Collection Video Nick Cockman Collection [2024-01-12] [Nick Cockman]

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Motordeath

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Does anyone have any idea after this episode of "porn academy" what will come next?

Seriously I hope it's Unfrozen part 2
 

Eustie

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Just removing people who pledged money to the Patreon quietly and swiftly, Probably 50 or so people.
Typical behaviour : I do it everyday myself. Every time someone wants to give me money or tries to show respect to me, I can't help but tell him/her to get lost. Makes sense.
 

Pronto2283

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Typical behaviour : I do it everyday myself. Every time someone wants to give me money or tries to show respect to me, I can't help but tell him/her to get lost. Makes sense.
That's not really what it is, he removes them and keeps the money without having to fork over his content.
 

Eustie

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Hello, Pronto2283, and thank you for elaborating some more on that topic you raised.

However, have you had such a first-hand experience yourself, or is it just hear-say (a questionable thing, hear-says...) ?

As far as I know, not only does NickCockman charge his patrons ONLY when releasing a new content (so that subscribing doesn't cost one penny to his Patreon pledgers as long as no new stuff has been released, and then they are only charged for this particular new stuff), but he grants access to his past works for all his subscribers (for a given level of pledge, of course) completely free of charge.

Besides, on his Patreon, the files are there to download for ANYONE having pledged, so there is no matter of him retaining anything from a specific patron while getting away with the money.

On the other hand, what I've been able to witness myself is :

- people bullying NickCockman into releasing new contents faster. How is he supposed to react to such demands as 'When ? WHEN ?? WHEN ??? Gimme ! GIMME !! GIMME !!!' (I have fortunately not witnessed so crude a demand, but that's the gist of it nonetheless), sometimes once a day. There is such a thing as proper behaviour : but, IMHO, this kind of instance doesn't fit the bill. NickCockman isn't a dog, a butler, or a salary-man : he is a gifted, hard-working, freelance artist, who spends his free-time slaving on his computer, creating animations which all of us will enjoy, while most of us dedicate our own free-time to our own selfish designs. So the least his subscribers can do is show him respect.

- people criticizing his work while providing nothing to the community themselves and, worse, while abstaining themselves from elaborating on why they're unsatisfied and what would make things better (apart from getting instantly high-quality stuff daily and for free, with all the trimmings on top)

- people (f...rs IMHO...) deliberately trying to harm him (thus harming the whole community, by undermining NickCockman's will to continue creating and having him wasting the limited time at his disposal into solving the mess he has been exposed to) by libelling him, leaking his work sometimes the very same day it is released or having his content banned from Mega (thus directly harming all his subscribers, meaning all the good-will people trying to do their part by pledging money and a little recognition, through posts, for the quality of his work).

Have a nice Sunday, in any event, and thanks for considering the issue with fairness.
 

Motordeath

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Nov 16, 2019
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Hello, Pronto2283, and thank you for elaborating some more on that topic you raised.

However, have you had such a first-hand experience yourself, or is it just hear-say (a questionable thing, hear-says...) ?

As far as I know, not only does NickCockman charge his patrons ONLY when releasing a new content (so that subscribing doesn't cost one penny to his Patreon pledgers as long as no new stuff has been released, and then they are only charged for this particular new stuff), but he grants access to his past works for all his subscribers (for a given level of pledge, of course) completely free of charge.

Besides, on his Patreon, the files are there to download for ANYONE having pledged, so there is no matter of him retaining anything from a specific patron while getting away with the money.

On the other hand, what I've been able to witness myself is :

- people bullying NickCockman into releasing new contents faster. How is he supposed to react to such demands as 'When ? WHEN ?? WHEN ??? Gimme ! GIMME !! GIMME !!!' (I have fortunately not witnessed so crude a demand, but that's the gist of it nonetheless), sometimes once a day. There is such a thing as proper behaviour : but, IMHO, this kind of instance doesn't fit the bill. NickCockman isn't a dog, a butler, or a salary-man : he is a gifted, hard-working, freelance artist, who spends his free-time slaving on his computer, creating animations which all of us will enjoy, while most of us dedicate our own free-time to our own selfish designs. So the least his subscribers can do is show him respect.

- people criticizing his work while providing nothing to the community themselves and, worse, while abstaining themselves from elaborating on why they're unsatisfied and what would make things better (apart from getting instantly high-quality stuff daily and for free, with all the trimmings on top)

- people (f...rs IMHO...) deliberately trying to harm him (thus harming the whole community, by undermining NickCockman's will to continue creating and having him wasting the limited time at his disposal into solving the mess he has been exposed to) by libelling him, leaking his work sometimes the very same day it is released or having his content banned from Mega (thus directly harming all his subscribers, meaning all the good-will people trying to do their part by pledging money and a little recognition, through posts, for the quality of his work).

Have a nice Sunday, in any event, and thanks for considering the issue with fairness.
For a moment I thought you were saying all of us and it seemed strange to me because I didn't insult anyone.
 

Redsheep6

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Mar 4, 2023
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Hello, Pronto2283, and thank you for elaborating some more on that topic you raised.

However, have you had such a first-hand experience yourself, or is it just hear-say (a questionable thing, hear-says...) ?

As far as I know, not only does NickCockman charge his patrons ONLY when releasing a new content (so that subscribing doesn't cost one penny to his Patreon pledgers as long as no new stuff has been released, and then they are only charged for this particular new stuff), but he grants access to his past works for all his subscribers (for a given level of pledge, of course) completely free of charge.

Besides, on his Patreon, the files are there to download for ANYONE having pledged, so there is no matter of him retaining anything from a specific patron while getting away with the money.

On the other hand, what I've been able to witness myself is :

- people bullying NickCockman into releasing new contents faster. How is he supposed to react to such demands as 'When ? WHEN ?? WHEN ??? Gimme ! GIMME !! GIMME !!!' (I have fortunately not witnessed so crude a demand, but that's the gist of it nonetheless), sometimes once a day. There is such a thing as proper behaviour : but, IMHO, this kind of instance doesn't fit the bill. NickCockman isn't a dog, a butler, or a salary-man : he is a gifted, hard-working, freelance artist, who spends his free-time slaving on his computer, creating animations which all of us will enjoy, while most of us dedicate our own free-time to our own selfish designs. So the least his subscribers can do is show him respect.

- people criticizing his work while providing nothing to the community themselves and, worse, while abstaining themselves from elaborating on why they're unsatisfied and what would make things better (apart from getting instantly high-quality stuff daily and for free, with all the trimmings on top)

- people (f...rs IMHO...) deliberately trying to harm him (thus harming the whole community, by undermining NickCockman's will to continue creating and having him wasting the limited time at his disposal into solving the mess he has been exposed to) by libelling him, leaking his work sometimes the very same day it is released or having his content banned from Mega (thus directly harming all his subscribers, meaning all the good-will people trying to do their part by pledging money and a little recognition, through posts, for the quality of his work).

Have a nice Sunday, in any event, and thanks for considering the issue with fairness.
small remark to your last point, people leaking his stuff day one is bad, but at the same time I'm sad that he has completely walled of his content so that you can only see the videos if you are a patreon, since he doesn't post them on his NM anymore
 

cbomb

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Hello, Pronto2283, and thank you for elaborating some more on that topic you raised.

However, have you had such a first-hand experience yourself, or is it just hear-say (a questionable thing, hear-says...) ?

As far as I know, not only does NickCockman charge his patrons ONLY when releasing a new content (so that subscribing doesn't cost one penny to his Patreon pledgers as long as no new stuff has been released, and then they are only charged for this particular new stuff), but he grants access to his past works for all his subscribers (for a given level of pledge, of course) completely free of charge.

Besides, on his Patreon, the files are there to download for ANYONE having pledged, so there is no matter of him retaining anything from a specific patron while getting away with the money.

On the other hand, what I've been able to witness myself is :

- people bullying NickCockman into releasing new contents faster. How is he supposed to react to such demands as 'When ? WHEN ?? WHEN ??? Gimme ! GIMME !! GIMME !!!' (I have fortunately not witnessed so crude a demand, but that's the gist of it nonetheless), sometimes once a day. There is such a thing as proper behaviour : but, IMHO, this kind of instance doesn't fit the bill. NickCockman isn't a dog, a butler, or a salary-man : he is a gifted, hard-working, freelance artist, who spends his free-time slaving on his computer, creating animations which all of us will enjoy, while most of us dedicate our own free-time to our own selfish designs. So the least his subscribers can do is show him respect.

- people criticizing his work while providing nothing to the community themselves and, worse, while abstaining themselves from elaborating on why they're unsatisfied and what would make things better (apart from getting instantly high-quality stuff daily and for free, with all the trimmings on top)

- people (f...rs IMHO...) deliberately trying to harm him (thus harming the whole community, by undermining NickCockman's will to continue creating and having him wasting the limited time at his disposal into solving the mess he has been exposed to) by libelling him, leaking his work sometimes the very same day it is released or having his content banned from Mega (thus directly harming all his subscribers, meaning all the good-will people trying to do their part by pledging money and a little recognition, through posts, for the quality of his work).

Have a nice Sunday, in any event, and thanks for considering the issue with fairness.
Well said! Agree with everything said here and appreciate your insight.
 
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Eustie

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small remark to your last point, people leaking his stuff day one is bad, but at the same time I'm sad that he has completely walled of his content so that you can only see the videos if you are a patreon, since he doesn't post them on his NM anymore
Hello, Redsheep6, and thank you for your message.

Indeed, there is a difference between

posting quite old stuff, where there is no real harm done (even though that's not completely 'by the book', since the stuff is NickCockman's and NickCockman's only to decide whether it is released), the more so if these are works not avalaible even on Patreon anymore,

and posting them with so short a time since their release that some may find it pointless to pledge on his Patreon with APPARENTLY no real gain from having to contribute financially (even though, in fact, there is a WORLD of a difference between pledging on Patreon to the benefit of NickCockman and getting his work through other channels : this is the difference between him having an incentive, both financial and moral, to pursue his efforts into producing new, more refined, enjoyable content and, on the other hand, having him throwing the towel because he finds that it's not worth the effort to put so much time into something that gets so little recognition).

And that's where we reach your other point, Redsheep6 : NickCockman stopping his NM releases. He had no obligation to release his work freely on NM in the first place. I am not 'in his head', but I think it's a safe bet to consider that his releasing on NM served several purposes : to have him more widely known so as to get more pledges on Patreon, to get more useful and heartening feedbacks from fans, to deter them from downloading his works elsewhere thus providing illegitimate ad revenues to leakers... These are possible reasons that come to my mind, but, once again, I'm not him so I can't say for sure these were his motives for releasing on NM, beside the fact that there were probably more of them, even if less decisive.

Anyway, the implicit incentive for him was to get at least moral support from downloaders on NM.

But, if you read some of the posts and witness the 'thumbs down' counter on NM, you'll notice good guys (fortunately) doing their part, but 'not so good ones' being more than unkind to him, particularly when he experienced his burn-out.

That's why I'm sad (if not angry) when I read cheap criticism (confining to libel) regarding NickCockman from people neither contributing morally nor financially to his efforts. They DO bring harm not only to NickCockman but to his fans as well. For instance, when the links on 'Mega' were made dead 'thanks' to one particular a...h... (probably thinking himself very witty by thus doing), not only did NickCockman waste time on replacing them with an alternative service, but it meant all the former 'Mega' links pledgers on Patreon had gotten so far, so as get extra contents, were dead as well. And I believe it's not necessary to highlight the fact that not only was such a deed morally unjustifiable but it was stupid as well since it meant less time spent by NickCockman on producing new content, not mentionning the effect on his motivation to do so when unfairly subjected to such a dirty trick. 'Stupid' because harming NickCockman when you enjoy (or, at least, benefit from) his work is just like shooting yourself in a foot (after randomly shooting on unknown passers-by).

I wouldn't be here, on F95Zone, wouldn't I appreciate getting a free access to various works. This way, I am able to discover new talents and when it's so, I more than happily give them the little support I can by pledging to their Patreon or purchasing their work wherever it's legitimally put for sale, hoping we are numerous enough to act likewise so as to have the author pursuing his efforts.

So I'm not here preaching. But I'm revolted when witnessing someone trying to dig a hole in the bottom of the vessel on which we're all sailing...

And, of course, I don't mean you, Redsheep6 : on the contrary, I thank you for giving me this opportunity to discuss this relevant issue of NM, which is the point of a forum, and I wish you a nice week-end.
 
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