Female Protag Corruption games and what is wrong with them.

[DarthSeduction]

But what if the person's fetish IS to fuck a 'dumb bimbo' or get a 'dumb bimbo' fucked? What if they want nothing more than a 'dumb bimbo' who has seemingly no brains, born into a world who only wants to do everything in their power to fuck her and she lets them? Doesn't that mean that these devs are serving exactly what their customers demands? And before you tell me people don't want it, the fact that this thread is made says enough that there ARE people who demands such 'writing' in such porn games. Sometimes people just DON'T want that kind of plausibility.

Look, I am all for having better stories in porn games. Elena Story makes me sick to the stomach within 10 minutes of gameplay and I never want to play a game like that ever again. However, as I've already said during my very first post in this thread,

"In the end, please remember that this is porn game we're talking about. If a writer successfully makes a game sexy, fun and realistic then kudos to them, but most of us just want to see our forbidden fantasies realized in dream world. If realism - or at least the current world's brand of realism - are to be realized, most of those stuff would never even make it past the planning stage."

I already answered this.

This world is completely implausible. Now, here's the thing. If the girl in question were the Daughter from DMD, I wouldn't be here. The daughter from DMD is exactly that fucking stupid. She skews as being about 10 years old mentally. And she has always done so. At no point has D ever made me think she was capable of handling herself. Now, let's talk about a way to make this genre work. The Born Sexy Yesterday trope. You may recognise this one from such popular titles as The 5th Element, or Tron Legacy, or Weird Science. In these films the female love interest is born a fully functioning adult, without the sexual maturity of her form. In these films it would be simple in most cases (maybe not Leeloo) to do all the things you do in your favorite corruption game to her. And she wouldn't be implausible. It's exactly what you need, she's innocent, she's abused, and she doesn't fight back because she doesn't know she should. She's confused and doesn't ask for it, she's getting taken advantage of, she's being corrupted.

The problem isn't wanting a dumb bimbo, its that the characters are presented as if they aren't. Anna seems to be quite the little computer geek, as well as a quick study at everything she tries, from making coffee, to serving drinks at a bar, to her very quick learning curve as an assistant. Yet for some inexplicable reason when faced with the weakest blackmail imaginable, she just takes it, rather than going to the police. Shit, I'd go so far as to accuse the motherfucking Weinstein trope of a boss she has of fabricating the evidence in the first place it was so convenient. That would be a really cool story, you and your friend getting his ass fired for embezzling when it was actually her all along. All because he was dumb enough to try and blackmail you like that on your first fucking day. Hell, the fucking receptionist would even probably be a willing character witness if you paid her, or fucked her.

Same goes for Katie, of Katie's corruption. She's a fucking medical student who aced her test at becoming a secretary for this guy, but couldn't see how he'd obviously own her and continue to force her into sexual situations with that contract? I commend the writer for making it possible to resist as much as he did, but then he also made us stupid when it came to our father, and even moreso when it came to communicating with our boyfriend. More, he took our agency away for his "corruption" system.

I couldn't even play that far in Elena's life, because the blackmail she was acquiescing to made no fucking sense. Seriously? We are supposed to believe that a father of an unruly teenager is going to take the word of said teen over the word of the adult woman he's in love with? Because as a step-son to a horrible bitch I would have loved for a father that willing to listen to me, and unlike this shit head, I was a good student and a well behaved kid.

I'm not saying you can't have a bimbo assault game. I'm saying it has to be plausible.

 

[IhaveNoPornAndIMustFap]

But what if the person's fetish IS to fuck a 'dumb bimbo' or get a 'dumb bimbo' fucked?

Because the "dumb bimbo" isn't dumb. No, the "dumb bimbo" is pretty much a genius when it comes to sex and getting laid. Look, animals manage to get laid, it doesn't require some alien uberbrain. It does require understanding of social conventions and the mechanics of attraction, and bimbos - dressed to titillate, understand this perfectly. Bimbos also know that talking about politics or quantum mechanics doesn't get anyone hot and bothered, so she shuts down such conversations with a crafty "tee-hee I dun understand anything bout such things", feigning ignorance or stupidity. The bimbo knows what guys wants and likes giving (and receiving) that and actively engineers situations where such things can happen. There's plenty of girls who like to be used in that way, even like to be abused, have sexual fantasies about being blackmailed into doing disgusting things and raped and get off of it. And these don't have to go for overt bimbo signaling (clothes, lewd speak) you can have the mousy librarian type who invites the shady, dangerous looking guy to stay past closing time in the library (alone with her) in the hopes he'll force herself upon her and bend her over the nearest table. But that's not what the character trope is about. It's about supposedly adult girls who act like they're flipping 9 years old and their knowledge of human sexuality is limited to "boys pee standing up and girls don't", while all the men around them are abusive Weinstein tier characters.

Now if you wanna fuck 9 year olds in a porn game, or watch them get raped by a bunch of Weinsteins, I honestly don't give a shit, it's a legitimate fetish. But don't give me adult women, or even teenagers that operate on that level. That shit offends the fuck out of me, it insults my intelligence.

 

[The-real-Vastitas]

Coceter Chronicles

I am not really into fantasy settings but for the freedom of game-play you describe I might give this one a shot, so thanks for that.

because you go from one mundane repetitive task to another feeling like work.

The only game using repetitive elements in a ( at least to me) non-frustrating way is second happiness as their is progression within the repetition which sets it apart from the daily grind for nothing but in-game money or other stuff a save editor can help with...a sandbox style game should always give the vibe that you are moving forward with a character or the story itself other forms of repetition are just a way to prolong a game in lazy and frustrating fashion.

 

[DarthSeduction]

I am not really into fantasy settings but for the freedom of game-play you describe I might give this one a shot, so thanks for that.

The only game using repetitive elements in a ( at least to me) non-frustrating way is second happiness as their is progression within the repetition which sets it apart from the daily grind for nothing but in-game money or other stuff a save editor can help with...a sandbox style game should always give the vibe that you are moving forward with a character or the story itself other forms of repetition are just a way to prolong a game in lazy and frustrating fashion.

There is light repetition in View of Family, and I'm willing to put up with it, but that's because it is generally light, (pretty sure the author follows the rule of 3) and it has good writing to go with it. Plus Mia, the little sister is probably my favorite 3D model in any game... Though the love I have for Courtney in Coceter Chronicles might trump that a bit.

One thing that might help you a bit, is while there is a fantasy setting and magic and fae creatures, it melds with the modern human world. A good half of the game thus far takes place in our world. (The half with Courtney... though she's a futa, so you might not care...) So yeah, while it's a High Fantasy game, it does have a lot of modern elements and pretty good writing. You can in its settings turn off the points tracking system too, allowing you to do any action regardless of whether or not you have the points for it.

 

[Gozer]

Female Protag Corruption games and what is wrong with them.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is whats wrong with it.

 

[DarthSeduction]

Female Protag Corruption games and what is wrong with them.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is whats wrong with it.

My top 2 games are both female protagonists... argument invalid

 

[Ignazzio]

When it comes to Coceter Chronicles it has great 1 chapter with plethora of choices but after that it's really straightforward when it comes to corruption. Illusional choices makes you slutify MC without real alternatives and virginity she talked so much in 1 chapter doesn't exist anymore as she doesn't mention it anymore to speed up and simplify whole process. Most inconsistent and therefore dissapointing game with female protag I've seen sadly.
When it comes to whole genre I guess that's the nature of corruption that all games are similiar. Females are surrounded by sexual predators while males are sexual predators. Only game that's a bit different I've seen is GGGB as it's written by woman and so it's much more natural. It has different issues but at least it's not so obviously sexualized as man tend to do with their games. But I like well made corruption games and I wouldn't make it an issue if their quality is high enough

 

[DarthSeduction]

When it comes to Coceter Chronicles it has great 1 chapter with plethora of choices but after that it's really straightforward when it comes to corruption. Illusional choices makes you slutify MC without real alternatives and virginity she talked so much in 1 chapter doesn't exist anymore as she doesn't mention it anymore to speed up and simplify whole process. Most inconsistent and therefore dissapointing game with female protag I've seen sadly.
When it comes to whole genre I guess that's the nature of corruption that all games are similiar. Females are surrounded by sexual predators while males are sexual predators. Only game that's a bit different I've seen is GGGB as it's written by woman and so it's much more natural. It has different issues but at least it's not so obviously sexualized as man tend to do with their games. But I like well made corruption games and I wouldn't make it an issue if their quality is high enough

I didn't notice the virginity problem... plus there were two opportunities to lose that virginity in the first chapter. I'm also pretty sure there was a greyed out option on the first chance you have to fuck courtney that since I'd lost my virginity once to the prince and once to the other alcurian, I couldn't use. Also, as you learn if you fuck the prince, or if you masturbate in the bath, she'd technically lost her virginity to her tail a long time ago. That virginity was only there in the sense that she'd never had a penis inside her. Seriously, were you keeping her virtue for some reason?

I also don't think that Coceter places her in a world where she's surrounded by sexual predators. There's the rape scene by the lake before she's on earth, and that's it for rape until the roofie scene on earth, which she's able to avoid by calling out for the bartender as soon as she feels odd. Moreover, I don't think there's another rape at all. Are there guys who just wanna use her for sex? Sure, but that's reality.

What I like most about the game is that at no point other than those two instances is she presented with a choice she can't refuse. Even with the demon, she can make Courtney do the work if she isn't willing. She doesn't have to go to Pandora and use the glory holes, that's a choice she can make. She doesn't have to wear a bikini and hand out fliers, that's a choice she can make. She doesn't have to do nudity in the photoshoots, that's a choice she can make.

Every other corruption game makes the character do these acts for some reason. They make them reluctant but allow them to get worn down by the men who aim to abuse them. With Coceter it gives Tabitha the reigns. Does she wanna fuck the prince? Then she does. Does she wanna masturbate for the photographer? Then she does. Does she want to give the guy a blowjob for an ID? Then she does.

There's always a nonsexual option. She always has the ability to resist. At every point she is given the option to engage or not.

She is obviously written by a man. However she's written by a man that took the time to write her plausibly. Yes she's a little slutty, but she's a tainted. She has demon blood that makes her hormones fucking insane. Honestly, I don't know that Eva would write Tabitha any differently given the premise.

 

[Jakky]

Lack of creativity is the main reason.

• The easiest way to make money is to "milk."

• Incest is the most common theme nowadays. Writers take ideas from other games and copy/paste shit.

P. S: @darthseduction I hope your game's original or distinct beacuse I believe in you.

 

[DarthSeduction]

Lack of creativity is the main reason.

• The easiest way to make money is to "milk."

• Incest is the most common theme nowadays. Writers take ideas from other games and copy/paste shit.

That's not entirely a bad thing. MotH is kinda a pile of Dog shit. No matter how much I like Faerin as a person. However, View of Family, which follows the same patterns and has been around for a similarly small amount of time, uses the exact same tropes for both the little sister and the mom in the game. Mom is convinced by a psychologist, and Sister is corrupted through study sessions. The game is great. I said above, Mia is my favorite model in any game.

Similarly, Parental Love is using the same format as DmD, but the game is actually written well. And if I'm honest, while the daughters aren't exactly the same. They are strikingly similar to D from DmD.

Also, I'd change your quoted word from "milk" to "edge" because if they were milking us we'd at least be cumming instead of getting blue balls.

 

[Ignazzio]

I didn't notice the virginity problem... plus there were two opportunities to lose that virginity in the first chapter. I'm also pretty sure there was a greyed out option on the first chance you have to fuck courtney that since I'd lost my virginity once to the prince and once to the other alcurian, I couldn't use. Also, as you learn if you fuck the prince, or if you masturbate in the bath, she'd technically lost her virginity to her tail a long time ago. That virginity was only there in the sense that she'd never had a penis inside her. Seriously, were you keeping her virtue for some reason?

I also don't think that Coceter places her in a world where she's surrounded by sexual predators. There's the rape scene by the lake before she's on earth, and that's it for rape until the roofie scene on earth, which she's able to avoid by calling out for the bartender as soon as she feels odd. Moreover, I don't think there's another rape at all. Are there guys who just wanna use her for sex? Sure, but that's reality.

What I like most about the game is that at no point other than those two instances is she presented with a choice she can't refuse. Even with the demon, she can make Courtney do the work if she isn't willing. She doesn't have to go to Pandora and use the glory holes, that's a choice she can make. She doesn't have to wear a bikini and hand out fliers, that's a choice she can make. She doesn't have to do nudity in the photoshoots, that's a choice she can make.

Every other corruption game makes the character do these acts for some reason. They make them reluctant but allow them to get worn down by the men who aim to abuse them. With Coceter it gives Tabitha the reigns. Does she wanna fuck the prince? Then she does. Does she wanna masturbate for the photographer? Then she does. Does she want to give the guy a blowjob for an ID? Then she does.

There's always a nonsexual option. She always has the ability to resist. At every point she is given the option to engage or not.

She is obviously written by a man. However she's written by a man that took the time to write her plausibly. Yes she's a little slutty, but she's a tainted. She has demon blood that makes her hormones fucking insane. Honestly, I don't know that Eva would write Tabitha any differently given the premise.

I admit virgins do it for me but it doesn't matter in this case. It's pretty common thing to remove virginity mechanic midway of development as it's bothersome for developer (Zoey Temptation is another example). I just highly dislike implementation of anything in such incompetent way. To make it reasonable she should be forced at the end of the 1 chapter somehow cuz at second chapter it doesn't make sense. Sure, she doesn't have hymen and all but whole 1 chapter she talked about her virginity and at the 2 she won't say a thing but go straight for it. It's contrimmersive and simply lazy. I seriously can't find a logical way to defend this element as dropped elements are always design's flaw regardless of their value. As for other elements it's really hard to say anything about real choice when I skipped to the 3 ch. picking all puire options and first thing you see is being fucked by futa. Tabitha is just meant to be a slut in a rather linear fashion.
As for predators I didn't say it with CC in mind tho it fits as well. Rape isn't the only thing predators do. More or less every important male in game with female MC is after her. That's like a general rule and even GGGB use it. With male protag it's reversed and every female is a prey. Even if male is small, dumb and ugly he always have upperhand and will always win. Females have more choices but usually they're illusional. Not always but just usually. In perfect situation female MC can avoid any potential sexual interaction (as she can pick her partner, she has to be able to refuse any of them) and react according to it but it requires a lot of additional work for devs.

 

[DarthSeduction]

I admit virgins do it for me but it doesn't matter in this case. It's pretty common thing to remove virginity mechanic midway of development as it's bothersome for developer (Zoey Temptation is another example). I just highly dislike implementation of anything in such incompetent way. To make it reasonable she should be forced at the end of the 1 chapter somehow cuz at second chapter it doesn't make sense. Sure, she doesn't have hymen and all but whole 1 chapter she talked about her virginity and at the 2 she won't say a thing but go straight for it. It's contrimmersive and simply lazy. I seriously can't find a logical way to defend this element as dropped elements are always design's flaw regardless of their value.

Again, I can't support this argument. I literally just had to replay this game this morning because the save didn't work with the update. And yes, in chapter 2 when you decide to lick courtney's cock in the morning there is an option to make a comment about your virginity. By the time you're given the opportunity to have sex with courtney, you can't have enough sluttiness points to have had sex with either of the two men who are optional priot to this if you hadn't had sex with either the Alcurian or the Prince in chapter 1. As I said, on my first three playthroughs I didn't have the points to do that and I did have sex with one or both of them, as well as the tainted, and the princess, and the captain of the guard. So the inconsistency you're complaining about doesn't exist. Maybe it did in an early version of the game that he hadn't fleshed out yet, but it doesn't now.

That last part is definitely plausible, there are encounters with Aurora and her family that seem to be blocked at this point in the develpment because he's not finished with them. Hell before this update, there was an error where whether you chose

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This was obviously a mistake that has been patched. You're very critical of a game that's still in development for having a few small narrative bugs, when overall its one of the better written fantasy stories I've ever played.

As for predators I didn't say it with CC in mind tho it fits as well. Rape isn't the only thing predators do. More or less every important male in game with female MC is after her. That's like a general rule and even GGGB use it. With male protag it's reversed and every female is a prey. Even if male is small, dumb and ugly he always have upperhand and will always win. Females have more choices but usually they're illusional. Not always but just usually. In perfect situation female MC can avoid any potential sexual interaction (as she can pick her partner, she has to be able to refuse any of them) and react according to it but it requires a lot of additional work for devs.

But, I haven't seen any of these predators. Again, I played it over this morning. Steve is a jerk, but all you have to do is jam your foot into his crotch and he gives you what you want. Gavin is willing to let you suck him off for a discount, but have you seen Tabitha? Name the man who wouldn't be. The Photographer is absolutely attempting to get her to do things on camera, but again he's not forcing you and you have the option to say no. Caleb attempts to force you into sex, but like I said, you can make Courtney do it.

Also, I don't know how you got yourself forced into fucking Courtney, she's optional at every point, hell, you don't even have to let her sleep in the bed with you. I'm actually gonna try now, just because my curiousity is piqued to see if I can play the game and stay faithful to Lilly. It'll be hard because I've fallen for courtney, but I want to know.

 

[Ignazzio]

Again, I can't support this argument. I literally just had to replay this game this morning because the save didn't work with the update. And yes, in chapter 2 when you decide to lick courtney's cock in the morning there is an option to make a comment about your virginity. By the time you're given the opportunity to have sex with courtney, you can't have enough sluttiness points to have had sex with either of the two men who are optional priot to this if you hadn't had sex with either the Alcurian or the Prince in chapter 1. As I said, on my first three playthroughs I didn't have the points to do that and I did have sex with one or both of them, as well as the tainted, and the princess, and the captain of the guard. So the inconsistency you're complaining about doesn't exist. Maybe it did in an early version of the game that he hadn't fleshed out yet, but it doesn't now.

That last part is definitely plausible, there are encounters with Aurora and her family that seem to be blocked at this point in the develpment because he's not finished with them. Hell before this update, there was an error where whether you chose

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This was obviously a mistake that has been patched. You're very critical of a game that's still in development for having a few small narrative bugs, when overall its one of the better written fantasy stories I've ever played.

It might be it wasn't flashed out properly when I played it as I played it quite some time ago indeed. But I honestly doubt it's still consistent in all points. Last time I've played there was nothing when she fucked fake ID guy nor in a behind the club scene. For me even 1 lacking scene means something is inconsistent. As for the second part I honestly used chapter skip option and picked every pure option possible. I ended in a house flirting with futa where they've asked me to go to the bathroom for an unavoidable scene with futa (no virginity mentioned as well). I will give this game a try at some point but I'm honestly burned by it at this point.

But, I haven't seen any of these predators. Again, I played it over this morning. Steve is a jerk, but all you have to do is jam your foot into his crotch and he gives you what you want. Gavin is willing to let you suck him off for a discount, but have you seen Tabitha? Name the man who wouldn't be. The Photographer is absolutely attempting to get her to do things on camera, but again he's not forcing you and you have the option to say no. Caleb attempts to force you into sex, but like I said, you can make Courtney do it.

Also, I don't know how you got yourself forced into fucking Courtney, she's optional at every point, hell, you don't even have to let her sleep in the bed with you. I'm actually gonna try now, just because my curiousity is piqued to see if I can play the game and stay faithful to Lilly. It'll be hard because I've fallen for courtney, but I want to know.

What I meant is that every man in such game is a sexual object lusting after MC while with male protag's games it's reversed. It's not a complaint by any means. I think it's just a genre defining thing

 

[DarthSeduction]

It might be it wasn't flashed out properly when I played it as I played it quite some time ago indeed. But I honestly doubt it's still consistent in all points. Last time I've played there was nothing when she fucked fake ID guy nor in a behind the club scene. For me even 1 lacking scene means something is inconsistent. As for the second part I honestly used chapter skip option and picked every pure option possible. I ended in a house flirting with futa where they've asked me to go to the bathroom for an unavoidable scene with futa (no virginity mentioned as well). I will give this game a try at some point but I'm honestly burned by it at this point.

What I meant is that every man in such game is a sexual object lusting after MC while with male protag's games it's reversed. It's not a complaint by any means. I think it's just a genre defining thing

I'll actually make a disagreeement here in that Tabitha is actually just as much a willing participant in the sex. In fact one thing I really like that the dev has done is at every point Tabitha has to decide what she thinks about a new experience. For instance, the scene in chapter one where you find the chef's boy masturbating, you can choose to touch the cum, choose to taste the cum, and then decide whether you like it or not. You can say it's disgusting. When you meet the prince on that night, you can actually decide whether or not the cock in her face turns her on or off. Whether she's doing this as a duty or because she's actually aroused. Even if you choose to have sex with him, you can have her wonder why she's doing it at all.

As for the scene where you go into the bathroom to talk to Courtney, actually that can be completely avoided... or at least her cock hidden, because its possible to turn off all tg/futa content in the game. I think that conversation happens regardless, but its established that she's able to hide her cock with the glamour, so I assume that's what the dev does. However, no sex happens in that bathroom. You go to her room to get a nightie on, then she follows soon after to get dressed for bed and offers to take the couch. You have to actually invite her into the bed with you. Then in the morning you have the choice of touching her or not. Still, I really like the game, so I'm gonna do the virtuous test run.

 

[Ignazzio]

I'll actually make a disagreeement here in that Tabitha is actually just as much a willing participant in the sex. In fact one thing I really like that the dev has done is at every point Tabitha has to decide what she thinks about a new experience. For instance, the scene in chapter one where you find the chef's boy masturbating, you can choose to touch the cum, choose to taste the cum, and then decide whether you like it or not. You can say it's disgusting. When you meet the prince on that night, you can actually decide whether or not the cock in her face turns her on or off. Whether she's doing this as a duty or because she's actually aroused. Even if you choose to have sex with him, you can have her wonder why she's doing it at all.

You're right. But I can agree with all of that only when it comes to first chapter. Later on her behaviour is inconsistent and pretty much determined in my opinion.

As for the scene where you go into the bathroom to talk to Courtney, actually that can be completely avoided... or at least her cock hidden, because its possible to turn off all tg/futa content in the game. I think that conversation happens regardless, but its established that she's able to hide her cock with the glamour, so I assume that's what the dev does. However, no sex happens in that bathroom. You go to her room to get a nightie on, then she follows soon after to get dressed for bed and offers to take the couch. You have to actually invite her into the bed with you. Then in the morning you have the choice of touching her or not. Still, I really like the game, so I'm gonna do the virtuous test run.

I think we talk about different scene. In mine she was fucked in bathroom and it was in a daylight. There was some talk, she went to bathroom and was fucked. I wouldn't turned off important for setting element just to avoid sex scenes which supposed to be a matter of choice. We should stop this offtop I guess. It's fine you like CC. It's probably one of the few games with such amount of futa content we have. 1 chapter was amazing and game had huge potential for me as well but I guess it's just not for me at this point. I'm not emoptional about it so I think I'm rather objective saying it has some serious (from my perspective) flaws. Game in my opinion probably changed due to tier's change and bigger playerbase which influenced development process forcing linearity. But game might be definitely enjoyable for fans so there is no point in arguing about it.
As for all corruption games chapter 1 could be given as an example of how it should be done.

 

[DarthSeduction]

You're right. But I can agree with all of that only when it comes to first chapter. Later on her behaviour is inconsistent and pretty much determined in my opinion.

I think we talk about different scene. In mine she was fucked in bathroom and it was in a daylight. There was some talk, she went to bathroom and was fucked. I wouldn't turned off important for setting element just to avoid sex scenes which supposed to be a matter of choice. We should stop this offtop I guess. It's fine you like CC. It's probably one of the few games with such amount of futa content we have. 1 chapter was amazing and game had huge potential for me as well but I guess it's just not for me at this point. I'm not emoptional about it so I think I'm rather objective saying it has some serious (from my perspective) flaws. Game in my opinion probably changed due to tier's change and bigger playerbase which influenced development process forcing linearity. But game might be definitely enjoyable for fans so there is no point in arguing about it.
As for all corruption games chapter 1 could be given as an example of how it should be done.

Ok, so I played it through virtuous and only had 3 sexual encounters that were forced, the lakeside rape, Calen, and because I slept at Aurora's I was facefucked by her stepdad when I failed a fitness check. I might have been able to avoid that one if I'd bought the exercise outfit and gone to the gym every day, or if I'd stayed at Courtney's. I'll find out later. Calen made me fuck him and Courtney wouldn't I assume because she and I had not relationship. However the moment he advances on your crotch you do have the option to protest on behalf of your virginity. He will still fuck you, but you had that choice. She literally says, she'll do anything else but that, before he fucks her pussy anyways.

Maybe you meant the scene where she comes into the bathroom in Verund. There it's still possible to turn her down, in fact I just did, one of the hardest things I've ever done.

So yeah, all your problems seem to have been solved by the dev apparently, because aside from that one scene with Calen it seems that all of the sexual encounters possible in chapters 2 and 3 are completely avoidable.

 

[IhaveNoPornAndIMustFap]

Ok, so I played it through virtuous and only had 3 sexual encounters that were forced, the lakeside rape, Calen, and because I slept at Aurora's I was facefucked by her stepdad when I failed a fitness check. I might have been able to avoid that one if I'd bought the exercise outfit and gone to the gym every day, or if I'd stayed at Courtney's. I'll find out later. Calen made me fuck him and Courtney wouldn't I assume because she and I had not relationship. However the moment he advances on your crotch you do have the option to protest on behalf of your virginity. He will still fuck you, but you had that choice. She literally says, she'll do anything else but that, before he fucks her pussy anyways.

Maybe you meant the scene where she comes into the bathroom in Verund. There it's still possible to turn her down, in fact I just did, one of the hardest things I've ever done.

So yeah, all your problems seem to have been solved by the dev apparently, because aside from that one scene with Calen it seems that all of the sexual encounters possible in chapters 2 and 3 are completely avoidable.

Aren't you able to date Courtney without her taking your V-card and thus you could still have it past Calen?

 

[DarthSeduction]

Aren't you able to date Courtney without her taking your V-card and thus you could still have it past Calen?

Not sure, I played it as faithful to Lily so I didn't date Courtney in this play... I will experiment in the future with other ways... Personally, as cute as Lily is, I prefer Courtney. So if either of them isn't ok with being in a polygamous relationship then it'll be the princess that I have to let go.

 

[IhaveNoPornAndIMustFap]

By the way, because someone mentioned Elenas Life, I'm playing that now. A 34 year old woman and mother of a college-aged girl (apparently) gets bullied by some 17 year old twirp. I mean, what writer writes this and goes "Yes, this is perfectly ok writing"

And no she doesn't have the excuse of having been in a coma for 25 years, her work experience is as a waitress, where presumably, she would get groped and flirted at constantly.

This game fits the trope to a tee

Update: Now the evil boss threatend to fire Elena after she asked for an advance. To get the advance, Elena had to... flash her tits. I mean seriously, the writer of this cannot possibly be older than 15. Dear 15 year olds: Please stop writing porn games.

 

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Elenas Life

...and with 329 Patrons and more than a 1000$ in support this one is another testament that the majority of players wishes to see more female protagonists that are a little slow upstairs to put it mildly...and why should one write a story that corrupts a intelligent woman...it's so much harder to do with little payoff while stupid works...again...dumb is easy....dumb works well...:tiredface: