Ren'Py Abandoned On My Own [v0.0.6] [Slonique]

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Voilsh

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Ok, I'm the author of this game.
I started this game when I realized, that another game Abyss has come to the dead end. Yep, when you fall down from $1400 to $900, it's about time to understand, that something is wrong. I've seen tons of shitty games with shitty 3d pictures, that make over $3k per month just because the game is about cuckolds and netorare. O tempora, o mores! Nobody want to play as alpha male, everybody want to be a cuck.
Also, this build is not for public, it's an intermediate release for patrons only. It has bugs and the gameplay is not tuned.
There is a market for everything, though I usually prefer the male mc undercover voyeur stuff and slow corruption (no sex or nude within 5mn of playing like I've seen many times). NTR I like but usually it's so badly written in western games there's no point really.
And Abyss was actually not bad at all, are you abandoning it too?
Just don't stop every game you create, that's what makes people out: finish a game, build a reputation...
 

Ozygator

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Ok, I'm the author of this game.
I started this game when I realized, that another game Abyss has come to the dead end. Yep, when you fall down from $1400 to $900, it's about time to understand, that something is wrong. I've seen tons of shitty games with shitty 3d pictures, that make over $3k per month just because the game is about cuckolds and netorare. O tempora, o mores! Nobody want to play as alpha male, everybody want to be a cuck.
Also, this build is not for public, it's an intermediate release for patrons only. It has bugs and the gameplay is not tuned.
Actually no... What causes a drop in people being a Patreon is usually one of the following reasons:
1) When 'dev's start working on 2+ games at the same time
2) They take forever to actually release anything (or release shitty 5 min worth of game play in an entire month)
3) Have zero coherent story and/or tack on shit that makes no sense or start pandering to a niche crowd that formerly wasn't the focus of the game.

I have dropped a lot of developers on Patreon for any and all of these reasons, especially when they start working on multiple games at once and/or start to take months between updates that don't really add anything new to the game itself.

I can name multiple games that don't have cuck/NTR in them that make pretty good, Dreams of Desire, Dating my Daughter, The Twist, just to name a few. Of course, those cater to other fetishes, but if you just want to make a game with an "alpha" male as an excuse to make some rapey type thing you'll find that turns people off also.

And yes, look at a lot of those NTR/cuckgames, many/most of the most popular also have women as the MC and they are basically bimbofication (or corruption I guess is a different way to the same end result).

Make a good story game, release updates timely that actually have content, and make it look like you spent more than 5 min making poses, or not using stock/default models (if using 3D) and your game will make bank.
 

Aiden

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Actually no... What causes a drop in people being a Patreon is usually one of the following reasons:
1) When 'dev's start working on 2+ games at the same time
2) They take forever to actually release anything (or release shitty 5 min worth of game play in an entire month)
3) Have zero coherent story and/or tack on shit that makes no sense or start pandering to a niche crowd that formerly wasn't the focus of the game.

I have dropped a lot of developers on Patreon for any and all of these reasons, especially when they start working on multiple games at once and/or start to take months between updates that don't really add anything new to the game itself.

I can name multiple games that don't have cuck/NTR in them that make pretty good, Dreams of Desire, Dating my Daughter, The Twist, just to name a few. Of course, those cater to other fetishes, but if you just want to make a game with an "alpha" male as an excuse to make some rapey type thing you'll find that turns people off also.

And yes, look at a lot of those NTR/cuckgames, many/most of the most popular also have women as the MC and they are basically bimbofication (or corruption I guess is a different way to the same end result).

Make a good story game, release updates timely that actually have content, and make it look like you spent more than 5 min making poses, or not using stock/default models (if using 3D) and your game will make bank.
In the new update of the Twist, you can cuck yourself, Dreams of desire aswell if you choose the wrong outfit , and DMD i guess its starting a little bit ( option to let people watch ) but i agree with most of the things you said
 

j5LDC2TB

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Sorry Slon' but I hate cuck games, unless i'm cucking some shlub, the reason your money drops is not listening to patron needs IE save capability, sensible gameplay Abyss was part guess work and finally, finding out you are incapable of finishing a game, you are either unreliable or a time waster/ money grabber based on past projects, prove your doubters wrong and finish the damn game instead of excuses! Have you seem boomatica's output? in 10 I repeat 10 days he has put out 6 V's and nearly tripled size! is it rough? yes! is it buggy? yes! but at least he/she is working, fixing and responding. Normally
I hate to burn someone but you and others like you have had this coming, YOU put your hats in the ring now move your ass! Oh and one more thing set up your story line and stick to it, before your story looks like a three legged drunken spider with graphite legs trying to draw a crosscountry tour of america, via con dios MF!
 
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slonique

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Sorry Slon' but I hate cuck games, unless i'm cucking some shlub, the reason your money drops is not listening to patron needs IE save capability, sensible gameplay Abyss was part guess work and finally, finding out you are incapable of finishing a game, you are either unreliable or a time waster/ money grabber based on past projects, prove your doubters wrong and finish the damn game instead of excuses! Have you seem boomatica's output? in 10 I repeat 10 days he has put out 6 V's and nearly tripled size! is it rough? yes! is it buggy? yes! but at least he/she is working, fixing and responding. Normally
I hate to burn someone but you and others like you have had this coming, YOU put your hats in the ring now move your ass! Oh and one more thing set up your story line and stick to it, before your story looks like a three legged drunken spider with graphite legs trying to draw a crosscountry tour of america, via con dios MF!
Oh, I see. Seems you prefer quantity over quality. In 10 days you can't make anything good, just a huge pile of crap. It's ok if you like it, but I don't want to be yet another shitlord. If a game has many bugs, it doesn't mean that author works hard. It means he doesn't even care to test it. If a 3D picture looks good, it means author spent hours setting up the lights and this is the work, not making 100 ugly pictures in short terms.
Seems I should have created another patreon and put current in "breading season" mode, promising a lot and doing nothing.
 

Bloo

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Ok, I'm the author of this game.
I started this game when I realized, that another game Abyss has come to the dead end. Yep, when you fall down from $1400 to $900, it's about time to understand, that something is wrong. I've seen tons of shitty games with shitty 3d pictures, that make over $3k per month just because the game is about cuckolds and netorare. O tempora, o mores! Nobody want to play as alpha male, everybody want to be a cuck.
Also, this build is not for public, it's an intermediate release for patrons only. It has bugs and the gameplay is not tuned.
Oh, I see. Seems you prefer quantity over quality. In 10 days you can't make anything good, just a huge pile of crap. It's ok if you like it, but I don't want to be yet another shitlord. If a game has many bugs, it doesn't mean that author works hard. It means he doesn't even care to test it. If a 3D picture looks good, it means author spent hours setting up the lights and this is the work, not making 100 ugly pictures in short terms.
Seems I should have created another patreon and put current in "breading season" mode, promising a lot and doing nothing.
Pretty sure the reason you keep losing Patrons is your own incompetence. You can't deliver a single finished game and keep abandoning projects. Hell you're pretty much telling us you're thinking about abandoning Abyss to work on this new one, again.
People just don't trust you enough not to leave them hanging, plus your games just aren't good. You talk about quality, well there's no quality in Abyss or any of your previous games. At least the lousy shits who put out 100 renders per month for their shitty games don't abandon their shitty games like you do so frequently. Keep talking a big game and end up like the rest of the shit who people just don't care about anymore, it's not like you're remotely popular anyway, there's dozens of chums making 5k a month with crappy projects just like yours.

PS: Quoting you "Seems I should have created another patreon and put current in "breading season" mode, promising a lot and doing nothing." That's your current Patreon in a nutshell mate, Breading Season did abandon their shit, much like yours.

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yuki

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Ok, I'm the author of this game.
I started this game when I realized, that another game Abyss has come to the dead end. Yep, when you fall down from $1400 to $900, it's about time to understand, that something is wrong. I've seen tons of shitty games with shitty 3d pictures, that make over $3k per month just because the game is about cuckolds and netorare. O tempora, o mores! Nobody want to play as alpha male, everybody want to be a cuck.
Also, this build is not for public, it's an intermediate release for patrons only. It has bugs and the gameplay is not tuned.
ok i just got thru playing both of your games and i can say with out a doubt that they are crap even games like the four elements have good plot yours not so much (plot of four elements not creative also but still better) or rouge like by oni or even dating my daughter
 

Adoringfan

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I will say @slonique has pretty good renders, it's what got me to look at Abyss anyway. After playing it though I found it to be a nothing sandwich. Sure you might have good renders but that is just the bread, I think what it was lacking was substance, you need meat dammit! A game needs something enjoyable: a good story or likeable characters or some witty dialogue or fun mechanics, literally anything. It doesn't help that you are starting to look like another mysterful, that guy scraps and starts new projects every time he has an idea. Unfortunately he only really ever tells the same story over and over again, to his defense though he doesn't charge folks for his hobby. If you can't write a story you can always find a writer, maybe you just need someone to bounce ideas off of. Do not take what people say here personally, that attitude will only ruin you, no artist became a master over night. Accept criticisms and try to adjust and get better.
 

riddikk91

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I must agree with you Adoringfan... Because of the great looking renders, I tried to get used to playing Abyss as well but you can't even corrupt her enough to have sex (or watch her have sex)! Maybe I got it wrong but I though t it was a porn game - boy was I mistaken! I tried this one too because of the great looking renders but without any substance, maybe Slonique should start using his skills (& he REALLY has some serious skills!!) to make comics... there's plenty of good 'uns out there too. Just my 2c worth...
 
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slonique

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Haters gonna hate:
- Man, your game sucks!!! Nobody likes it!!!
- Ok, I'll try something different.
- NO!!! Finish this one first!!!
- But it sucks and nobody likes it.
- FFFUUUU

Also, about the reputation:
1. Dating My Daughter - 0 reputation, 0 finished games, $25k per month.
2. Dreams Of Desire (second game from the author of DMD) - 0 reputation, 0 finished games, $8k+ for v0.02. Yeah, this guy works so hard, he twits a lot about it.
3. Big Brother - 0 reputation, 0 finished games, 1 abandoned game, $22k per month.
4. Akabur - over 9000 reputation, 2 finished games, $6k per month.
Reputation fuck yeah!
 

Bloo

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Haters gonna hate:
- Man, your game sucks!!! Nobody likes it!!!
- Ok, I'll try something different.
- NO!!! Finish this one first!!!
- But it sucks and nobody likes it.
- FFFUUUU

Also, about the reputation:
1. Dating My Daughter - 0 reputation, 0 finished games, $25k per month.
2. Dreams Of Desire (second game from the author of DMD) - 0 reputation, 0 finished games, $8k+ for v0.02. Yeah, this guy works so hard, he twits a lot about it.
3. Big Brother - 0 reputation, 0 finished games, 1 abandoned game, $22k per month.
4. Akabur - over 9000 reputation, 2 finished games, $6k per month.
Reputation fuck yeah!
Comparing your game to the first 3 is comparing apples to oranges, don't flatter yourself. Akabur i agree, he's a lazy bastard who constantly abandons projects. The other 3 don't have a reputation for abandoning shit like you, people already say they wont sub to you because they'll get burned. And that your games aren't any good but that's beyond the point.
 

JQuiche

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Shit man you're just a shitty person actually xDDD

WHERE did you find that Lewdlab, that is making DREAMS OF DESIRE, is the same author of DATING MY DAUGHTER, that is to say, MrDots ??? You're just full of salt because you get no support, no money xD


I won't even look at this thread anymore, because of one single fact :

you CAN'T question yourself, you just don't know how to do so. You NEVER think that the fault may be yours. You just hate people and say "oh my god people are so stupid they give money to other creators but not me bouhouhou"
Well YEAH, we give money to people we can TRUST, you, as a matter of fact, deserve no trust because of what has already been said : you can't make a full game, and yiu can't even communicate correctly with people.

So I'd suggest you take a break, you think of your life and what you really want to do, because you won't get anywhere with that mentality of yours.
 

Gio

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@slonique you keep abandoning projects and then u question why ppl dont stay with you?
i thought abyss was ok, could use some improvements
but alas nop abandon it lets start a new one for this month
 

Hexel

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Also, about the reputation:
1. Dating My Daughter - 0 reputation, 0 finished games, $25k per month.
Good game, regularly and quick updates, speaking with the comunity/very activ

2. Dreams Of Desire (second game from the author of DMD) - 0 reputation, 0 finished games, $8k+ for v0.02. Yeah, this guy works so hard, he twits a lot about it.
Good game, regularly and quick updates, speaking with the comunity/very activ

3. Big Brother - 0 reputation, 0 finished games, 1 abandoned game, $22k per month.
Good quality and the fans can mod it to their hearts

4. Akabur - over 9000 reputation, 2 finished games, $6k per month.
Reputation fuck yeah!
Last version of his new game was shit and he takes very long to produce his games so 6k is absoluty ok and still a lot of money


Reputation is nothing, you can be a superstar today and lying in the streets tomorow. All that matters is to be with the right idea, at the right place, to the right time and then work hard to give the people what they want!
 

Ozygator

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In the new update of the Twist, you can cuck yourself, Dreams of desire aswell if you choose the wrong outfit , and DMD i guess its starting a little bit ( option to let people watch ) but i agree with most of the things you said
The Twist, YOU (the player) choose it or not, it's not forced on you. DoD, it's again based on player choice. If you don't want to see it reload, choose a different outfit. DmD, it's not even in the game, so don't act like its an example.

For all three of these mentioned, its either optional and can be avoided, or not even in the game. It's not like the Big Brother for example, where the player is forced into it and has no choice other than not play.

So your point again was what?
 
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Adoringfan

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@slonique don't act like Hillary Clinton and yell at people about why you aren't 50 points ahead, that doesn't help you any. No one is trying to beat you up here, cept maybe @JQuiche who is probably right that you might need a break. Play to your strengths and at least be able to admit your weaknesses.
 
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slonique

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@slonique you keep abandoning projects and then u question why ppl dont stay with you?
i thought abyss was ok, could use some improvements
but alas nop abandon it lets start a new one for this month
I keep looking for the good gameplay formula. You know, It's damn hard to create something playable, criticizing is always much more easy. I spent almost a year on my first game KULT and got $20 on patreon. Twenty bucks for a year of work, awesome! When I started the Abyss, I had less then $100 donations. Today I have $1k and I keep trying. I don't promise a lot, I don't spam in twitter "OMG new release is coming in 2 days", I just fucking do it.
 
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