jingyuchua

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You can't get it anymore. Some people claim that was bugged content, but I just think Eva has changed her mind, about allowing Ian and Lena to have sex with each others friends ( for now anyway). If you're on the open route, it's possible those scenes could be reinstated at a later stage in the game. They could also be included on the 'throuple' route, when that eventually begins.

You can only get that content now, if Ian and Lena aren't in a relationship.
Damn what's the point of experimenting in an open relationship when you are removing such experimentation content from the game???? Such a bad decision!! And Considering we have already passed the 50% of the game, when is the right time to introduce said experimentation then?!:(:cautious:
 
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Andrea9999

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Are you talking about tge shoot with Agnes? Unless something changed I don't think the two actually had sex during the shoot. The shoot was sexually charged tho.
As I recall, the closest to sex that was realized, was Axel's erect penis nestled in the crack of Lena's behind. I do not think it went further than that.
 

Andrea9999

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Agnes is a woman. When I suggested that Seymour doesn't like sharing his toys, I was of course referring to other men. Obviously at the moment, Seymour is not actually Lena's lover, and he's still trying to manoever himself into that position. So in the meantime, she's going to be having sex with other people, and Seymour can't affect that. But when he does get into that position, I think we'll see a completely different reaction from him.

Axel being in that shoot, was not originally Seymour's intention. He allowed himself to be persuaded, because he wanted to please Agnes, who will be a useful ally to have, especially if he wants to promote Lena's career as a model. She obviously has a sexual attraction to Axel, and she just wanted to see him naked, and Lena's involvement in that scene was academic from her point of view. Your insinuation that Seymour allowing Axel in that photoshoot, is evidence of his willingness to allow other men, including Ian, to get involved in sex games with Lena, is simply not bourne out. Axel was in that photoshoot purely to satisfy Agnes, and had absolutely nothing to do with what Seymour hoped to achieve with her.

It's interesting that you mention Nietzsche, because until the last update, it wasn't possible for Lena to select him as her favourite philosopher, or choose to be 'the child', because of a bug. When you do, it's noticeable that Seymour is taken aback temporarily, because Lena gets the better of him, and he can't come out with his spiel about him being the child/master as effectively, which is him saying he's superior to most people, and by implication Lena. He quickly recovers though, and gives her an evil look, and says her being much smarter than the average person, will just make everything more interesting. It's like he's saying, it will just make his conquest of her, all the sweeter.

But I wonder, if there will be a pathway, where she will ultimately turn the tables on him? Because he's not quite as smart as he thinks he is? So Lena choosing 'the child', may be part of a later option, where this might happen? If she's on the cuck route, Lena becomes increasingly dominant, to the point she laments that Mike isn't as obedient as Ian is. If he were, she could make him end his relationship with his girlfriend. So I'm wondering how far this is going to extend? Will there be a possibility for her to become dominant eventually, and this is the beginning? And ultimately, even Seymour and Axel will be made to bend to her will? In the scene with Axel, doesn't Seymour suggest even Apollo can't resist the allure of glamour, and must bend to it's will?

I also play her as submissive, and until I saw what was behind 'the child' choice, I assumed that Lena could only take a submissive role with Seymour. But now it occurs to me, why shouldn't she end up in a dominant position. Eva does tend to have a lot of different pathways in her games, so there is really no reason why we shouldn't end up with a dominant Lena? That choice reveals a slight chink in his armour, and perhaps underneath his seemingly supreme confidence, there is an element of insecurity, that he just hides very well.

Nietzsche described three stages of development, by which a person can achieve freedom. And everybody starts off as the Camel. You don't just automatically become the Lion or the Child, as Seymour insinuates. For Seymour to be the Child, he would have had to be a Camel himself initially. But Seymour believes that he's always been set apart from normal mortals, so naturally he's always been the Child. But that's a misinterpretation of what Nietzsche was trying to say. Which is probably why he equates the Child with being the Master. The Child is the master of his or her own destiny, but that doesn't literally make him a Master. As Seymour obviously believes. That's how the Nazi's twisted Nietzche's philosophy, to fit there own perverted agenda. And Seymour is effectively doing the same, to justify his own questionable actions. I think he also believes ( in his arrogance) he can reach the fourth stage ( the Overman), which Nietzsche suggests is unlikely ever to be achieved, but which the Child constantly strives for.

My guess is, that Seymour ultimately hopes to make Lena into a 'Master' as well, so she'll become a worthy companion for him, and ultimately someone worthy to inherit his fortune and continue his efforts to control Baluart.
You and I obviously want to see different things. I want Lena submissive to the max and to experience a succession of increasingly dominant and perverse handlers....Agnes and designees of Seymour.... and eventually the Emirs in the UAE. I really prefer for her at some point to experience it alone (without Ian) in order for her to not have any "safe" point in the experience. (But a dual puppet show with Ian and Lena could be an erotic interlude.)

One thing about these game trees is that, unlike some family trees, they branch. So it is possible for both of us to get what we want. I think EK's design of GGGB makes my envisioned scenarios more likely. Would you happen to know what the odds currently coming out of Las Vegas are?
 

Gicoo

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The only way you can get to the point you're talking about, is by deliberately avoiding the sex scenes between Ian and Lena, which is counter-intuitive. You're not really supposed to do that, in a loving relationship between the two of them. That's probably why you're ending ending up with weird results.
The only weird result is Lena being able to invite Ian to film her right after they broke up. Thats easily fixable.
It's like as if she would be able to invite Stan after she berates him for wanking to her pics.
Eva decided to include a dominant Lena/blueballing path, so they have to properly adjust it to make it line up with the rest of the game. Blaming the player for making a decision provided to them is faulty logic.
 

Turret

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Agnes is a woman. When I suggested that Seymour doesn't like sharing his toys, I was of course referring to other men. Obviously at the moment, Seymour is not actually Lena's lover, and he's still trying to manoever himself into that position. So in the meantime, she's going to be having sex with other people, and Seymour can't affect that. But when he does get into that position, I think we'll see a completely different reaction from him.

Axel being in that shoot, was not originally Seymour's intention. He allowed himself to be persuaded, because he wanted to please Agnes, who will be a useful ally to have, especially if he wants to promote Lena's career as a model. She obviously has a sexual attraction to Axel, and she just wanted to see him naked, and Lena's involvement in that scene was academic from her point of view. Your insinuation that Seymour allowing Axel in that photoshoot, is evidence of his willingness to allow other men, including Ian, to get involved in sex games with Lena, is simply not bourne out. Axel was in that photoshoot purely to satisfy Agnes, and had absolutely nothing to do with what Seymour hoped to achieve with her.

It's interesting that you mention Nietzsche, because until the last update, it wasn't possible for Lena to select him as her favourite philosopher, or choose to be 'the child', because of a bug. When you do, it's noticeable that Seymour is taken aback temporarily, because Lena gets the better of him, and he can't come out with his spiel about him being the child/master as effectively, which is him saying he's superior to most people, and by implication Lena. He quickly recovers though, and gives her an evil look, and says her being much smarter than the average person, will just make everything more interesting. It's like he's saying, it will just make his conquest of her, all the sweeter.

But I wonder, if there will be a pathway, where she will ultimately turn the tables on him? Because he's not quite as smart as he thinks he is? So Lena choosing 'the child', may be part of a later option, where this might happen? If she's on the cuck route, Lena becomes increasingly dominant, to the point she laments that Mike isn't as obedient as Ian is. If he were, she could make him end his relationship with his girlfriend. So I'm wondering how far this is going to extend? Will there be a possibility for her to become dominant eventually, and this is the beginning? And ultimately, even Seymour and Axel will be made to bend to her will? In the scene with Axel, doesn't Seymour suggest even Apollo can't resist the allure of glamour, and must bend to it's will?

I also play her as submissive, and until I saw what was behind 'the child' choice, I assumed that Lena could only take a submissive role with Seymour. But now it occurs to me, why shouldn't she end up in a dominant position. Eva does tend to have a lot of different pathways in her games, so there is really no reason why we shouldn't end up with a dominant Lena? That choice reveals a slight chink in his armour, and perhaps underneath his seemingly supreme confidence, there is an element of insecurity, that he just hides very well.

Nietzsche described three stages of development, by which a person can achieve freedom. And everybody starts off as the Camel. You don't just automatically become the Lion or the Child, as Seymour insinuates. For Seymour to be the Child, he would have had to be a Camel himself initially. But Seymour believes that he's always been set apart from normal mortals, so naturally he's always been the Child. But that's a misinterpretation of what Nietzsche was trying to say. Which is probably why he equates the Child with being the Master. The Child is the master of his or her own destiny, but that doesn't literally make him a Master. As Seymour obviously believes. That's how the Nazi's twisted Nietzche's philosophy, to fit there own perverted agenda. And Seymour is effectively doing the same, to justify his own questionable actions. I think he also believes ( in his arrogance) he can reach the fourth stage ( the Overman), which Nietzsche suggests is unlikely ever to be achieved, but which the Child constantly strives for.

My guess is, that Seymour ultimately hopes to make Lena into a 'Master' as well, so she'll become a worthy companion for him, and ultimately someone worthy to inherit his fortune and continue his efforts to control Baluart.
You might be correct with your theory about Seymour or you might not, but she is interesting! Still I doubt it, because if we look at the character list of the game the supposed main antagonist Seymour is quite a bit away from the major a... in the game. There are worse people our Ian and Lena have to meet and interact with than him. To an extend, he is "simping" for Lena so far. There are even reasons we can theorise about him maybe being Lena´s Dad.
As said, on the a...hole scale of the characters in ORS Seymour so far is nowhere near the top, there are other before him.
 

lucadiadis

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That's just, like, your opinion mate. Vanilla is boring and I don't find it superior to other routes
In terms of the quality of the writing ("It made me shiver, and it made me melt" VS. "Give me your alpha cock !") it is my opinion, like, it is my opinion that Washington is the current capital of the US (some Trump voters might challenge me on that, granted).
 

Andrea9999

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In terms of the quality of the writing ("It made me shiver, and it made me melt" VS. "Give me your alpha cock !") it is my opinion, like, it is my opinion that Washington is the current capital of the US (some Trump voters might challenge me on that, granted).
Apologies...but both examples you cited sound vanilla to me. Lena's reflections on the Seymour office interludes sound more erotic and hold the promise for heating up. And I believe Wall Street and Madison Avenue may be the capitals of America. (with no political leaning intended.)
If you look back at posts of Dolfe67, I believe he wishes to take Lena way, way off the deep end. Enough to make my speculations look vanilla. For that, I believe the emirs around Dubai would have tired of her or used her to near completion and sent her to Thailand...where....well....I do not have the time to address that properly right now; I will try to speculate on possible scenarios that might excite Dolfe67 a bit later.
 
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xvertion121

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Do you see the animation tag?
No thats why i asked. I just couldn't belive a game this populer doesn't have animation. Wanted to double check. Again its not like i am looking for that. There are people who avoid games if they don't have animation and its good to see its not the case here.
 

lucadiadis

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Apologies...but both examples you cited sound vanilla to me. Lena's reflections on the Seymour office interludes sound more erotic and hold the promise for heating up. And I believe Wall Street and Madison Avenue may be the capitals of America. (with no political leaning intended.)
If you look back at posts of Dolfe67, I believe he wishes to take Lena way, way off the deep end. Enough to make my speculations look vanilla. For that, I believe the emirs around Dubai would have tired of her or used her to near completion and sent her to Thailand...where....well....I do not have the time to address that properly right now; I will try to speculate on possible scenarios that might excite Dolfe67 a bit later.
The HQ of my previous employer was Bangkok and I have been there countless times. Lena is already too old for Bangkok (not for me though). Jasmine would have a better chance over there actually, including with expats (not me though).
 

Andrea9999

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The HQ of my previous employer was Bangkok and I have been there countless times. Lena is already too old for Bangkok (not for me though). Jasmine would have a better chance over there actually, including with expats (not me though).
I know. *sigh* I know. But you are forgetting the freak market. Or have I been misinformed?
 
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No thats why i asked. I just couldn't belive a game this populer doesn't have animation. Wanted to double check. Again its not like i am looking for that. There are people who avoid games if they don't have animation and its good to see its not the case here.
Some of the scenes have simple, few frames transitions, but there's no animations to speak of per se. The game is popular due to degree of branching it offers, decent writing and very nice (traced) art.
 

lucadiadis

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I would characterize Jasmine as a dom trans.
Western expats love it. The lad who recommended to me to this company, who had worked with me previously in Saudi Arabia, father of two, hardcore rightwinger, fanatically religious, monarchist, belonged to an ultraconservative thinktank, well his 6pm routine after work was to go to the red light disctrict and get fucked by Jasmines before going back to his wife.
 
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