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Succubus Hunter

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The game fills my entire disk to 100%. Suspicious.
Are you talking using up the RAM?

The art is beautiful and the gameplay is competent enough. Too bad the plot seems like it came straight out of an incel's wet dream.
More like a "Sigma male"'s wet dream. Notice how Jack actually works out, has self disipline and is (Generally) a good person. An Incel's ideal game would be a r*pe game where the oppressed gamer neet gains super powers and gets to take revenge on the world and make the girl of their dreams be with them... Oh wait, that would basically be Megamind the game with Tighten as the MC.
 

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Are you talking using up the RAM?


More like a "Sigma male"'s wet dream. Notice how Jack actually works out, has self disipline and is (Generally) a good person. An Incel's ideal game would be a r*pe game where the oppressed gamer neet gains super powers and gets to take revenge on the world and make the girl of their dreams be with them... Oh wait, that would basically be Megamind the game with Tighten as the MC.
"Sigma male" is in itself a masculinist (and thus, incel-esque at the very least) concept, but we don't even have to go there. If you think a misogynist (he's established as a woman hater right in the intro) who "punishes" his opponents by raping them can in any way be called a good person, I don't know what to tell you.
 
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Good people don't punch down on incels, either.
Are you talking about "incels" as the term was originally coined, as in, people who are involuntarily celibate (fun fact: the term's creator was a woman) or about people who identify as part of the incel subculture, which is another thing entirely (and the subject of the discussion at hand)?
 

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Are you talking about "incels" as the term was originally coined (people who are involuntarily celibate - fun fact: the term's creator was a woman) or about people who identify as part of the incel subculture, which is another thing entirely?
Both. Try to exercise empathy on what leads a person to even identify as part of the subculture and you may grasp my point. Scapegoating people in such pitiable and vulnerable positions as these men is sociopathic and wrong, and an ounce of empathy would do wonders to reduce any radicalization found in such circles.
 

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Both. Try to exercise empathy on what leads a person to even identify as part of the subculture and you may grasp my point. Scapegoating people in such pitiable and vulnerable positions as these men is sociopathic and wrong, and an ounce of empathy would do wonders to reduce any radicalization found in such circles.
Frankly? Speaking of empathy on behalf of people who are involutarily celibate is valid and commendable. Those people definitely need help if they're unhappy with their lives, and it was with this purpose that the term's creator tried to build a community (and she made good use of that community, too, eventually finding herself and ceasing to be involutarily celibate).

The incel subculture is something else entirely; these are just misogynists who childishly blame half of the population for their own failures and feel like they're owed sex (and that's without taking about the racism, the misanthropy and, you know, the mass shootings perpetrated by some of its members). You could argue this is a public health issue that shows current society is not properly equipped to nip this kind of thing in the bud, but talking about empathy for the poor radicals in a context in which someone is calling out a game for openly catering to their toxic worldview makes no sense. In fact, if you truly care about reducing radicalization, saying something akin to "Oh, those poor dudes" in response to criticism to something that feeds into that radicalization is rather contradictory.

In any case, we should probably stop derailing this thread, since we're no longer discussing the game.
 
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In any case, we should probably stop derailing this thread, since we're no longer discussing the game.
I'm getting there.

In western society (I'm not sure how accurate any of this is for china), men have lower life expectancy, have worse access to health care, receive less assistance at all levels of education, receive worse marks for identical work in education, are incarcerated at higher rates, are charged with longer sentences, are the overwhelming majority demographic of homelessness, are the overwhelming majority demographic of suicides, are the overwhelming majority demographic of incarcerations, are trafficked at higher rates, are the majority victims of violence, and are the majority victims of homicide. All of this data is easily found and point to blatant systemic issues targeting men.

People want something to blame and it's easy to blame the group who's not suffering. Everyone's suffering to a degree. 50% of marriages don't last a year and another 50% don't last five. Loneliness has steadily been rising for fifty years.

Incels are misguided in their blame, but a person doesn't start calling themselves one because they're bursting with self esteem. These are the men who handled all this abuse and neglect the worst. They're resentful and bitter, but it's not without direct cause. When a group is created from systemic abuse and neglect, fear of radical and violent retaliation isn't completely misplaced, but it's insipidly stupid to demonize this group rather than show them empathy. If you listen to them and replace the word "sex" with "love," you'll pretty clearly hear what it is they actually want.

Is the idea that people are owed love a radical one?

Now, I absolutely need to point out that the resentful bullshit that the incel subculture spews needs to be called out because there's a different sociopolitical movement that's been presenting the same level of sexism without being called out. "Teach men not to rape" is every bit as sexist as the shit incels say. #KillAllMen, low hanging and commonly used, is just the perfect microcosm of how politically okay it is to hate men. That it doesn't illicite the same response that #KillAllWomen does and would is such a clear demonstration of this social cancer.

No incel has ruined nearly as many lives as, say, Ellen Pence and her duluth model concerning domestic violence. Feminism is responsible for all sorts of direct oppression from policies that hide male victims of rape by changing definitions to creation of college campus kangaroo courts to the encouragement of preferences in the legal system. They're quite responsible for a lot of the problems that create incels, in fact. This is a cycle of abuse. These feminist bigots are in positions of great power but how often do they get called out? How often are feminists made the punching bag? It's not like with incels. It's hard to punch up.

I applaud games like this that actually target people in positions of power who have enacted policies and laws that harm people and use their political and social power to leverage silence on their critics. It's just a comedic little porn game, but it's nice seeing feminism portrayed as something bad for once. That hateful ideology has hurt so many people in real life. Hate breeds hate, and the way to break that cycle of abuse is not to heap further abuse on the victims. Punch up - not down, and give everyone empathy.
 

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Sorry, but this post is absolutely deranged. Ellen Pence has ruined more lives than incels? Feminist bigots in positions of power? Feminism is a hateful ideology? Have you ever read a single feminist treatise? Or have you just seem a few random Andrea Dworkin/TERF quotes and assumed that was the whole movement?

Not sure where you live, so maybe things are this weird in your area (doubtful), but your comments regarding the legal system would immediately flag you as someone who has never stepped into a court of law in any of the places I'm familiar with.

Also, do you seriously believe a stupid game that says "women bad, let's rape'em" is actually targeting people in positions of power? Sorry, but you've fallen into a deep, dark rabbit hole (which also explains why you're so eager to defend the incel subculture) and I don't have the time or the skills to pull you out of it, and even if I did, I wouldn't be able to do it in a forum for pirating porn games (and we'd be derailing the thread further). This might require professional therapy, I'm afraid.

In any case, I wish you luck.
 
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"Sigma male" is in itself a masculinist (and thus, incel-esque at the very least) concept, but we don't even have to go there. If you think a misogynist (he's established as a woman hater right in the intro) who "punishes" his opponents by raping them can in any way be called a good person, I don't know what to tell you.
That is why I said "For the most part". That could be solved by adding a few lines of dialogue allowing sex moves during the match. Not to mention that would open the door to the girls giving some sexy punishment as well <3
 
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"Sigma male" is in itself a masculinist (and thus, incel-esque at the very least) concept, but we don't even have to go there. If you think a misogynist (he's established as a woman hater right in the intro) who "punishes" his opponents by raping them can in any way be called a good person, I don't know what to tell you.
eh parasites are worthless either way. how can anyone have any pity for hypocrite parasites that only leech from society? there is nothing more vile than the parasites that feel entitled to society resources just because it exist yet the moment society demand it to contribute for the resources it cry victimhood.
 
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