VN - Ren'Py - Abandoned - Love and Submission [v0.08] [veqvil]

[Review for version 0.05]

Having just completed v0.05, all I could think was "Wow!". This is a superb game so far with tons of potential.

The most notable elements are clearly the character designs and renders. They are amongst the most lovely characters I've seen in a 3D adult game. The faces are absolutely amazing. And, thankfully, the male characters, including the MC, received attention as well.

The dialog is generally excellent. The pacing is a little hurried at the start (I feel you make progress with certain characters a bit faster than seems reasonable). The story does a good job of giving you reason to accept this, but it still seemed a little fast.

The story is very intriguing. I'm really quite interested in all the presented mysteries and hope they are revealed bit by bit and hope to be kept in suspense until late in the game on some.

As of this version, there isn't much of an open world feel, but I get the feeling it's going to open up more in the future. I will enjoy that, if so.

I only have two additional complaints. The grammar is a bit rough at times, enough so to slightly damage immersion. In some cases it's a case of incorrect word selection although the intended word was clear enough. And, ugh, your/you're mix-ups are not uncommon. Additionally, the tendency of the author to use tweaks of their name (veqvil) in place of fictitious proper nouns, while charming enough (and yes, I loved the horror movie), also damaged immersion slightly. But that's a quibble.

Oh and Aedin is a laugh, love that guy.

All in all, this is probably the project I'm most excited about in this genre.

As of version 5 this game is a 5 and it is one of the few games that is this far along with not that much sex heck don't think it has any sex yet but still gets a 5 star for the story and characters. Now if this game has bad sex scenes in the future it may go down to a 3 star.

Art 9/10
Characters 10/10
Story 10/10
Sex 0/10 no sex yet

If you scroll down, most people like this game, but I think they're insane.

The game is too complex with a boring story and not enough sex scenes. I stopped playing when you first reach the hospital, at that point the game was too boring & complicated to continue. You have to highlight the mouse over everything and there is no direction in the game. The tasks are boring and tedious. The game is so poorly designed that you have to have a walk through open because it's nearly unplayable.

The render quality is excellent and the models look great, but the dev spent too much time making non-pornographic images. The story is incoherent.

I'm literally at a point in the game where I have no idea what to do. I think the game actually expects me to just visit every room and highlight the mouse over everything. Fuck that, lol.

I've bumped the rating from 1 stars to 2 stars because the render quality is great. The character models are some of the best I've seen, very sexy, but not sexy enough to motivate me to click every item in every room just to figure out how to continue the story.

I found the mechanics too tedious, it's just not worth it to highlight the mouse over every item in every room just to advance the story. There's like tons of room and tons of buildings, it would take forever to advance the story. I'd rather just grind a little in a way similar to Big Brother or The Tyrant.

While the game isn't as developed yet, it has great depth to it, a great amount of likable, diverse and well rendered characters and an interesting story. If I had to point anything out it'd be that at some point it doesn't feel like a game (where in these type of games you just choose) and more like a comic/movie, if you want to push a story forward you have to read a walkthrough, and playing is more about unlocking stuff moreso than making your own story, an example for this is: (from what i've seen) if you ever want to have something with mom, in the first choice of the game you have to compliment her and then kiss her, if you don't do that there's nothing you can do to resume that path (yet anyways), and to me, that feels like shit, but then again, a lot of games do that and that's alright, I just prefer more "sandbox" style games

Best charactor design in F95zone and good story line, have many paths to choose and many possibility as well. Worth to play again and again and again to collect all paths in the game. Just the moment game still not complete but it has love way to go and I am looking forward to play the complete version of this epic game.

Love the game and story
Hot mom and sister
Cool concept to choose between love or submission
Hot neighbors..makes me really wish i was the main character so can have as much fun as he does in the game
Still early i the game and i keep bumping into the death scene of the sister, but am sure once i get past this things will become clearer in the end
Hope to see more updates, more story developments, expanded target pool and choices

Good sense of mystery without diving headlong into a grinding sexfest. giving you a start to know and actually care about the characters and the story behind them. A solid start with gorgeous artwork and animations.

perfect renders, nice quests, good story. I love this game. There is so much to discover. Sometimes hard to find, but I like that. I can't wait to see next parts of the story. The cliffhangers are mean but they make me just more excited.

Review for 0.5

Graphics/Scenes:
Love the images so far. Everything looks great. Gorgeos woman, no messed up facial expressions or anything, in my opinion definatly one of the top looking games out here.

The scenes range from romantic and alluring to downright sexy and hot. Love it so far.

For those who might think it has "not enough scenes/images for a porn game" (read that in the comment section) I have to disagree on that one. For me there are two sorts of games for our particular "fancy", the ones that focus on sex with some story on the side and the other way around where the focus is just as strong or even stronger on the story part and the images/scenes are there to spice things up (My favorite example for that is DMD). No judgement here on either one, I enjoy both variations. I simply want to state that one has to think about what type of game it is before judging on those things.

That beeing said, this game is more story based but also has the perfect amount of "special" content to keep things interesting. Enough to not leave one unsatisfied but not so much that everything suddenly feels rushed. I enjoy it very much so far.

The few animations currently in there are well done as well.

Story:
The story so far is great. Enough 'basic' and familiar content to start things off and keep them going but also already some nudging and hinting towards very promising developments. Some more clear than others but all are very interesting to follow up on.

The characters are great so far as well. I like pretty much everyone so far and those I don't like I'm convinced I'm not supposed to like in the first place. I especially took a liking to the Aiden character. Can't say why exactly, I just like the guy^^.

Mechanics:
Here is a part that introduces something new even if not fleshed out yet. At least for me those mechanics are new. If someone knows other games that do stuff like this pm me and let me know please
Well, back to business. I like that you can try different routes for each character. In addition the whole "specialization" thing gives a high replay value.

The long and short of it:
Ok this was my longest review so far I think. To sum up, I really enjoy the game. Haven't found a single thing to complain about so far. I wanted to complain A LOT after how version 0.4 ended but that was just because of the way it hit me. I hope I kept everything vague enough, don't want to spoil anything for anyone.

I Love this game. The story offers something new from the standard family incest games. There are some mystery background for the family and surroundings. The girls looks nice and attractive. Also some path choices. Great work!

Imma Ninja!!!!
Well...I stalk this forum since a long time, without participating in anyway.
I've tried many game from here, as a stalker, appreciating some of them.
I'm aware that, as a stalker, not participating to everything, I'm totally useless.
That was befooooooore!
Before I ran to this game! Godamn Veq, you're the first to force me to make an appearance, you're the first to force me to create a patreon account, I hate you!

I've been watching this game for quite some time because I really like the concept of the game. At first I was going to become a Patreon almost instantly but held off, and each update since there is always something bugging me about the game that makes me question it. So here is my review of version 0.05 of the game Love and Submission.

Story 4/5 -> Story is good but a bit confusing at the moment. Alot of loose ends, like why does Mira need to marry the MC one second but get pregnant by someone else the next? What's with all the eye color changes and how does a woman have a dick and a vagina in a world that seems just like ours? The story seems to be able to happen in our current world but still has some weird confusing elements like these. I guess later updates might answer some questions, but since the game has progressed so far in throwing out more questions rather than answers, I'm beginning to doubt it.

Dialog choices 3/5 -> One thing to mention first. I love how the dialogs are being handled here. You can see how each option has an effect later in the game and I love it. So what is dragging this down? All the hidden items. For example, there is a notebook under a piece of furniture that it can barely be seen. There are keys under a book that you might miss simply because if you find the book to early, you will not get the keys. This is starting its turn to be more of a puzzle game rather than an actual choice based system. And that is where the game is loosing me, along with all the back and forth grinding part to get stuff done (like going to the hospital, just to realize you need to learn how to massage, find the massage oil etc. Bottom line, if you need a walk-through to find all the pieces to move the story forward, I'm not a big fan of it.

Sexual Content+spelling 4/5 -> The spelling is good enough to fool me since I am not a native English speaker. The actual sexual content is not that much of. There's a few stripping teases here and there and dream scenes that make up for it at this early stage. I'm being generous only because it's still early release in version number sense, even though it has been a work in progress for 6 months. But I get it, the dev has real life issues to deal with as well.

Domination/bdsm 4/5 -> The domination part of this game is great so far. The only problem I have here is that it only has 2 people you can actually dominate to some sort, sis and Becky, and even then it's not that far delved into yet. It does not help that one of them is only a side character so far (Becky). There are hints around that you can dominate the mother in later updates as the story progresses, but so far you will need to go the love route for her to get some actual content. There is no bdsm so far in the game but domination/corruption can cover that in the future if done well.

Pregnancy 0/5 -> You cannot get anyone pregnant at the moment, so no points to give here..... yet.

Overall this means that I give this game 15 points out of 25, resulting in 60% or 4 stars. However, I'm being generous in some areas and with this update (0.05) I really fear for the development of this game since more puzzles are being implemented each update and more characters/events that disrupt the game keep happening. Hopefully I will be proven wrong though. Also, all the cliff hangers in the end of the updates? Not a fan.

My star rating system:
0-20% -> 1 star
20-40% -> 2 star
40-60% -> 3 star
60-80% -> 4 star
80-100% -> 5 star

OMG! This game is so exciting. It's not just any porn game. Good characters. Amy is so beautifulI. I was tired of giganticboobs of every female in other games. and I feel there's a mystery in this game I want to solve. Waiting for more of this will be painful for me.
One thing I find unrealistic, mom looks more like Amy's sister. She should look at more mature, she's over 40yo does she?

Reminds me a lot of Dreams of Desire but with more characters.
The characters have more than three states each have its own dialogue throughout the games. The 3 skill choices also offers different ways of branching the stories I hope the developer will give more characterizations and interesting interactions between the characters. I also hope that there will be more ways to interact with JJ's sister
The game is still in early phase give it some love and support I believe it will become something great.

High quality renders, and an actual diverse story line including many different characters and paths to influence them. Doesn't seem like it was written by an amateur just looking to chain together porn CG's with no thought to story or buildup.

This game is awesome. It has realy great and believable charakters. The renders are top notch and the gameplay fits in perfect. At this point (v0.04), the intruduction of the story is neraly finished and I think big things are waiting for us.

Played this game today (v0.4). Really like it, one of my new favorites already: the different models are all great, the writing is superb and the characters actually have something of a personality of their own instead of just being a doll to play with or pair of trousers to be filled up by the player(and I do mean that both ways Didn't run into any bugs which is something a lot of other devs should take notice of.
There is also so much choice in dialog per girl/women that I do hope it does not turn out to be a too ambitious project to handle all of that down the line, when all those branches have to get tied back together. I get a headache thinking about all the variables already...or that just might be my lack of fluids.

This is just pure goodie.

Although this is quite an early version (0.04), it has quite a good amount of content compared to some other games in this stage.
And the game complexity, the diversity of the content, the paths based on the quite high amount of decision, it's something that rarely can be found... Very nice.

The renders are very nice. Or even I can say one of the best I seen. I know i'm too into details but we need new blood-render in the game, that was the one small fault for me.
But other than that it's very impressive. Especially the sister's and Becky's model.

In this early it's not the best talking about the story, but still, one of the few games where I actually waiting to find out what's happening. What will both the bad guy and the neighbour's story will "give" to us.

Hopefully, the future version will bring us even more goodies, and hopefully some good quality animations too (I missed those in the game). Plus I would like to hear some nice sound effect too!

All in all, up to the popular games with this!

Forget all your experience with Visual Novels around here. After you give this a try it will rewire your standards when it comes to those. Warning: This might (will) irreversibly spoil you as anything less (most of the visual novels out there) will leave a bad taste in your mouth.

Pros:
+Wonderful renders
+Unique characters
+Engaging story, i dare say, dramatic even (Seriously, how often you see this??)
+Choices you take have serious impact (This is usually an empty boast with many games. Not here.)
+...which guarantees several replayability. Emphasis goes to several. Not just once.

Cons:
-Replayabilitly. Unless you save before each and every decisions, this can become a real grindfest. My personal opinion on the matter that this is a trade-off. Meaningful decisions comes with a price but the fact remains. For this reason, a single playthrough is rather short though.
-Lack of animations. (I never was one who missed them, i do love having them though. I confess i did only a casual playthrough but haven't encountered any.)

Great cgi's ,and finaly a good story. Scene with Becky in pizza place when i rejected her, hands down masterpiece.Never ever had a second thoughts on my choices like that ,till now... keep up the good work and this will be the best game in this genere. Sorry for my bad english xD