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Ren'Py Futa...Chicks with Dicks or Guys with Tits?

Xanado

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I have an idea for potentially having one in my game, but I think it would definitely be polarizing.

I tried to look up if it's real as my games are always contempary/au but realistic. So the idea behind it was that the character in question would've decided very young that they'd wanted to live as a girl, and started undergoing hormone therapy and estrogen replacements pre-puberty, but when it came to the day of finally getting their penis removed, they decided against it, due to fear of surgery and despite several planned operations it never happened, they always couldn't go through with it because of the fear. 20 years later, they've been taking hormone replacements ever since, voice never broke, no facial hair, natural breasts because of the estrogen, looks, talks, feels like a girl and everybody thinks they are a girl and they lived as one throughout their teenage years and adult life, but secretly they've got the wrong genitalia.

Are they male, or are they female or transgender female, shemale or futa? I still can't even decide myself
How about its your friend? And you are helping them go for the last step. Could be a great winggirl or maybe really grateful for the help. Lots of things you could do with that.
 
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I have an idea for potentially having one in my game, but I think it would definitely be polarizing.

I tried to look up if it's real as my games are always contempary/au but realistic. So the idea behind it was that the character in question would've decided very young that they'd wanted to live as a girl, and started undergoing hormone therapy and estrogen replacements pre-puberty, but when it came to the day of finally getting their penis removed, they decided against it, due to fear of surgery and despite several planned operations it never happened, they always couldn't go through with it because of the fear. 20 years later, they've been taking hormone replacements ever since, voice never broke, no facial hair, natural breasts because of the estrogen, looks, talks, feels like a girl and everybody thinks they are a girl and they lived as one throughout their teenage years and adult life, but secretly they've got the wrong genitalia.

Are they male, or are they female or transgender female, shemale or futa? I still can't even decide myself
Hmmm...ok, I'll jump on that grenade...lol...Futa is out-she doesn't meet the "criteria". She been living as a female for most of her life, so she identifies with being female. So I'd go with transgender female.
*NOTE* IRL-whatever she wants to call herself...lol

This is what I mean about having discussions like this and having devs get involved. I believe these discussions can enhance a game or story to its maximum potential. Thanks for the question.
 
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DawnCry

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I have an idea for potentially having one in my game, but I think it would definitely be polarizing.

I tried to look up if it's real as my games are always contempary/au but realistic. So the idea behind it was that the character in question would've decided very young that they'd wanted to live as a girl, and started undergoing hormone therapy and estrogen replacements pre-puberty, but when it came to the day of finally getting their penis removed, they decided against it, due to fear of surgery and despite several planned operations it never happened, they always couldn't go through with it because of the fear. 20 years later, they've been taking hormone replacements ever since, voice never broke, no facial hair, natural breasts because of the estrogen, looks, talks, feels like a girl and everybody thinks they are a girl and they lived as one throughout their teenage years and adult life, but secretly they've got the wrong genitalia.

Are they male, or are they female or transgender female, shemale or futa? I still can't even decide myself

I'm guessing fucking them in the arse would come under gay, but if it's a threesome with the MC and a girl, is that hotter than with another man?
It's honestly one of the most confusing topics I've come across
it's a trap!.

Theorically it would fall under trasgender if he* wanted to undergo surgery, but if you aren't willing to it's crossdressing and a good one.

So I would go with crossdressing or trap (we could even use the sissy word if he has a tiny penis). About it I don't know your game, but depending on the theme it would be well received or be a mistake.

My recommendation? ask the people that play it if they are fine with it and decide upon that, unless you feel it's a necessary part of the plot or something.

P.D: Will add my book of words to help a bit:

-Masculine and with penis: Male
-Masculine with vagina: Cuntboy
-Feminine with penis and no-tiny breasts: Trap
-Feminine with penis and big breasts: Shemale
-Feminine with breasts, penis and vagina: Futanari
-Feminine with breasts and vagina: Female
 
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I have an idea for potentially having one in my game, but I think it would definitely be polarizing.

I tried to look up if it's real as my games are always contempary/au but realistic. So the idea behind it was that the character in question would've decided very young that they'd wanted to live as a girl, and started undergoing hormone therapy and estrogen replacements pre-puberty, but when it came to the day of finally getting their penis removed, they decided against it, due to fear of surgery and despite several planned operations it never happened, they always couldn't go through with it because of the fear. 20 years later, they've been taking hormone replacements ever since, voice never broke, no facial hair, natural breasts because of the estrogen, looks, talks, feels like a girl and everybody thinks they are a girl and they lived as one throughout their teenage years and adult life, but secretly they've got the wrong genitalia.

Are they male, or are they female or transgender female, shemale or futa? I still can't even decide myself

I'm guessing fucking them in the arse would come under gay, but if it's a threesome with the MC and a girl, is that hotter than with another man?
It's honestly one of the most confusing topics I've come across
Your character would be transgender not futa and as they have always seen themselves as a girl would more likely prefer being on the receiving end.
 

Malkav

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I have gone down the rabbit hole. Started with enjoying the animated or 2d futanari, then I tried the futanaria or porn like and it worked for me too.
So one day I took the full step and decided to look up some shemale porn. Now If I had liked the shemale porn i would have continued, but I did not. Even the best looking shemales still have masculine features. It will be places where you don't expect it, but it is clearly there.
 

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Jumping in blind and responding to OP without reading thread yet, and prefeacing with that I don't really have strong opinions on Futa characters (a kink that doesn't do a ton for me, but is a fine 'occasional' thing), and Herto male. I will say for whatever reason, I see a LOT of futa pictures around, weather there's simply a MASSIVE demand for it in particular, or if it's seen more as having broader appeal (partiuclarly the VERY busy, VERY feminine futa with MASSIVE cocks).

It's fine as far as I'm concerned, but in hentai, it can get old (but so can traditional sex parings if that's all their is without mix ups and different stuff going on). Since mostly what I want in hentai (and porn, or even life in general) is not the same thing over and over. Which is one issue I have with Futa, is (which is an issue with every gender in hentai) they stray to a single body type very often.

Being hetro, I'm generally fine with any Futa on Female pairing, but am less interested in FutaxFuta, and MaleXFuta pairings, though I'm fairly open to new ideas, and REALLY killer art or games with those pairings may still at least get passing interest from me. Despite all that, I still think aka6 is one of my favorate artists, and that's like all they do, so there's something of a paradox there I suppose :p
 

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[...] started undergoing hormone therapy and estrogen replacements pre-puberty, [...]
There's no need for it to be pre-puberty. In fact, but I don't guaranty it, I more or less remember of a talk about this with a doctor, saying that it can in fact be a real problem to do the hormonal process before the end of the puberty. When a transgender (because your character is a transgender) pass through the hormonal therapy, (s)he live a second puberty. I assume that what the doctor was saying at this time was that it would have needed to double the dose, since at this time the organism was already boosting the hormonal production through the natural puberty process.

This said, for the surgery, it's not mandatory. Not all transgenders transition from their birth body to the body they should have had. And not all the ones that transition, go through the whole process. The main "visual factor" is in fact the boobs, that what people use to differential a girl and a boy, and so the body part that is the most usually removed/added (depending in the case, in yours it's "added", but not necessarily by surgery, the hormones can do a great job by themselves).
So, you can simply say that your character don't felt ready yet to be ride of his penis, or just ceased to feel a body dysphoria once she grew boobs. It happen.

But, there's a thing that happen in the majority of the case (but not always), it's the need to remove the sexual organs by themselves. I have few return coming from MtF (Male to Female) transgenders, but I heard way too many FtM ones talk about how it was really painful to keep their ovaries once the hormonal process really started to act. To over simplify it, ovaries and a really high level of testosterone aren't really compatible, and it's like the body tried to destroy this part that shouldn't exist. So, your character will probably want to get ride of her testicles, or discover what women live once by month, but for her it will be more often than this.
But, again, this is also not something mandatory. It seem to happen in the majority of the case, but not always, and some transgender live it better that other ; probably because the level of pain isn't itself a constancy and it's more bearable for some than for others.


Are they male, or are they female or transgender female, shemale or futa?
What you describe is a MtF transgender. But you can also explain the absence of body dysphoria by the fact that she discovered "dickgirls" by reading hentai, and felt that it is what she really is ; neither the boy she was born as, nor the girl she firstly thought she effectively was, but really a girl with a dick. So, while being technically a transgender, she can identify herself as dickgirl without problem.


I'm guessing fucking them in the arse would come under gay,
Not necessarily. She's a girl, and there's absolutely nothing gay for a girl to take it in the ass. It's her partner that need to be bisexual or pansexual (a gay wouldn't be appealed by the boobs and the girl looking body ; and will not support long enough the girl personality), for her it's a straight sexuality.
But if you plan to make her have sex also with girls, then she must be bisexual, but will probably define herself as pansexual. In fact, it can be this pansexuality that lead her to the dickgirl option. She always felt appealed by both male and female, and so felt it more natural to stay this way.


It's honestly one of the most confusing topics I've come across
Hope it helped you.
 

Ataios

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I like coffee hot, beer cold and women without penises. No homophobia, to each their own, but it's certainly not my cup of tea.

That said, I think, developers can increase their numbers greatly, by replacing futa penises with strapon dildos and giving player the option to choose on of the two. It would turn a futa scene into a lesbian strapon scene and make your game attractive to exactly those guys (and much rarer girls) who don't want dicks in their porn.
 

DawnCry

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I like coffee hot, beer cold and women without penises. No homophobia, to each their own, but it's certainly not my cup of tea.

That said, I think, developers can increase their numbers greatly, by replacing futa penises with strapon dildos and giving player the option to choose on of the two. It would turn a futa scene into a lesbian strapon scene and make your game attractive to exactly those guys (and much rarer girls) who don't want dicks in their porn.
Replacing a futa with that requires a lot of work, current games don't have enough resources to let players choose things like that.

Even more I have to say that trying to "work things out" don't appeal to anyone. As most things it's have or not have.
 

Ataios

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Replacing a futa with that requires a lot of work, current games don't have enough resources to let players choose things like that.

Even more I have to say that trying to "work things out" don't appeal to anyone. As most things it's have or not have.
Wouldn't it just require changing the color, so it doesn't fit the character's skin color any more? I'm certainly no expert on this, but changing a piece of meat into a piece of plastic doesn't sound so difficult.
 

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Wouldn't it just require changing the color, so it doesn't fit the character's skin color any more? I'm certainly no expert on this, but changing a piece of meat into a piece of plastic doesn't sound so difficult.
Normally it's quite a lot harder than that, you'd have to incorporate the straps being that hardest part, else you'd notice where it joined and this is normally quite a significant area of the crotch, not just the penis itself. If they're using Futaliscious you'd also have the problem of the vagina being far too far back as it'd normally be more where the dick is, and if you just retextured the penis you'd give them a plastic vagina as well. The only way I can see a change being done would be to render it once with a dick, then spot render it retextured to plastic, and then maybe add straps in photoshop?

Otherwise a more practical way would be you'd need to render the scene twice, once with a strap on, once with a dick, and you'd have problems of the dick and the strap on not being the same size, meaning you'd have to make posing adjustments with the vagina or whatever they had the penis in each time. It would turn a say 20 render scene into a 40 render scene with adjustments between the two sets, and that over the course of a game will add up to hundreds of different renders. At that point the developer would probably think is the appeal for strap-on sex instead of futa bigger than the appeal of another hundred or so renders in the game, and the majority of players would probably prefer the time was spent on extra renders.
 
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In my opinion:

Futa = a person who's fully female but with a (huge) dick. Fantasy, doesn't exist, like centaurs and unicorns. No objections if they are in a magic / fantasy game, but that's it.

Hermafrodite = a real person who has primary and secondary sexual characteristics from both sexes, in various ways. Some may have a functioning penis and vagina but some may have an underdeveloped penis or vagina which are not suitable for sex. I don't know any hermafrodite personally but I can imagine it's pretty difficult for them growing up. And if their sexual organs don't work properly it's pretty hard in adulthood as well.

MtF Transgender / "Shemale" = a real person who was born as a male but decided to become a female. I do know some of those IRL and they are really interesting people generally, who have made a fundamental decision in their life (which is something a lot of people never do!) although they do struggle with it, even if they say they don't. From a story point of view I really like this kind of struggling, (although IRL it's not fun at all) and I would actually really like to see a game about a guy who actively decides to transform into a woman. I don't think it exists so far...

Sissy = a male who is coerced into becoming more feminine / female. This is actually more of dominance theme then it is about gender identity as the sissy is not in control.

And finally, is any of this gay? Who cares... Maybe it'll make some guys get over their fear of cocks which are not their own. ;) But in my opinion a gay man is attracted to the male form, and not in particular to the penis. All the above have a female form but with a penis. So a hetero man can be attracted to them although they may be repulsed by the penis. From the other perspective, if someone self-identifies as female and is attracted to males, then that's straight... If they are attracted to females, it's lesbian. Although real FF lesbians may object...
 

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Personally, I've always seen futas being girls with guy genitalia. I'm not someone who's super into futa or gay content at all, but ever since I first say anime and my cousin discovered this and got me into doujins of various kinds, I've always seen futas only as chicks with dicks.

Then again, by the time I think these kinds of deep questions through, I've already watched through whatever hentai it is that has futa, so I tend not to ask these deep questions when I'm fapping, so...yea.
 

Niteowl

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Definitely chicks with extra dicks.....
Not one of my favorite kinks but fun occasionally imo.....
 

Armonie

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Thank you for this post,
Developing a game with a futa / hermaphrodite main character, this post allowed me to know more about the community's opinion on this topic.
Personally I'm heterosexual and if I became a woman (like normal, it's magic) I would like to keep my three-piece service in addition to the rest and become Poison (Street fighter / Final Fight) or Reika Kitami (Bible Black).
As I read here, I know some lesbians who would like to have both sexes or have a relationship with a girl who owns them.
So for me the Futanari has no masculine features or musculature and even less hair on the chest.
It's a woman with a pussy and a cock.


In my opinion:
Futa = a person who's fully female but with a (huge) dick. Fantasy, doesn't exist, like centaurs and unicorns. No objections if they are in a magic / fantasy game, but that's it.
Completely agree !

PS : Futanari (二 形) is a Japanese word traditionally used to refer to a hermaphrodite person.

After there is another question to ask, futanari with testicles or giant clitoris only?
 
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it's a trap!.

Theorically it would fall under trasgender if he* wanted to undergo surgery, but if you aren't willing to it's crossdressing and a good one.

So I would go with crossdressing or trap (we could even use the sissy word if he has a tiny penis). About it I don't know your game, but depending on the theme it would be well received or be a mistake.

My recommendation? ask the people that play it if they are fine with it and decide upon that, unless you feel it's a necessary part of the plot or something.

P.D: Will add my book of words to help a bit:

-Masculine and with penis: Male
-Masculine with vagina: Cuntboy
-Feminine with penis and no-tiny breasts: Trap
-Feminine with penis and big breasts: Shemale
-Feminine with breasts, penis and vagina: Futanari
-Feminine with breasts and vagina: Female
-Feminine with breasts, penis and vagina: Hermapfrodite not Futanary (use toys)