through false accusation, who need research right ? All you need is believe Patreon always make the right call, nothing to see here boys, just a salty dude promoting CP with >18yo character being banned, common sense am I right ? Fuck those twitter users hating because we don't support their CP style, can you imagine the noble Patreon have to go out of their way to clarify false rumor ? I wonder WHY THERE ARE RUMOR IN THE FIRST PLACE
 

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Well, I came here after seeing a video about the situation on YouTube. If you want the take of a fairly reliable Tuber on the situation check ClownfishTV. The video is NOT definitive, but it DID cause me enough concern to find this thread.

Hope this helps.

P.S. I hope that this is NOT the start of another PURGE by Patreon, but they DO seem to like removing NSFW creators.

Thanks for the share. Maybe after the other folks stop yelling at each other they will watch this.

Irony is saying that a woman isn't a woman unless she has large breasts and hips. In trying to be progressive Patreon is actually be regressive by creating body image issues for women. SJW run amok...

Maybe its the plastic surgery industry trying to drum up more clients!
 

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Seems like a further attempt to drive out adult games from what I can see, it's not a blanket ban which make it effective in gradually phasing them out, you have some posters here going not a big deal because they don't understand the situation.

Its a very hostile work environment when at any moment patreon can just say no.
 

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The relevant section here seems to be "Offensive and graphic creations"
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Uh... So if they allow for fiction such as game of thrones, or lolita..... that have fringe fetish's such as incest etc... Then why ban games with such content? It's fiction after all? Game of thrones surly didn't come with any historical or educational narrative. Or is it just because games, art etc, is just more in your face graphical? Still fiction for adults...
 

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Nothing like telling women they have no value without over-sized breasts and large child bearing hips. Does wonders for their self-esteem and makes men truly value them for who they are and not objectify them...rolling my eyes. Way to go SJW!

All about empowerment and body positive images until we're not!
 
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Uh... So if they allow for fiction such as game of thrones, or lolita..... that have fringe fetish's such as incest etc... Then why ban games with such content? It's fiction after all? Game of thrones surly didn't come with any historical or educational narrative. Or is it just because games, art etc, is just more in your face graphical? Still fiction for adults...
IMO, there's at least two parts to it. The first is pre-existing product/creator recognition and support. GoT was an established novel series Finish your books George that got optioned into a HBO Series, whereas Lolita is recognized as a canonical literary work. (i.e. safe choices) 18+ content creation by comparison is niche and does not enjoy the same level of recognition and support. So it's easier to remove because the public backlash will be less.

This leads into the second, and more sinister, part of it:
This is a "boiling-the-frog" style of dissuasion on Patreon's part intended to create a chilling effect.

Let's say Patreon wants its public branding to reflect supporting creators with a minimum risk of branding harm. So how do you remove 'risky' content creators that aren't per se violating the rules? You chip away at the edges.

They'll say:
"'[Insert Your McGuffin Here] is too extreme/hateful/etc.', so we banned it."
Most people won't complain and won't take the time to check first-hand if what they're being told is true.

Now you have a new edge that's 'too extreme', so you can ban that too when it becomes a liability to your brand.
The people who recognize what's happening and don't leave will self-censor to stay on the service (the chilling effect).
And the people who recognize what's happening and jump ship have gone someplace else, so fuck'em.

Patreon is obviously doing this if you examine their treatment of, say, ASMR creators or political commentators of all stripes.

Two birds, one stone: Patreon doesn't have to risk a backlash for removing a creator, and they've mitigated damage to their brand.
 

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IMO, there's at least two parts to it. The first is pre-existing product/creator recognition and support. GoT was an established novel series Finish your books George that got optioned into a HBO Series, whereas Lolita is recognized as a canonical literary work. (i.e. safe choices) 18+ content creation by comparison is niche and does not enjoy the same level of recognition and support. So it's easier to remove because the public backlash will be less.
Thing is though, R R Martin isn't done with his.. how to put it.. incesteous flair in writing though. He sure will serve up some more shocking things that will make the good folks choke on it, and probably even more so once put on the screen some time or the other with even more dramatic flair. Heck, GOT is the recipe of a lot of fringe fetish's Patreon doesn't want to allow, yet it got a massive number of followers. Heck you can even blame GOT to get people curious about such fetishes.

If someone tried to make a game based on the Dollanganger series by V.C Andrews (Flowers in the attiac, Petals on the wind, and the rest). They could flash such fringe fetish's in the face on Patreon and base it on something that sold more than forty million copies and been movie adapted two times (if not more). And they should been then clear within the rules of Patreon. Problems isn't rules, but when the same rule apply different from creator to creator.

I got no idea how much cash the combined number of "creators of adult games, art, fiction etc" bring in to patreon every month. But if they all banded together, I wouldn't be to surprised if they couldn't achieve some leverage. You have patreon run after creators that left their platform in the past to try get them back, so they apparently anxious to get business back once it walk out the door.

Imho all Patreon would really need to do, is just have an age verification check in place so people would be allowed to view and subscribe/pledge to adult content, and they should be in the clear. Heck that would make them more child friendly than any porn sites out there.
 
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Problems isn't rules, but when the same rule apply different from creator to creator.
I agree, and I think this is a result of Patreon trying to manage their brand:
Patreon wants its public branding to reflect supporting creators with a minimum risk of branding harm.
I got no idea how much cash the combined number of "creators of adult games, art, fiction etc" bring in to patreon every month. But if they all banded together, I wouldn't be to surprised if they couldn't achieve some leverage. You have patreon run after creators that left their platform in the past to try get them back, so they apparently anxious to get business back once it walk out the door.
I see their trying to get creators back as indicative that they initially pushed too hard (Raised the boil too fast), so they tried to mitigate the damage.
Also, even if all the 18+ creators unified, if Patreon saw it as a liability or potential liability in the future, ITT they'd gladly let them go.

Imho all Patreon would really need to do, is just have an age verification check in place so people would be allowed to view and subscribe/pledge to adult content, and they should be in the clear. Heck that would make them more child friendly than any porn sites out there.
They already have the standard "Are you 18 or of legal age to view these adult materials?" check on adult pages and in their ToS, or did you mean something beyond/different to that?
 

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Exactly my point! Patreon is already beginning to be too large - which is why I wish creators would have both as options, Patreon as well as Subscribestar. If I recall, when Patreon started, it took quite a while to grow it to the point it is now, so we should need to start supporting alternative platforms now rather than later when it will definitely be too late. Then again, I will never be too mad at devs who just want to make the most money possible - money, after all, pays the rent.

All I'm asking is
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Devs can have both however there is one major issue with Subscribestar ... no PayPal.

I only use PayPal online so can't support anyone on any other platform that doesn't use it, i'm not the only one.
 
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Devs can have both however there is one major issue with Subscribestar ... no PayPal.

I only use PayPal online so can't support anyone on any other platform that doesn't use it, i'm not the only one.
You could look into Stripe, they're a PayPal competitor and fairly large. But they're not much different than PayPal if you search for "stripe bans". Google and Amazon also offer such services (but I haven't looked into them so, grain of salt).

You could also see if any of are useful. (See Link/Thumbnail for full list)
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