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[Deleted member 3145675]

Yes, and there is literally my reply to it just above. In post #15.
Where I express confusion at how Rule 7 works. So I fail to see why you were just repeating what was already said. And also adding my part about the miner, which possibly isn't even true.
Anyway, my last sentences in that post are more directed towards any future incidents like this rather than this one. Even if I 100% knew the reason for the removal of these games now, I didn't earlier. That worry could've been avoided had the reasons been stated sooner. Not that anyone here owes me any explanations for anything. But it still would've been nice.

Hi,
I already add had seen the "crypto" thingie in another thread, and you are correct:

you don't understand the phrasing of rule 7: 2D and 'unrealistic' depictions are generally looked upon more favorably.

simply means that if the character concerned by an eventual Rule 7 ban examination is both at the same time in 2D drawn AND "not human" (like an elf, a dwarf, a fungus, a slime creature) the moderators MAY probably let it pass.
(but if they don't want to let it pass, they CAN ban it)

Faster translation of Rule 7: Anything that may be considered close to C.Pornography (according to most countries legal systems) will get banned.
TC.

Edit: bad grammar.

 

[ponyguy]

Hi,
I already add seen the "crypto" thingie in another thread, and you are correct:

you don't understand the phrasing of rule 7: 2D and 'unrealistic' depictions are generally looked upon more favorably.

simply means that if the character concerned by an eventual Rule 7 ban examination is both at the same time in 2D drawn AND "not human" (like an elf, a dwarf, a fungus, a slime creature) the moderators MAY probably let it pass.
(but if they don't want to let it pass, they CAN ban it)

Faster translation of Rule 7: Anything that may be considered close to C.Pornography (according to most countries legal systems) will get banned.
TC.

Again, this is just YOUR opinion. It doesn't matter how you clarify that rule to me. You're the same as me. An average user who doesn't know how it's used. You can only assume. The only way we will know is if the rule receives more clarification from the staff.
But that's irrelevant now. Like I said, I won't argue with mods. Perhaps it's best we just stopped this discussion here. I would like to not give the mods a reason to delete this thread. That way other people who are curious about the disappearance of the games can learn the reason here and stop making more threads. Though maybe I expect too much from the average F95 users.

 

[Hentai_Kishi]

The loli/shota shit shouldn't be tolerated at all in the website it's disgusting, disturbing, and it can create big legal problems for the website.

Getting bothered by drawings I see, why don't you try to help REAL children in danger? Although I understand the part where the website can't take any chances of getting in trouble with the law, it's a really shitty thing to think a character is equivalent to a real child in the real world and therefore it's "disgusting/disturbing", I could say the same thing about the rape tag or blackmail tag.

I can understand Mother Lessons but other games like Queen and Goblin , You can also double check Adelaide Inn , There is no shota in that game , in fact most men in that game are Ogre, Goblin, Elves, and Old men , Knights and a married couple who runs the Inn, Why remove that too ? It seems like they personally hate this NTRMAN guy just because they aren't in favor of that fetish

In both Queen and Goblin and Adelaide there is this same noble boy who appears. Although this character clearly states multiple times that he is an adult I guess it wasn't enough since he is kind of small, just find it weird that people ban stuff like that but not gnome/dwarf/goblins which are also small and perhaps "childlike".

Just think it's a shame a couple of finished games got banned from here. They had tasteful art and having multiple finished games under your name is more than a lot of developers can claim.

 

[Archaon11111]

Hi,

Rule 7 + potential crypto miner = deleted to protect the innocent users of this site from potentially harmful content.

- there now you know. Happier?

There was never any crypto mining that was just the retarded assessment users went with, the game was simply not optimised well like 90% of unity games here so it took a lot of GPU but that was fixed in the dev's updates and I scanned it myself and it had zero malicious content.

 

[GinOokami]

Welp, sad that the new game is also included in the ban. Although, the supposed underaged children do drink booze in-game (not secretly drinking, but encouraged). I guess small body kinda means underage...most of the time.

 

[Obscure]

Welp, sad that the new game is also included in the ban. Although, the supposed underaged children do drink booze in-game (not secretly drinking, but encouraged). I guess small body kinda means underage...most of the time.

Yer mum was always allowed to get you drunk. It was always her right.

Getting your friend drunk at the same time is kind of a misbehavior. And the mom in the camping game was acting as though offering the beer was her misbehaving.

 

[redknight00]

In both Queen and Goblin and Adelaide there is this same noble boy who appears.

I found none while checking the CG rip, but I'll take your word for it and check again more thoroughly this time.

 

[Hentai_Kishi]

I found none while checking the CG rip, but I'll take your word for it and check again more thoroughly this time.

If I'm not mistaken, the character(noble) says that he is an adult in one of the in-game dialogues in Adelaide Inn, I don't think you will be able to see that if you go just by the CG.

 

[DavidMR]

hi
would anyone share mega link of the new update game form ntrman?

 

[zawzaw]

man... fucking keepshare is the only available alternative.

 

[Kame-Sennin]

I found none while checking the CG rip, but I'll take your word for it and check again more thoroughly this time.

I assure you will find no shota rule there in both game so please consider to restore both threads as it doesn't violate any F95 rules .

 

[Trickstar]

I always find it hilarious how fictional loli and shota is a problem meanwhile there are tons of rape, torture, gore, bestiality and incest games on this site. Nothing like grandstanding morality on a pirate site. As long as it's not real cp or drawings made to represent a real child that exists in real life, then it should be fine.

 

[Vreek]

I always find it hilarious how fictional loli and shota is a problem meanwhile there are tons of rape, torture, gore, bestiality and incest games on this site. Nothing like grandstanding morality on a pirate site. As long as it's not real cp or drawings made to represent a real child that exists in real life, then it should be fine.

I understand it is about keeping the site out of the focus of authorities and also out of the focus of actual pedophiles from the deep web and stuff. I do not want the see F95 going away. I bet mods and staff are fighting a lot of battles behind the scenes (not with each other though ) to ensure site survivability.

 

[Trickstar]

I understand it is about keeping the site out of the focus of authorities and also out of the focus of actual pedophiles from the deep web and stuff. I do not want the see F95 going away. I bet mods and stuff are fighting a lot of battles behind the scenes to ensure site survivability.

I feel like site survival is the only good argument people can make about this in my opinion as with the way hypocritical politicians are it could become a problem. As for actual pedos, they have mental problems already and if having fictional drawings to sate their desires prevents them from going out and harming actual children then so be it.

 

[VegitoHlove]

Getting bothered by drawings I see, why don't you try to help REAL children in danger? Although I understand the part where the website can't take any chances of getting in trouble with the law, it's a really shitty thing to think a character is equivalent to a real child in the real world and therefore it's "disgusting/disturbing", I could say the same thing about the rape tag or blackmail tag.

Yes! Thank you. It always gets me how people have this convenient moral high ground yet somehow other things that is also horrible IRL like rape/blackmail/bestiality etc. is a-ok

The same arguments could be used in non-sex games when discussing the possibility of children being in then like GTA. Hell games of old did have it, Like Fallout 1 & 2 or Baluder's Gate (Don't know if the enhanced edition took out child NPCs) and such and you could totally kill them, should all those games be banned? Are they evil? because if so then get ready to ban way more video games with other evil shit like murder and theft etc.

Evil is evil and if your going to go parade on a hill for fictional loli/shota then you should for the other stuff. Otherwise as far as I'm concerned it's disingenuous and hypocritical to make oneself look good.

 

[desmosome]

Real talk then. If NTRMAN shota is questionable, what makes Bones Tales, Insexual Awakening, Urban Demons, Town of Passion, and MANY other games ok?

 

[VegitoHlove]

Real talk then. If NTRMAN shota is questionable, what makes Bones Tales, Insexual Awakening, Urban Demons, Town of Passion, and MANY other games ok?

Quite the mind-boggling conundrum, isn't it? I have said before, but personally I think it's due to differing opinions as what is an exemption by staff in general so they have a for lack of better explanation a "Compromise". Of course they mention things like "laying low" or whatever.

 

[desmosome]

Quite the mind-boggling conundrum, isn't it? I have said before, but personally I think it's due to differing opinions as what is an exemption by staff in general so they have a for lack of better explanation a "Compromise". Of course they mention things like "laying low" or whatever.

Bones Tales and Town of Passion were even on the featured games list at some point lol. Quite the interesting situation.

edit: Sorry Bones Tales dev, I have nothing against your game. This is for science.

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This kid has a sprite of a little boy. At least the Camping with mom thing by NTRMAN had a sprite of a teenager. The second pic for relative size is not any better than the H scenes in the NTRMAN game.

 

[jamdan]

Bones Tales and Town of Passion were even on the featured games list at some point lol. Quite the interesting situation.

edit: Sorry Bones Tales dev, I have nothing against your game. This is for science.

This kid has a sprite of a little boy. At least the Camping with mom thing by NTRMAN had a sprite of a teenager. The second pic for relative size is not any better than the H scenes in the NTRMAN game.

Personally, I don't think that character looks that young. He is short, but looks like the typical teenager in the face. 2D and drawn art are generally looked upon more favorable too. Rule 7 stuff is mostly about 3D art.

Theoretically, you would could make a very young looking 3D girl and give her some pubic hair and it would be permissible. The hair is a sign of puberty, which would make her legal under Rule 7.

 

[BigJoeHanson]

The loli/shota shit shouldn't be tolerated at all in the website it's disgusting, disturbing, and it can create big legal problems for the website.

Say what you want my dude, people who say that tend to have 0 problems with gratuitous violence, rape, drug abuse, sadism, torture. So much shit flies in these places yet we chose to draw lines in the strangest of places in the animated world. I'm not justifying it, just pointing out the hypocrisy.