Ren'Py Fashion Business [Ep.4 v6.00 Extra] [DecentMonkey]

[Joe Steel]

I really can't play games where is any kind of sexual content related to old or fat guys. It is completely repulsive to me and make me wanna puke. Same as some people can't play games with shemales inside or futas, scat ,urination, gore or whatever... Old and fat guys are my dealbreaker and I don't care about any other aspect of game.
I'm not saying don't put that content inside game, just don't make it mandatory to play and watch. I understand there are people who likes those kind of stuff and it's completely ok, but there are also people who are alergic on those stuff and that is also ok. Two solutions : 1 - to satisfy both and make optional content 2- pick up one group which will be satisfied and say goodbye to second with forced content. It's up to dev to decide if he wants game open to all kinds of customers or wants narrow game for specific audience. Both options have their pros and cons, I guess.

I can understand the feeling, but the "fat guy" is, probably, the principal antagonist of (at least part of) the story. He's doing what he can to break her. He's not a side character. It would be unrealistic to have the main plot "optional." It's also not reasonable to ask the author to re-render all the scenes with a new, non-obese character. I don't care for the looks of most of the men in the story, but accept that the looks that exist are the looks the author wanted. If you can't play the game, then that's too bad, but it is what it is at this point.

 

[Prokopije]

I can understand the feeling, but the "fat guy" is, probably, the principal antagonist of (at least part of) the story. He's doing what he can to break her. He's not a side character. It would be unrealistic to have the main plot "optional." It's also not reasonable to ask the author to re-render all the scenes with a new, non-obese character. I don't care for the looks of most of the men in the story, but accept that the looks that exist are the looks the author wanted. If you can't play the game, then that's too bad, but it is what it is at this point.

Who asked about re-rendering and replacing characters?
About main plot, I'm sure there will be few people who will try to corrupt MC, not just one. So it is possible to allow corruption by some of them and not all of them. At the end, lot of games have "purity route", so it is not uncommon that antagonist fails despite all his effort. But, as I said, it's up to dev to decide if he wants game for all tastes with optional content or to target specific audience with forced content. Whatever suits him best.

 

[ilovenudemods]

If you actually play this game through the backstory/intro section, the last thing you will want to see is Monica's "purity route". She is one of the most disgusting main characters I've ever seen, as well as one of the cutest, and seeing her get repeatedly wrecked will produce many, many spitefully thick loads.

 

[Firebless]

Who asked about re-rendering and replacing characters?
About main plot, I'm sure there will be few people who will try to corrupt MC, not just one. So it is possible to allow corruption by some of them and not all of them. At the end, lot of games have "purity route", so it is not uncommon that antagonist fails despite all his effort. But, as I said, it's up to dev to decide if he wants game for all tastes with optional content or to target specific audience with forced content. Whatever suits him best.

Agree on you that all games should have options to please more players and thus increase player base and possibly income. Most if not all games i have played on the subject of corruption has options to avoid some characters and even go full purity ending or something between. However the more options the game creator adds, the more time it will take to complete the game or advance the main story.

In this particular game, apparently the authors vision is one of humiliating the main character and teach her a lesson. In that regard, being forced to do despicable acts with either animals (ugh) or "ugly" people is a humiliating as it gets. Thus its a pinnacle of the main story and its purpose. He already gave the option to avoid the animals (that ranch) by going to ask help from fat guy. Probably he gives option to avoid the fat guy(gals) too, but its not probably what he will consider the normal route.

If the author will not offer options however, i think that having her escape all the ugliness will deviate from how the story has been slowly developing and make less sense.

 

[Prokopije]

If you actually play this game through the backstory/intro section, the last thing you will want to see is Monica's "purity route". She is one of the most disgusting main characters I've ever seen.

Can agree on some of those. But yet that doesen't mean I'm willing to submit her to fat or old guy. It's just...well as I said disgusting and repulsive. I guess there must be something which "works" for you in the same way as this for me, so you can understand how I feel about that.

 

[Prokopije]

However the more options the game creator adds, the more time it will take to complete the game or advance the main story.

In this particular game, apparently the authors vision is one of humiliating the main character and teach her a lesson. In that regard, being forced to do despicable acts with either animals (ugh) or "ugly" people is a humiliating as it gets.

Exactly that (about first part). That's why I said that both ways of developing have their pros and cons. Narrow game with fast developement but for smaller audience or wide game for large audience but with slower development.
Now about ugliness and humiliation There are also ugly people which are not fat or old. Also beautiful and young people can humiliate. Why it always has to be some old fart boss?! Give some variety. There is literaly a lot of possibilities. Make games in highschool. Posh rich bitch wanna be diva is going to be put back onto ground by her poor or ugly classmates which she despies. Born and raised as racist blonde white bitch goes to college where she'll be turned into fucktoy for gang of black guys...or whatever... It can't be that old fat bosses are only way to humiliate female MC.

 

[Ragnaroekr]

Exactly that (about first part). That's why I said that both ways of developing have their pros and cons. Narrow game with fast developement but for smaller audience or wide game for large audience but with slower development.
Now about ugliness and humiliation There are also ugly people which are not fat or old. Also beautiful and young people can humiliate. Why it always has to be some old fart boss?! Give some variety. There is literaly a lot of possibilities. Make games in highschool. Posh rich bitch wanna be diva is going to be put back onto ground by her poor or ugly classmates which she despies. Born and raised as racist blonde white bitch goes to college where she'll be turned into fucktoy for gang of black guys...or whatever... It can't be that old fat bosses are only way to humiliate female MC.

Totally agree!

 

[Firebless]

Exactly that (about first part). That's why I said that both ways of developing have their pros and cons. Narrow game with fast developement but for smaller audience or wide game for large audience but with slower development.
Now about ugliness and humiliation There are also ugly people which are not fat or old. Also beautiful and young people can humiliate. Why it always has to be some old fart boss?! Give some variety. There is literaly a lot of possibilities. Make games in highschool. Posh rich bitch wanna be diva is going to be put back onto ground by her poor or ugly classmates which she despies. Born and raised as racist blonde white bitch goes to college where she'll be turned into fucktoy for gang of black guys...or whatever... It can't be that old fat bosses are only way to humiliate female MC.

Well, so far in the game the only sex scene has been with a very handsome guy. And the scariest monster happens to be another very good looking guy too. The only people trying to help her has been those fat uglies. Maybe this game is about teaching people a lesson about judging a person for her looks.

 

[ilovenudemods]

Can agree on some of those. But yet that doesen't mean I'm willing to submit her to fat or old guy. It's just...well as I said disgusting and repulsive. I guess there must be something which "works" for you in the same way as this for me, so you can understand how I feel about that.

I'm just curious if you've even tried the game yet. Because like Firebless said above, the only interactions with the fat guy from the pictures have been innocent. Even when he has her at the footheels, all he asks her to do is help him with his appearance. He doesn't even attempt a sexual act with her, even though he could have.

We get that you hate fat people, you've made that very clear. I personally avoid games with incest themes because I find those to be, as you put it, repulsive. But this is also just a game with a strong humiliation theme and some of the characters are in fact, fat. Maybe this one just isn't for you? Could be. Not every game has to cover every kink and preference of every single person who plays it. If you're unable to remove yourself a bit from your personal preferences and just take the story as it is, you should probably only check out the completed games list so you can hone in on your very specific preferences.

 

[Prokopije]

I'm just curious if you've even tried the game yet. Because like Firebless said above, the only interactions with the fat guy from the pictures have been innocent. Even when he has her at the footheels, all he asks her to do is help him with his appearance. He doesn't even attempt a sexual act with her, even though he could have.

We get that you hate fat people, you've made that very clear. I personally avoid games with incest themes because I find those to be, as you put it, repulsive. But this is also just a game with a strong humiliation theme and some of the characters are in fact, fat. Maybe this one just isn't for you? Could be. Not every game has to cover every kink and preference of every single person who plays it. If you're unable to remove yourself a bit from your personal preferences and just take the story as it is, you should probably only check out the completed games list so you can hone in on your very specific preferences.

I don't hate fat people. I just don't want to watch them while having sex.
About this last part I completely agree. If this game is for me - future will tell. For now it is. If it continues in same fashion than it will continue to be. If it goes in future with forced sexual content related to that or any other fat or old male than it will not be, and I'll delete it from hdd, unwatch thread and say goodbye. It would not be first time and I'm pretty sure it will not (if it happens) be last time. I'd be reluctant to see that happens, but my gosh, it is what it is.
For example, there are few games which I like but they had one or two scenes which I can't tolerate, and I'm not lazy, I dismantle it, remove unliked scene from game, rewrite few dialogues if needed, put it back together and continue to play homemade moded version.
As you mentioned incest, for example from that kink(which I also don't like, but i can tolerate) I can remove myself and not be happy but still be able to continue with gameplay. And few other kinks, but this one is not one of those. It's complete dealbreaker.

 

[baka]

just finished it. not bad, theres potentials. even if she's a total bitch, i felt sorry for her.
i dont like the speed of skip-text, should go faster.

 

[LoganJ]

I don't hate fat people. I just don't want to watch them while having sex.
About this last part I completely agree. If this game is for me - future will tell. For now it is. If it continues in same fashion than it will continue to be. If it goes in future with forced sexual content related to that or any other fat or old male than it will not be, and I'll delete it from hdd, unwatch thread and say goodbye. It would not be first time and I'm pretty sure it will not (if it happens) be last time. I'd be reluctant to see that happens, but my gosh, it is what it is.
For example, there are few games which I like but they had one or two scenes which I can't tolerate, and I'm not lazy, I dismantle it, remove unliked scene from game, rewrite few dialogues if needed, put it back together and continue to play homemade moded version.
As you mentioned incest, for example from that kink(which I also don't like, but i can tolerate) I can remove myself and not be happy but still be able to continue with gameplay. And few other kinks, but this one is not one of those. It's complete dealbreaker.

Just from reading all your comments and complaints here, I get the impression that you seem to have something in common with Monica (the MC of the game). Maybe in 20 years, you are such an ugly fat old guy - does that mean that you then don't want to have sex anymore??? Even such guys can have a nice personality and be lovable. If they don't, they are possibly victims of their "Monicas" in earlier life...

 

[baka]

i enjoy diversity.
we also have a lot of games with young looking dudes, why always complain when we get some older or obese dude?
like you do when, NTR but not Incest. or Petite but not Milfs. always complaining when its not what "YOU" like.
also, we don't know yet if there will be any sex with the obese dude, he maybe just a character and thats it. at this moment theres a bigger chance of underage sex (the one that most of you like, young teens) then the older fat dude. so stop complaining its starting to get annoying.

 

[Prokopije]

Just from reading all your comments and complaints here, I get the impression that you seem to have something in common with Monica (the MC of the game). Maybe in 20 years, you are such an ugly fat old guy - does that mean that you then don't want to have sex anymore??? Even such guys can have a nice personality and be lovable. If they don't, they are possibly victims of their "Monicas" in earlier life...

I'm not saying that he's bad by default And I'm not saying that fat guys shouldn't have sex at all. Just don't make it mandatory for all players to watch and play that part, because for some of us it is not...well ,desirable. I don't mind if they have sex or being loved or whatever as long as it is far away from my eyes.
Nice and loveable personality somehow don't work together with corruption porn games, but who knows maybe this one will be an exception. Maybe this guy will indeed be some nice, decent person who will try to "uncorrupt" MC and prevent her from going on bad ways. Possibilities are endless, bordered only by deepness of imagination. It could even open space for (for those who are interested in those kind of stuff, of course) pure love route with nice, decent person in sea of bad and undecent people. But somehow I doubt that
About insinuations for my future...Who knows? It is unlikely because of my life style and genetics, but again who knows. And people also evolve and change their minds, attitudes etc as years advance, even about more important things than just sexual kinks. So, despite my own physical evolution maybe I"ll have different views about this particular kink(or some another) in few years or decades...who knows, it's charm of the future because we don't know what it brings and how we will look(physicaly and mentaly) in years to come... But at this moment it is as it is.

 

[Firebless]

I cant get enough fat guys having their way with a beautiful female protagonist. Please dont spoil my pitiful kink. Theres way more games of handsome guys having sex. I wish i was like you and didnt have a thing for fat/old/ugly guys, that would mean i would have many more games to play.

However i think we going to get options here so all be happy in this one game.

 

[Prokopije]

I cant get enough fat guys having their way with a beautiful female protagonist. Please dont spoil my pitiful kink. Theres way more games of handsome guys having sex. I wish i was like you and didnt have a thing for fat/old/ugly guys, that would mean i would have many more games to play.

However i think we going to get options here so all be happy in this one game.

Yes, let's hope for options to "accept" "Refuse" sex ways and developements it would indeed made all happy. Go and try Anna exciting affection, Katie's Corruption, Vis Major, and there is few more but I forgot names, those are all games I abandoned because of lot unavoidable content with fat or old guys. It could suits you.
EDIT Lida's adventure , Elena's Life.

 

[Firebless]

Yes, let's hope for options to "accept" "Refuse" sex ways and developements it would indeed made all happy. Go and try Anna exciting affection, Katie's Corruption, Vis Major, and there is few more but I forgot names, those are all games I abandoned because of lot unavoidable content with fat or old guys. It could suits you.
EDIT Lida's adventure , Elena's Life.

Lets hope so! And thanks for the recommendations, those are indeed games i love and played multiple times. But you could totally avoid having sex with the fat guys in most if not all those games. Can avoid in Anna, Elena and Katies. Havent got far in Lidas though, that game is on and off for me never get far.

 

[Lycan73]

There is one rape scene on Monica, at the end.
In the future, Monica will go through all the circles of hell.
It will begin with episode 2

I hope that includes becoming a cheap streetwalker.

 

[kajenzo]

LOL WTF? She actually got hit by the car when I walked outside, now she's dead. But I accidentally saved my game before that now I can't continue the game.

Me too now looking for a save to avoid those 14 non active days in prison... I can't fucking believe nothing happens to you in prison...

 

[Ragnaroekr]

You can take any save from the save files list I posted before in this thread.

I think you're really doing a great job Decent Monkey. First Episode is a prologue, though in 4 hours there are too few H-scenes, ok. But it's really awesome. I think it's totally unessecary to rework Ep1, go on with Ep2. The waiting time for really new content wich pushes the story will take too long instead.