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Nopy is dead :(

Asia Argento

Asia Argento

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Adabelitoo said:
Fuck, I hoped OP would be some random dude complaning about a link being down

RIP. Now everytime I release an update for my game is gonna be so fucking sad...
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Devs are gonna have to switch to Google Drive---
 
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wallywally55

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Maybe actually donate next time? Nopy was the best. If they were making enough for it to be worth their while to solve the payment provider problems they'd still be up. A $6k server bill and they can't figure it out? There wasn't enough support (likely) or they were absolutely garbage with budgeting (also possible). These things don't operate in perpetuity for little / no reward.
 
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wallywally55 said:
Maybe actually donate next time? Nopy was the best. If they were making enough for it to be worth their while to solve the payment provider problems they'd still be up. A $6k server bill and they can't figure it out? There wasn't enough support (likely) or they were absolutely garbage with budgeting (also possible). These things don't operate in perpetuity for little / no reward.
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I am not sure it was all the fact if they were or were not making enough to cover costs. A lot of payment processors have gotten on their moral high ground. A lot of places that host adult things have been having issues with them
 
Adabelitoo

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wallywally55 said:
Maybe actually donate next time? Nopy was the best. If they were making enough for it to be worth their while to solve the payment provider problems they'd still be up. A $6k server bill and they can't figure it out? There wasn't enough support (likely) or they were absolutely garbage with budgeting (also possible). These things don't operate in perpetuity for little / no reward.
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Next time, try reading before leaving a comment.
 
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Cross Zero

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To everyone saying they shoiuld have done this or that: They weren't targeted for anything but hosting fetish porn, that some of the current heads of the banks and payment processors consider whatever their retarded line of thinking is. It's the same that would've happened to patreon if they wouldn't have bent the knee to them. A lot of (more or less) sex workers have the same problem right now, in that banks (and paypal) try to make their existence unsustainable in their crazed moralizing power trip.

Frankly the only solution I see to this is either someone creating an alternative to the current banks/payment processors and simply allowing everything not straight up illegal, with as little moral arbitration as possible. Though, unless said moral arbitration is straight up illegalized there is simply no way to be sure.

The only other alternative to that is violence applied directly to these moral busybodies. Can't force your morals on people if your head ain't on your shoulders.
 
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moskyx said:
As for 1, I'm also curious what's the real reason behind this. Even the hated Paypal, Visa and Mastercard have a legal base when they do this to Patreon and our beloved game developers. A questionable one, but it exists - they can be prosecuted for financially helping illicit deeds. So what I wonder is what Mediafire and other hosting sites are doing differently to not being molested by this kind of 'arbitrary' decissions from payment processors. Maybe being a legally established company helps, after all?

As for 2, there's nothing wrong with that choice. But if that side project of yours go big (as it was the case) and you're not willing to act accordingly, just say it. There are objectively viable (and cheap, and fast) alternatives to solve this situation, it's just they don't want to use them. I can't really feel sad for you when you have the chance and you actively choose not to take it - in fact I'd be annoyed at you, especially if I think you were doing a great job, as in this case. There are quite a few developers in this forum who are earning a fraction of Nopy's money with this side job of theirs and yet they are legally established in their respective countries as professionals or LLC or whatever legal entity they need in order to be tax responsible and so on - even if lewd games are not their main income source. Nopy people have chosen to close business to not be bothered with this, and that's OK. I can respect and even understand that, but I also think they are the only responsibles for this, not victims of a Paypal's devious plan.
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You ever followed someone trying to fight paypal in court? That's a full time job that sucks money like no one's business. Payment processors have screwed with folks with far more pull and resources than Nopy and will continue to do so until the public stops buying the propaganda and demands they be regulated like the bank they have basically become. Sadly there are still enough folks out there that think this kind of censorship is OK as long as it's targeting the other guy.
 
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APSabot

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moskyx said:
Sure I don't know where are they from, but if $6k monthly bills are not enough money to justify a little entrepeneurial effort, I guess they are not from a third world shithole. They were paying +$6,000 monthly only in server costs, I doubt there would have had really serious problems getting a competent lawyer in whatever country they are located or would like to operate, for a small fraction of that amount. Plus creating a proper company wouldn't be a cost but an investment that would have allowed them to get even more income - of course, subject to legal scrutiny. They simply didn't want to make that step, and they have all the right to do so.
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Paypal's legal team, and the powers that be that ultimately back this kind of action will absoutely steamroll any lawyer you can buy for $6 k a month. You live in a world where sitting presidents are fair game to get banned while terrorists get a pass this ain't that simple.
 
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NoTraceOfLuck

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moskyx said:
4 years losing $1,000 monthly? Wow, that's an impressive commitment :ROFLMAO:. Come on, open your eyes. No one is running a charity hosting service on a loss for 4 years long, in their statement they say that without people's money they wouldn't have lasted more than 6 months. So let me stick to my assumption that they weren't losing money all this time; maybe they weren't getting rich either, I'll concede you that, but what they literally said on their note is that they can't keep paying servers because they can't receive their payouts, so I assume those payouts were more than enough to cover those costs. But my main point here is that they just didn't want to 'legalize' their situation in order to be able to find new ways of funding their service because they didn't want to go through all the scrutiny that comes along, that's all (and that's literally what they said in their note).

Considering what they have stated on that farewell announcement it was a borderline legal service, and they were finally hunted down once their income level crossed some supervision limit. This is just what happens when you want to play but don't observe the rules of the game. Anonimity is nice and all but there are reasons why legally established companies don't want to risk doing business with those people - where there's anonimity, there's no accountability, and where there's no accountability there are all kind of highly illegal business, and I'm not talking about incest games. Any payment processor out there will ask them to put some control to the content hosted, plus there's also that little thing called taxes and so on.

So I do believe they were doing OK on the financial side of things (at least they were covering their monthly expenses) but they just didn't want to go through all that hassle and as I said in other post I can understand that. All I'm saying is that there are viable alternatives to get the funds you need if you really want to keep the business running - of course that would have meant changing some aspects of that business, and that's why I understand their choice to not to do so and just close it down. I'll miss them as much as everybody else, but I don't think they'll ever come back unless they finally decide to go all pro, with all consequences. If they do, money won't be a problem -as it wasn't right now because they have all the support they needed.
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No, not 4 years losing 1000 monthly. A year ago, their expenses were only $2500/mo. A year before that, it was <$1000.
 
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TugaCel

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Another good site burned thanks to puritan retards...
Sad world we live in when watching Porn is ban worthy but images of violence, blood and gore are accepted and promoted...
 
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1Ficher is also a pretty good site and has very high download speed, i downloaded from it many times but the bad thing is that you need pay if you want to download more than once otherwise you need to wait a day (or half a day, i don't know exactly).
I find it more superior than Mega because Mega has a limit of 5GB memory files while on 1Ficher you can download even files bigger than 10GB, i don't even think 1Ficher has a download limit
Also you can bypass that time limit of downloading if you simply change your IP, then you are free to download again.
 
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