Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.9.9] [Innoxia]

[PussyPassAnon]

Nah. Inno said the comments were disabled, because they/them didn't want to deal with the negative feedback over the delays. They promised the comments section would be given back after a few days, a lie I immediately saw through and called out everywhere to the response of once again being told I'm imagining things, only to be right.

I don't care to argue about it, but I'm not about to let Inno's lying propagandists distort history in Inno's favor.
The irony that contradicts the defenses I've seen, is that Inno itself was one of the slur flingers in the comments section.
So don't try to frame it like everyone is just victimizing poor little Inno; Inno stirred the pot of the comments section many times, instead of spending the time working on the game.

 

[Lure of Chaos]

*swears* What have i said about fragile code? It just stopped working (Can't start a new game). Saying that Nashorn can't call getter function, although it is there. And i've changed no code so far. Good luck debugging for me.

I've made it, finally! It was my fault - restriction over the java module system.
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[Wolfdragon20]

Even story plot (leaving just the engine) but not so sure, as you all may like original story.

i can't speak for anyone else, but personally i don't care about inno's story the slightest bit. i play this game for the porn and character creation, not for the vague beginnings of a skeleton that the story is

 

[EmDotRand]

I've made it, finally! It was my fault - restriction over the java module system.
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> No linux version
Guess I'm building it myself again. About time I see what java21 looks like.

 

[Lure of Chaos]

> No linux version

will try WSL
don't rush it, there some bugs left

 

[FloatingMarsh]

will try WSL
don't rush it, there some bugs left

Lurker here, Do you plan on making a new/separate thread or any dedicated page for your mod/rework of the game?

 

[TheFreakyOne]

It's so over

 

[Lure of Chaos]

Lurker here, Do you plan on making a new/separate thread or any dedicated page for your mod/rework of the game?

will add README on github page

 

[Lure of Chaos]

don't rush it, there some bugs left

Just got to hack left and right buttons get to work, at least it's minimally playable now. That's all for today.
Tomorrow i'll be working on mods (make them loadable from data/mods, not just budled in res/mods archive, make sure they can interact as designed).
Please check regularly github page for further updates, i will not post announcements here anymore.

 

[Drakstar]

Even story plot (leaving just the engine) but not so sure, as you all may like original story.

i personally enjoyed the story or at least the bits i seen, if you do decide to add the story do it after most or all the basic systems are done though, wouldn't want it to get in the way of other more important to most ppl stuff. could throw in some fan mini story's though

 

[FloatingMarsh]

Just got to hack left and right buttons get to work, at least it's minimally playable now. That's all for today.
Tomorrow i'll be working on mods (make them loadable from data/mods, not just budled in res/mods archive, make sure they can interact as designed).
Please check regularly github page for further updates, i will not post announcements here anymore.

 

[EmDotRand]

will try WSL
don't rush it, there some bugs left

I didn't listen and I regret it. Somehow I missed that javafx got dropped from the official arch repo and compiling it from source nearly killed my computer. Thing has over 4000 C++ objects to compile and my processor tapped out about a quarter of the way through after several hours. Made me apologize to rustc for whining about it's speed. Then I found out there was a prebuilt bin and I got more pissed than a man with a bladder infection trying to have sex. That was before attempting to build and gradle throwing an error for modifying a immutable variable, specifically line 076. I could post an issue with a stack trace if you'd like.

 

[Lure of Chaos]

Somehow I missed that javafx got dropped from the official arch repo

Plugin `id("org.openjfx.javafxplugin")` should do the work as maven repo should have prebuilt binaries for win, linux & mac

That was before attempting to build and gradle throwing an error for modifying a immutable variable, specifically line 076

Ah, you've run into "property assignment" which was unsupported, i've made an update but you should use gradle wrapper version (8.6 for now)

Hmm, I really should test linux packaging.

 

[Molwirr]

I've made it, finally! It was my fault - restriction over the java module system.
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Any chance of making a non-installer version?

 

[Lure of Chaos]

Any chance of making a non-installer version?

Sure, `jpackage` folder contains this also, but there's additional files. I can upload zip archive though

 

[Sant3224]

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Sorry to ask, but what features does it have?

 

[Lure of Chaos]

Sorry to ask, but what features does it have?

I'd say it still is more buggy as not fully tested and there's mods use problem, but should have all content for Inno's 0.4.9 version - from the user perspective.
From the developer perspective: running java 21 (not the old 8) and is modularized (jpms), can be packaged as installer (no console window) and jlink-ed to not bundle all the jre. i have revorked to use java nio meaning to run fully in jar and not creating `data` folder (my version created it at user home directory, not along executable), but failed, as it being jpackaged cannot access files in jar in module (`jrt:`) I'm workin for now to load mods from archive and data folder (to just drop mods there and they could just work).
I'm planning to rewrite code fully (should reduce by amount), get rid of javafx and webview, and javascript, also both game and mods to rewrite using Kotlin (instead of both JS and XML).
As a result it should be (in the future) a lot(!) faster, smaller, less buggy, extensible (easily extensible) and fully customizable, but having all the features LT has now
(I suspect the dearest Innoxia has some trouble to continue developing not just because of personal issues, but with the whole game inner architecture) So I intervene here

 

[Lure of Chaos]

Sorry to ask, but what features does it have?

And, not sure about its content. The LT is greatly great, nor I suk in the drawing, so no plans for content for now.

 

[EmDotRand]

I'd say it still is more buggy as not fully tested and there's mods use problem, but should have all content for Inno's 0.4.9 version - from the user perspective.
From the developer perspective: running java 21 (not the old 8) and is modularized (jpms), can be packaged as installer (no console window) and jlink-ed to not bundle all the jre. i have revorked to use java nio meaning to run fully in jar and not creating `data` folder (my version created it at user home directory, not along executable), but failed, as it being jpackaged cannot access files in jar in module (`jrt:`) I'm workin for now to load mods from archive and data folder (to just drop mods there and they could just work).

In other words, Java finally got features that other platforms like C++ had for years.
I know you said this was buggy but hot damn.

1: Mousing over literally any button returns an null exception error. Seemingly harmless.
2: The context popups stay until another button is moused over or until anywhere else is clicked. This blocks some elements such as the personality options.
3: Using the keyboard did not update the screen until I clicked. Last instance when I tapped the /1/ key repeatedly the next screen my male character "Unknown" was being fingered by Alexandria. The main menu, inventory, phone, and my character profile were all unresponsive. Used escape to return to the main menu and start a new game.
4: The first turn of combat can fail to show the opponent's stats.
5: Got this funky screen when approaching the bank -

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I'm guessing that's due to all the non-hardcoded content being removed.
6: Got a similar error when meeting the shady dealer in the alleyway, confirming my suspicions.

And that's all after playing just past the prologue. Still, willing to wait a bit while more pertinent tasks are handled.

 

[Lure of Chaos]

In other words, Java finally got features that other platforms like C++ had for years.

So I plan to move to Kotlin but first I should compact all of this spaghetti code.
That's surely not easy when I'm not the original developer, and so i'm many places where the dearest Inno is making presupmtions try{}catch{Syste.err.prinltn} "oh, exception, lets pretend that nothing happened really" I just rethrow an exception so game may be unplayable now but now you can see why and I'll be expecting why. Again, with the original architecture, "if you've fixed that particular bug, please inspect 10 000 more similar places" is killing me.
Again why I'm moving to Kotlin is nullables - then i will have no presume that object anytime will be present - intentionally or not - and correct the game behaviour. Another plus is refactoring - in java i have no trick "we have no such method, but lets add a fake then refactor normally" - so i java i have to run thoroughly run all 1000 places to fix when in Kotlin i just write new fake extension function then make it "inline" refactor everywhere tp get desirable effect.
finally, i have here natural bulk functions instead of handmade java-streams - no 10000 rewrites either.
And the last: data is a code too (take a look on Gradle philosophy) so we don't need (no) JS engines, xml pasrsing and so on - just compile and run codable data.
That's my goal.