Meles

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Seymour threatening to shut down Lena's stalkfap account was the worst, illogical, unbelievable threat ever. Sounds like someone who has no idea of the digital age and how it works there. Oldtimers that intrude a world they know nothing about vs digital natives like Billy, the later who would whip the floor with Seymour. Regardless if Seymour is an economic high society veteran and Billy a simpleminded idiot. RL example, some twitter highups delete Trumps tweets. At best Seymours PR can try to cancel Lena, but she can easily perform anonymously or limitless other various online ways to still get cash. Deleting her profile is a threat worth shit.
I think it's believable, for Seymour. He is a man who still thinks of digital in the same vein as physical - you need right connections, put some effort, and everything can be done. But yeah, it's a worthless threat.

Hack Stalkfap? Not really possible - Seymour isn't deep in tech for that, and I believe security for such media is more than high.

Connect with SF owners to take it down? Possible, but unlikely. They might take a bribe, but this won't be good for their business to be caught, and they don't really have any interest unless it's a *massive* bribe - Seymour is of zero interest for them.

Buy it? Not only it's a waste of money, but ownership of adult social media is a heavy hit on his public reputation.

Just leak the photos? Oh no, a well-known nude model who poses for exhibitions and advertises her OnlyFans has her onlyfans leaked. That's literally not the news, and has around zero impact on her prospects outside of some modelling agencies, and even then, they would most likely just act to delete it.

Put her to court for breaching the contract? Possible, but it's more of a hit for Seymour's reputation, and maximum damage is a couple of months' rent.

For SFW social media to delete someone's account, you need either their personal interest (like Trump), interest from the government (and Seymour is playing in the kiddies pool of city elections), or, the best case, having a policy of autotakedowns for copyright infringement, which can be reversed.

But SF is NSFW media. Pornhub dukes it out with European Union and USA state governments, they won't cave to some moderately filthy rich guy. You need CP concerns for a takedown, or, again, a massive bribe, and even that is unlikely.

Cancel? Again, she is a public nude model who advertises her SF in her Insta - nothing sexual outside of illegal is a threat to her reputation. Lena also doesn't have a job worth the effort - she works in a cafe, and owners are treating her practically like her daughter. Destroying the cafe is possible and Seymour is petty enough to do that. But so what? She can apply to any other waitress job. She can skip town in the worst case, and do modelling there - he isn't able to stalk every modelling agency, and out of town, his influence is much less.

In the town, Seymour is a big fish, but the world is an ocean, and he is insignificant in comparison. What he can do? He can try to punish Ian and Van Dykes. He can go all in for an election to use administrative resource later (again, skipping town). The worst would probably leaking evidence of her cheating, but that ship has sailed in C12.


So, in the end, you can't stop the signal.

(Also, I still root for Stan's fedora/Perry route)
 

Meles

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He's already told Lena, that he's going to fix the Literary competition so Ian wins. He said Ian will win, if she took the deal with him. The only way he could know that, was if he was bribing the judges. He also suggests that he can make it, so Ian has no chance of winning. So if he's prepared to commit fraud, to fix a Literary competition, the implication is clear that he'll probably do the same thing to fix the city election, because as he states clearly to Lena, he expects to do very well from overthrowing Mayor Vemeer's administration.
The difference is night and day. The competition is done by himself, with him in the judges, on his home turf, using very subjective criteria for choosing the winner - it's nearly impossible to prove fraud unless Ian sends a blank manuscript.\

He has no way to "fix" the election. Something like that, just to begin with requires access to administrative resource, and that's only Vermeer has. Rigging ballot boxes, sending "election carousels", etc - that's simply not viable even for someone organizing the vote (unless you are in an authoritarian country), much less for a challenger. Any attempt would be caught and lead to a sea of troubles.

As for the Internet, sure, manipulating it is not impossible. Just not on the Seymours level of influence. He's not the government, likely not a digital media mogul (Possibly, he has fingers in the print press), and at the very best, around a billion in net worth.
 

lucadiadis

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I think it's believable, for Seymour. He is a man who still thinks of digital in the same vein as physical - you need right connections, put some effort, and everything can be done. But yeah, it's a worthless threat.

Hack Stalkfap? Not really possible - Seymour isn't deep in tech for that, and I believe security for such media is more than high.

Connect with SF owners to take it down? Possible, but unlikely. They might take a bribe, but this won't be good for their business to be caught, and they don't really have any interest unless it's a *massive* bribe - Seymour is of zero interest for them.

Buy it? Not only it's a waste of money, but ownership of adult social media is a heavy hit on his public reputation.

Just leak the photos? Oh no, a well-known nude model who poses for exhibitions and advertises her OnlyFans has her onlyfans leaked. That's literally not the news, and has around zero impact on her prospects outside of some modelling agencies, and even then, they would most likely just act to delete it.

Put her to court for breaching the contract? Possible, but it's more of a hit for Seymour's reputation, and maximum damage is a couple of months' rent.

For SFW social media to delete someone's account, you need either their personal interest (like Trump), interest from the government (and Seymour is playing in the kiddies pool of city elections), or, the best case, having a policy of autotakedowns for copyright infringement, which can be reversed.

But SF is NSFW media. Pornhub dukes it out with European Union and USA state governments, they won't cave to some moderately filthy rich guy. You need CP concerns for a takedown, or, again, a massive bribe, and even that is unlikely.

Cancel? Again, she is a public nude model who advertises her SF in her Insta - nothing sexual outside of illegal is a threat to her reputation. Lena also doesn't have a job worth the effort - she works in a cafe, and owners are treating her practically like her daughter. Destroying the cafe is possible and Seymour is petty enough to do that. But so what? She can apply to any other waitress job. She can skip town in the worst case, and do modelling there - he isn't able to stalk every modelling agency, and out of town, his influence is much less.

In the town, Seymour is a big fish, but the world is an ocean, and he is insignificant in comparison. What he can do? He can try to punish Ian and Van Dykes. He can go all in for an election to use administrative resource later (again, skipping town). The worst would probably leaking evidence of her cheating, but that ship has sailed in C12.


So, in the end, you can't stop the signal.

(Also, I still root for Stan's fedora/Perry route)
The last sentence spoiled it all.
 
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Gicoo

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Forget how many judges there are. But the votes could be influenced, just how you can influence numerous other outcomes in the game, like book score, Jeremies chances with Ivy etc.

One or several judges may be on Seymours side, so if Lena and Ian antagonize or befriend him, they vote accordingly, regardless of the quality of the book.

Victor is very like uncorrupt and votes the best book, so the actual book quality is relevant. Maybe he favors Ian in case of a tie. More likely if Ian read Hollys book, less likely if he discouraged Holly.

Minerva could make the vote entirely personal: If Ian is on bad terms with her, she doesn't vote him out of spite. If he was polite, meek and always apologized, she may give him a chance. And if he fucks her, she votes for him unless maybe if he specificies that he doesn't want help.
 
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Love this game, done a variety of different playthroughs over the past few days...

One question, which I've tried to find an answer to but haven't been successful: I've seen 2 different versions of Holly during the beach scene near the end of the latest update - one where she's texting on her phone at the beach (Ian dating Lena in this playthrough) and one where she's reading a book in the same spot (Ian dating Holly in this playthrough). My question is, is there any way of getting the version of Holly who is texting, while she is also dating Ian?
 

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Does anybody have the newest version? The OP is still the one from May 5th.
That version (chapter 12.2 full) should already be the newest release, unless I overlooked something.

Love this game, done a variety of different playthroughs over the past few days...

One question, which I've tried to find an answer to but haven't been successful: I've seen 2 different versions of Holly during the beach scene near the end of the latest update - one where she's texting on her phone at the beach (Ian dating Lena in this playthrough) and one where she's reading a book in the same spot (Ian dating Holly in this playthrough). My question is, is there any way of getting the version of Holly who is texting, while she is also dating Ian?
Probably not because she is likely texting someone she is dating. Which isn't the case if she is dating Ian.
 

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That version (chapter 12.2 full) should already be the newest release, unless I overlooked something.
There was a "final final" update 2 days after we got the version that's currently in the OP. It was a bit of

Chapter 12 Status Report (9)

May 7

Hi everyone! The release cycle for Chapter 12.2 has just wrapped up, and the road to 12.3 continues.
During this last week I've been fixing and polishing the latest release (I just re-uploaded it with the final bug and grammar fixes, you can get ir ) and making progress on the last part of this chapter, writing and producing the new drawings I need.
 
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lucadiadis

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He's got an iron will, nerves of steel, and several other metal-themed attributes.
Stan's ok in my books because he has a Battle Royale t-shirt throughout the game, which is the coolest piece of clothing ever. BR is my 5th favorite movie of all time, and Takeshi Kitano one of my favourite actors/directors/scenarists/producers/comedians. Conversely, I have met so many Perries in Spain that I just want to shoot them on sight by now. One guy I know in Andalucia, even though EK is Catalan, is his clone. Maybe she's spent some time there and met him.
 

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How corrupt can Lena and Holly get,can they become Bimbos?. That would be some Fall from Grace especially for Holly an up and coming author being consumed by lust.
 
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